Which version of ID3 tags does iTunes 9 use?

Hi, which version of ID3 tags does iTunes 9 use?

I'm with you on the multiple tags issue. I'd just assumed if iTunes rips with v2.2 and then you get it to convert to v2.3 the file would have just the one tag. Otherwise why not call the feature *Add v2.3 tag?* Anyway there I go again expecting logic when I should know better.
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