Which wrappers support meta data saving?

Hello all -
I am getting closer to creating a workflow that works for all my cameras.  The last challenge I am having is trying to decide what to do with my mp4(gopro created) that Prelude doesn't like and can't add meta data to. Mainly I want to add Production names, etc to the files but then I want to add comments and markers too as the tool is meant to be used.
Qs
1 - is there any way to use the mp4s and get the ecosystem to save such data in xmp files?
2 - what are others doing in this case? I'd transcode(nothe topic I know) but I decide what equivalent codec to use from the Quicktime wrapper list or other(?) that can also store meta data. 
3 - Anyone know of a list of wrappers that do support meta data???
thanks
Rich

Hi Michael.
Ah, cool. Thanks for the info. I'll try the Match Source route too. Yesterday I took a few samples (MTS from another camera) through the ingest process and cam up with a set of sample sizes. Interesting range shift in each when viewing in QuickTime(I know, not always the best). I need to pull them up in Premiere side by site and see if they read any differently.
Anyway, I did set up some GoPro specific codecs in AME and thus had then in PL for my tests. See attached for size comparisons. The ones marked with GPS are from GoPro studio with Med and Low tests run. The AME CF's are with Cineform's 100% and 50% quality.
Now I am very curious what the Match source will do. I'll be it will be lower size, by a lot, and theoretically retain the vast majority of the quality of the original.  I guess the benefit of going with the AME CF mode is that it really does move towards an intermediate editing format right? That the other thing I was considering shooting for, but my first goal was to at least get consistent logging for all my camera's base formats[ MTS(AVCH.264), Mov(H.264), and MP4(I guess H.264)]
I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks for both of your replies!
Rich
PS- the nubers at the end of each are the factors of increase in size freme the source

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    AnnaK wrote:
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    Console Log Message:
    Version:1.0 StartHTML:0000000167 EndHTML:0000002013 StartFragment:0000000451 EndFragment:0000001997        
    Process:         Adobe Photoshop CS3 [306]
    Path:            /Applications/Adobe Photoshop CS3/Adobe Photoshop CS3.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Photoshop CS3
    Identifier:      com.adobe.Photoshop
    Version:         10.0 (10.0x20070321 [20070321.m.1480 2007/03/21:16:39:00 cutoff; m branch]) (10.0)
    Code Type:       X86 (Native)
    Parent Process:  launchd [105]
    Interval Since Last Report: 27167 sec
    Crashes Since Last Report:           2
    Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 22482 sec
    Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   2
    Date/Time:       2012-06-13 12:38:57.741 +0100
    OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
    Report Version:  6
    Anonymous UUID: 934B74CE-A232-4279-83E3-64E67008480C
    Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
    Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
    Crashed Thread:  0

    I can confirm that this is a user preference problem, as there is no problem on a newly created user account. However, deleting the 'obvious' preference files from ~/Library/Preferences (Adobe and Photoshop prefs and plists) has had no effect.
    I have moved ALL preference files from ~/Library/Preferences, restarted and relaunched Photoshop. This has resolved the original Photoshop issue. I now have to reapply all of the other user preferences for all other applications/devices. (Resolving the original issue has probably created more work, but at least we can use Photoshop!)
    It would be nice to hear if anyone has any idea which preference file may of caused the issue.
    Thanks.

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