Why is DPM 2012 R2 splitting this Co-located Protection Group Set across three different tapes?

I have 10 protection groups that ran Saturday night.  I have put information about them in the following table:
I extracted the data in the table using Get-DPMProtectionGroup CmdLet and the job information from the Monitoring page of the DPM admin console.  As you can see from the tape barcode, DPM wrote the first four PGs to one tape, then started a second
tape, and finally failed when starting a third because it had run out of free tapes.
All of the protection groups are assigned to the same "Co-Located Protection Group Set" in the "Tape Optimization Setup" dialog box.
Prior to the jobs running, I painstakingly ensured that each of the Protection Group's "Select Long-Term Goals" and "Select Library and Tape Details" screens are identical as follows:
Prior to running the jobs I had already disabled autoclean on the tape library.
I have checked to see if the tape drive is reporting IO error 0x8007045D using the method described in this blog post:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/dpm/archive/2012/05/14/things-you-can-do-to-help-data-protection-manager-utilize-your-tapes-full-capacity.aspx
There seems to be no mention of 0x8007045D or -2147023779 in any of the MSDPM*.Errlog files.
These are LTO6 tapes with a capacity of 2.5 TB each.  The total data for all the jobs put together is less than 300GB.
Why is DPM 2012 R2 splitting these protection groups across three different tapes? 
What else should I check for that might cause DPM to start a new tape?

Hi Mike,
Thanks for taking a look at the logs.  I just wanted to point out that there were actually two changes made just before collocation succeeded:
Write Period and Expiry Tolerance were increase
Full Verbose logging was enabled
This technet article states that Full Verbose logging affects performance.  If the problem with collocation is caused by a race condition then it is
possible that enabling logging actually caused collocation to succeed. At this point there doesn’t seem to be any evidence pointing to which of the two changes resulted in collocation succeeding.
I propose I run the following tests to differentiate the two:
Test #1 - Collocation Confirmation
Repeat last weekend's test to confirm that successful collocation wasn't an anomaly.  Configuration:
full verbose logging: Enabled
Expiry Tolerance: 1 year
Write Period: 1 year
Test #2 - Logging Only
Test to see whether enabling Full Verbose logging enabled collocation to succeed.  Configuration:
full verbose logging: Enabled
Expiry Tolerance: 7 days
Write Period: 6 day
Thanks for your help,
Alex

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      </EventData>
    </Event>
    Things I have tried:
    Changing username format as detailed here:
    http://blogs.technet.com/b/dpm/archive/2012/01/30/fix-the-dpm-console-crashes-and-logs-event-id-945-when-making-any-changes.aspx
    Reinstalling DPM 2012 SP1

    We eventually got this resolved through Microsoft support.
    The issue for us was entering the AD domain as the FQDN on install. Apparently DPM doesn't work if it is authenticating with FQDN\username.
    The fix is to change the following registry setting:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Microsoft Data Protection Manager\Setup\SchedulerJobOwnerName
    To domain\username rather than domain.local\user (or [email protected], which also doesn't work). Alternatively, when you install DPM just put the netbios AD domain name rather than the FQDN.

  • Is this a bug with grouping sets?

    Version is Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.2.0.3.0 - 64bit Production
    SQL> with data as
      2  (select rownum r, 'X' x, 1 n from dual connect by rownum <= 10)
      3  select x
      4       , sum(n) s
      5       , (select sum(1) from dual where dummy = x) t
      6  from data
      7  group by grouping sets (x, ())
      8  /
    X          S          T
    X         10          1
              10
    SQL>  Shouldn't the superaggregate row have a 1 in the T column?

    Here's your QUERY with the addition of the GROUPING() function:
    SQL> WITH data AS
      2  (
      3     SELECT rownum r
      4          , 'X'    x
      5          , 1      n
      6     FROM   dual
      7     CONNECT BY rownum <= 10
      8  )
      9  SELECT GROUPING(x)
    10       , x
    11       , sum(n) s
    12       , (SELECT sum(1) FROM dual WHERE dummy = x) t
    13  FROM   data
    14  GROUP BY GROUPING SETS (x, ())
    15  ;
    GROUPING(X) X          S          T
              0 X         10          1
              1           10In this case the value for X is null because it's a subtotal row. If you look at the execution plan for this statement:
    PLAN_TABLE_OUTPUT
    SQL_ID  gumphwvgumqc4, child number 0
    WITH data AS (  SELECT rownum r       , 'X'    x       , 1      n  FROM
      dual  CONNECT BY rownum <= 10 ) SELECT /*+gather_plan_statistics*/ x
        , sum(n) s      , (SELECT sum(1) FROM dual WHERE dummy = x) t FROM
    data GROUP BY GROUPING SETS (x, ())
    Plan hash value: 1718326399
    | Id  | Operation                       | Name | Starts | E-Rows | A-Rows |   A-Time   | Buffers |  OMem |  1Mem | Used-Mem |
    |   0 | SELECT STATEMENT                |      |      1 |        |      2 |00:00:00.01 |       0 |    |  |          |
    |   1 |  SORT AGGREGATE                 |      |      2 |      1 |      2 |00:00:00.01 |       4 |    |  |          |
    |*  2 |   TABLE ACCESS FULL             | DUAL |      2 |      1 |      1 |00:00:00.01 |       4 |    |  |          |
    |   3 |  SORT GROUP BY ROLLUP           |      |      1 |      1 |      2 |00:00:00.01 |       0 |  2048 |  2048 | 2048  (0)|
    |   4 |   VIEW                          |      |      1 |      1 |     10 |00:00:00.01 |       0 |    |  |          |
    |   5 |    COUNT                        |      |      1 |        |     10 |00:00:00.01 |       0 |    |  |          |
    |   6 |     CONNECT BY WITHOUT FILTERING|      |      1 |        |     10 |00:00:00.01 |       0 |    |  |          |
    |   7 |      FAST DUAL                  |      |      1 |      1 |      1 |00:00:00.01 |       0 |    |  |          |
    Predicate Information (identified by operation id):
       2 - filter("DUMMY"=:B1)The value for X is being bound to the subquery. If X is null this won't return any rows (I'm sure you knew that :) ). I would say this is expected albeit confusing behavior. You get the same results if you use CUBE or ROLLUP as well.

  • HT1975 Why does the location on my iphone show three different places when I'm not even there?

    When I use the iphone app find myiphone- why does it sometimes show 3 different addresses and streets when locating the phone.

    Because GPS is not perfect, especially when the device is inside a building.

  • An unexpected error occurred while the job was running. (ID 104 Details: The parameter is incorrect (0x80070057)) After DPM 2012 SP1 to R2 Upgrade

    Hi,
    We have upgraded DPM 2012 SP1 to DPM 2012 R2 and OS is Windows 2012 standard.
    Now in File Protection Group, we receive error
    "An unexpected error occurred while the job was running. (ID 104 Details: The parameter is incorrect (0x80070057))".
    This happens to only one Drive(X: Drive) of the PG server, other drive(Z: Drive) backup is working fine.
    We tried,
    Deleted entire protection group and recreated ,
    Ran consistency job 2 to 3 times.
    Ran Synchronize with consistency check.
    But every time It failed. Before upgrade it was working fine.
    Thanks

    Hi
    I would suggest opening a new case with MS to allow the DPM team to further look into the issue. Also the DPM 2012 R2 RollUp which addresses the (0x80070057)
    issue is Rollup 1 and the private will not be needed after applying Rollup 1. The Roll up is found here
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2904687/en-us
    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your
    question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Dwayne Jackson II. [MSFT] This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights."

  • DPM 2012 R2 CU4 protecting SQL 2014 AlwaysOn AG with Failover Cluster vs. DR location

    Hello!
    We have a problem protecting any Database of SQL 2014 AlwaysOn Availability Group with SQL Failover Cluster Instance when moved to DR location. Everything is protected using DPM 2012 R2 CU4 from Primary location.
    FACTS
    - all servers are Windows Server 2012 R2
    - all servers are Virtual (except Hyper-V hosts obviously:)
    - that means virtualization is based on Windows Server 2012 R2 Hyper-V
    - all clusters (SQL, Exchange,...) are Guest Clusters on Hyper-V
    - SQL 2014
    - DPM 2012 R2 CU4
    - Primary and DR location 
    SETUP
    SQL
    - Primary location: SQL 2014 Guest Cluster with SQL Failover Cluster Instance using Shared VHDX disks
    - DR location: SQL 2014 Standalone using VHDX disks
    - AlwaysOn Availability Group expands between the primary and DR location.
    DPM
    - Primary location: DPM 2012 R2 CU4
    - DPM 2012 R2 CU4 Agents installed on every possible SQL 2014 Server.
    SCENARIO
    - DPM is backing up all the SQL Databases normally as long as they exist on any SQL Cluster Node on Primary location.
    - As soon as any Database is moved to DR location, that Database is not backed up anymore with the following error.
    DPM ERROR
    Starting synchronization on SqlServerName\DatabaseName failed:
    Error 104: An unexpected error occurred while the job was running.
    Error details: The system cannot find the path specified (0x80070003)
    Recommended action: Retry the operation.
    TROUBLESHOOTING
    - Tried to modify SQL Protection Group in DPM Server while Database was active on DR location
    > error enumerating volumes or drives D:\, E:\, F:\ (I don't have exact error atm)
    > this looks like DPM is not aware that DPM is active on DR location to me
    - Checked Technet, blogs and forums; no useful information
    QUESTION
    Is this expected or by-design behavior? Is this a bug? I am aware there were quite some issues backing up AG's from DPM 2012 SP1 ans SQL 2012 on.
    Does anybody have a lab of that kind to try it out?
    Thank you!
    Best Regards,
    Damjan Grimšič
    Lpd

    OK. The issue has been resolved. Issue was related to possible Disks Owners in Failover Cluster Manager Console for SQL Cluster.
    In Primary's site SQL Cluster Failover Manager Console / Storage / Disks.
    SQL Server(s) from Secondary location need(s) to be unchecked as Possible owner(s) in Advanced Policies for all relevant Volumes.
    Lpd

  • DPM 2012 R2 unable to connect to Database after failed Update Rollup 4 Installation

    We have a DPM 2012 R2 Server with SQL Server 2012 installed locally.
    We tried to install Rollup 4 for DPM 2012 R2 (KB3009516) using Windows Update
    and it failed with error code 0x80070643. Now when we open the DPM Console
    it is totally empty (no Protection Groups, Servers, Disks, just like a fresh install).
    In the eventlog we get a lot of Errors and warnings:
    Event 941 (MSDPM)
    Unable to connect to the DPM database.  Make sure that SQL Server is running and that it is configured correctly.
    Cannot open database "DPMDB" requested by the login. The login failed.
    Event 4209 (MSDPM)
    The description for Event ID 4209 from source MSDPM cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.
    If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.
    The following information was included with the event:
    DPM Writer encountered an internal error.  Please restart the DPM Writer service, and then try the backup operation again. For additional troubleshooting information, review the application event log and the DPM Troubleshooting Guide.
    Event 107 (Report Server Windows Service (MSSQLSERVER)
    Report Server Windows Service (MSSQLSERVER) cannot connect to the report server database.
    Event 274 (SQLISService110)
    Microsoft SSIS Service:
    Registry setting specifying configuration file does not exist.
    Attempting to load default config file.
    Then there are some Errors/warnings from SQLSERVERAGENT about failed scheduled Jobs.
    I think the failed Installation changed some database Settings, so that now the DPM Console
    cant access the database anymore.
    I would be happy if someone can help me getting this Server working again!

    Our biggest problem is, that the DPM is not working any more. So there is no chance to backup the SQL Server via DPM.
    I think the main problem is that DPM have no access to the database. Every time I start the DPM Application, I get an error "verify that the DPM service is running on this computer". In the eventlog are many errors that the msdpm service was unable
    to connect to DPM Database. Another "information" is that the user 'nt authority\system' failed to open the database of dpm.
    We've tried to reinstall the DPM but its still the same problem. I suppose that is a corrupt database.
    Tomorrow I try to restore the database and hope it will be the solution of our problem.

  • DPM 2012 R2 - Replica is inconsistent (ID 104 Details: The parameter is incorrect (0x80070057))

    Since implementing DPM 2012 R2, we have been having issues with several replicas in different protection groups. We are running version 4.2.1254.0. We have been unable to backup, as we are receiving the following error when running a consistency check:
    An unexpected error occurred while the job was running. (ID 104 Details: The parameter is incorrect (0x80070057))
    Any idea how to get this fixed?

    104
    An unexpected error occurred while the job was running.
    This error can appear if you are trying to protect a SQL Server database that has files on a remote share. This is not supported by DPM.
    Please check below DPM error codes list for reference.
    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/24613.system-center-data-protection-manager-error-codes.aspx

  • Does DPM 2012 R2 with rollup 2 support any version of Windows Server 2003/2008 on Hyper-V?

    We have Hyper-V Hosts with VMs which include Windows 2003/2003R2/2008/2008R2.
    If I we upgrade to DPM 2012 R2 Update Rollup 2, will we be able to backup all those VMs now?   The support matrix (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj860400.aspx)
    still seems to show what is supported by the initial release of DPM 2012 R2, not an updated version for the rollup.
    We currently use DPM 2012 SP1 and Hyper-V hosts using Server 2012.

    Hi,
    This is kind of a loaded question because DPM 2012 R2 never dropped support for protecting Windows 2003/2008 using host level backup.
    However, the support matrix will be updated shortly to include the added support for protecting workloads on Windows 2003 / 2008 using DPM 2012 R2 UR2.
    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT]
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  • DPM 2012 R2 Unable to create protection groups after Cluster Migration

    Hi Team
    we have an issue relating to DPM 2012 R2. In our environment we have a Hyper-V Cluster and we recently did a Cluster Migration since Hyper-V Cluster was upgraded to Windows Server 2012 R2.
    Before the upgrade, Windows Server 2008 R2 Cluster was protected by DPM Environment. After we upgraded we are unable to Create new protection Groups existing the new cluster and when we select VMs it's not showing up any members.
    Please let us know how we can solve this issue since the Cluster Nodes and the Cluster Name is different from previous Cluster, we were expecting that DPM would allow us to create new Protection Groups while preserving old protection groups for recovery later
    if needed. 

    Hi,
    you need to stop the Protection of the old HyperV Datasources
    Clear the Cache of the Protectiongroup,
    and read the new VM to Protectiongroup
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  • DPM 2012 R2, Scale-out and secondary replicas

    Hi all,
    TechNet says scale-out protection for VMs and DPM chaining isn't supported - is this still the case for 2012 R2?
    Our scenario: We have numerous clusters with a ~dozen Hyper-V (2012/2012R2) nodes each, and lots of running VMs. We need to use DPM scale-out to have multiple DPM servers protect the
    clusters, but also need off-site replicas for the data sources.
    Cheers

    Hi,
    There is no change in DPM 2012 R2 with respect to secondary protection for scale out Hyper-v.  Consider backing up to Azure for offsite solution.
    Backing Up DPM using Windows Azure Backup
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj728752.aspx
    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT]
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  • Installing DPM 2012 SP1 onto Server 2012 R2 (Compatible / Supported)?

    Hi,
    Can DPM 2012 SP1 be installed onto Server 2012 R2? i.e. is it compatible and also is it supported by Microsoft?
    If so are there any official documents or links provided by Microsoft for this installation scenario?
    I would have installed DPM 2012 R2 onto Server 2012 R2 but this is not possible due to DPM 2012 R2 not supporting Server 2008 protected servers!
    Thanks,
    Microsoft Partner

    Hi,
    DPM 2012 SP1 is not supported running on Windows server 2012 R2.
    System requirements for System Center 2012 SP1 - DPM
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj651645.aspx
    Can you tell me how many Windows 2008 servers you need to protect and what is preventing you from upgrading them to Windows 2008 R2 ?
    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT]
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  • Backup to tape failed in DPM 2012

    I am new to DPM.
    We have configured a protection group for short term goal with 7 days retention range, Synchronization frequency 6 hours. And recovery points are based on synchronization (means 4 Recovery points per day and DPM will have 28 valid restore points after a
    week...!!??). In long term goals we have configured 2 recovery goals to tape ...  1 recovery point per week on saturday (retention 4 weeks) and 1 recovery point per month (on day 1 with retention range of 1 month).
    Now Im getting PG status "backup to Tape failed" I want to know the process how DPM will check and verify recovery points on disk before writing them to tape.
    Based on my protection group settings, there should be 4 recovery points on disk everyday. but there is something different result...see the below in reply.
    My queries are:
    1) On Saturday weekly tape job, does it require DPM to have valid 28 Recovery points?? What happen if any RP missing.
    2) Due to some issues, if weekely tape backup failed on saturday. Can we resume it on monday,tuesday..with corrective actions??
    3) the DPM process of verifying disk based recovery points before writing them to tape.

    Hi,
    <New questions Snip<
    Q1) For file/volume protection, synchronization is not RP. We have to configure RP creation time manually.
    A1)  Correct, file synchronizations are not recoverable, only "recovery points" are recoverable.
    Q2) For application's (SQL,EXCH,SHAREPOINT) recovery points each synchronization job will create a RP as per synchronization frequency. 
    A2)  Yes, for applications like SQL and Exchange that support incremental backups, then incremental synchronizations are recoverable.
    Q3) If a tape backup is getting failed due to invalid RP on disk, I am creating a manual RP with Express full backup(for databases) and a RP with Incremental(for file/volume share), then resuming tape backup. Is it correct way to do this?
    A3) Yes, A manual Express full for application data or a manual recover point with synchronization for file / share data and that should allow you to manually create a new tape based backup from the alert.
    Q4)How to enable the verify option to check the integrity of the tape backup?
    A4) Simply modify the PG that has tape based protection and while on the "Select Library and tape Details" page, select the option "check backup for data integrity (time consuming operation)". 
    Q5) And what is Co-Location..!!
    A5) Tape co-location allows data from different protection groups to be written to the same tape.  You need to make a tape protection group set using the "Optimize usage" feature under the management - Libraries page of the DPM console.
    See the following TechNet pages.
    Tape Optimization Setup - Create-Modify Protection Group Set
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj628037.aspx
    Tape Optimization Setup - Advanced Options
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj628016.aspx
    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT]
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  • Moving Protection Groups (With replica/recovery volumes) to Another DPM.

    I am checking and find there's a way to create manual replica and copy paste old replica data on new dpm server and then Sync it. Is there any way to copy recovery point volume as well to another DPM server?
    I have stand up second DPM server and want to move some protection groups from DPM1 to DPM2 as DPM1 is overloaded. What I want to move some protection groups (Along with replica and recovery point volume) to DPM2 so that I can restore 30 days recovery points
    as well from DPM2.
    Please advice me, is it possible or not.

    Hi,
    That is not possible.  Recovery points are VSS snapshots of the replica volume, and cannot be copied.  You can stop protection on DPM1 and retain the replica for recoveries.  On DPM2 - re-protect the data from scratch. 
    Please remember to click “Mark as Answer” on the post that helps you, and to click “Unmark as Answer” if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread. Regards, Mike J. [MSFT]
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  • Surely It cannot be this hard! DPM 2012 R2 with Update rollup 2

    I am close to giving up!
    New to DPM but very experienced with networking/servers.
    I installed DPM 2012 R2 and then installed rollup 2
    I launch the DPM console, add some storage and then go to install the agent on a server - it fails
    I get the standard message. When I check on the server I tried to install to I can see that the dpm 2012 r2 agent coordinator service was installed and running and listening on port 5719 but there is no DPMRA service.
    So I perform a manual installation using the correct version from Rollup 2 on the server to be protected. This goes OK and I return to the DPM server to add the protected server. Made sure services were running on both servers, checkerd RPC, WMI, DCOM settings
    and all seems OK but when I try to add the protected server from the DPM console using the attach agent option it fails with error 370.
    Followed the top 20 suggestions, configured firewall for all ports on both servers. Tried turning the firewall off and still will not install.
    I have also tried using a Hyper-V server, a physical server and none will work which tends to point to an issue with the DPM server.
    The thing that puzzles me is that after I perform a manual agent installation on the protected server this seems to knock out the dpm 2012 r2 agent coordinator service which is no longer listed under services wheras DPMRA is running. I expected both services
    to be installed and running.
    When I perform a NETSTAT -a after installing the remote agent I can see port 5718 is listening but not port 5719
    If I go back a step and try a dpm 2012 r2 agent coordinator install via DPM console (as part of adding the protected server) it does install dpm 2012 r2 agent coordinator and it listens on port 5719 but the DPMRA agent software is not installed.
    I have tried deinstalling both the DPM agent software on the protected server and have even reinstalled DPM 2012 R2 with Rollup 2 with no change
    I have verified communications between the servers. Checked the DPM server is in the relevant groups. Am at a complete loss on what to do next - it should not be this hard.
    Can someone confirm to me that they expect both the dpm 2012 r2 agent coordinator service running on 5719 and the DPMRA service to be running on 5718 on the protected server which is what I assume but this
    is not happening!
    DPM server is a physical box running Server 2012. Protected server is a Physical box running Server 2012 R2. I have also tried with a physical server 2008R2 with the same results. I am not running Server 2003
    prd

    After 3 long days trying everything I could think of and following all of the excellent guidance out there ( thanks guys) I have a workaround.
    The answer was to make the dpm server computer account a member of the domain admins group.
    After I restarted the DPM server I saw that although the protected server account was still in error - the error message changed from 270 to 316.
    So I then add the protected server computer account to the domain admins group
    After I restarted the computers I could see the magic OK in the status of the DPM console.
    As an experiment I removed the protected servers computer account from domain admins and restarted the server. After the restart DPM could no longer communicate with error 316 again.
    So I tried adding the DPM server computer account to the protected servers local administrators group but this did not work.
    Deeply unhappy with making a computer account a member of domain admin group but it works.
    The question is why? There is obviously a security permissions issue that does not affect domain admins.
    I am running this on freshly built servers on a simple, single domain.
    Microsoft you need to look into this.
    prd

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