WiebeTech Sata Dock V4

Anyone using the WiebeTech Sata Dock v4?
http://www.wiebetech.com/products/satadock.php
I was researching a swapable external enclosure when I came across this unit and am seeking input from more technically hardware savvy peeps.
Aside from quick swapability, what benefits/problems would be associated with connecting/using a 'bare' external harddrive?...like is it gonna be bouncing around and doing the jimmy-shake...stuff like that?
May seem like an ig'nant question...just seems too good to be true...
Knowing WiebeTech as very reputable, I guess I simply don't get that having a drive sitting open like that is a good thing...am I mistaken?
Thanks much,
Kevan

I haven't used the SATA dock, but I have used their ComboDock (800 FW & USB 2). It has worked very well. I personally would not hesistate to purchase another product from WiebeTech.
I also have a couple of these... use for archive not capture/scratch. I don't believe they are SATA.
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