WLC 5760 and 802.11r/CCKM support

Experts;
I have a couple of 5760 controllers running as MC/MA and I am planning to enable Layer 3 roaming between the two 5760 MC/MA controllers. On a 5508 controller running Air-IOS there is an option, "fast transition", for devices that support 802.11r, my understanding if a device doesn't support 802.11r "fast transition" should not be checked. 
I like to know if there is a similar command or option for 802.11r support on a 5760 controller and if the only configuration option to establish mobility between the 5760 controllers is that both controllers need to be in the same mobility group.
Thanks;
Juan

Hi Juan,
my understanding if a device doesn't support 802.11r "fast transition" should not be checked
This is because certain clients that does not support 802.11r (like Mac OSX) won't like when SSID advertising 802.1X & 802.r FT (802.11r mixed mode) on the same SSID. Therefore they will not associate to that SSID. See this post as it listed 802.11r supported & unsupported devices/OS.
https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12314591/8021r-and-fast-roaming
You need to have IOS-XE 3.6 onward to support 802.11r mix mode. (7.6 or 8.0 for AireOS codes)
Regarding config you will find that options (enabling & Over the DS tick box) under SSID  configuration (refer link provided by Daniel). If you want to go more into detail how these different options work please read below, I have used 3850 in these post, but config should be same for a 5760.
1. http://mrncciew.com/2014/09/06/cwsp-802-11r-ft-association/
2. http://mrncciew.com/2014/09/08/cwsp-802-11r-over-the-ds-ft/
3. http://mrncciew.com/2014/09/07/cwsp-802-11r-over-the-air-ft/
In your case both 5760 should be in same mobility group in order to MDID to be same which is required for 802.11r fast roaming.
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HTH
Rasika

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    *DHCP Proxy Task: Apr 30 11:44:53.755: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   chaddr: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f
    *DHCP Proxy Task: Apr 30 11:44:53.755: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   ciaddr: 0.0.0.0,  yiaddr: 172.24.16.102
    *DHCP Proxy Task: Apr 30 11:44:53.755: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   siaddr: 0.0.0.0,  giaddr: 0.0.0.0
    *DHCP Proxy Task: Apr 30 11:44:53.755: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   server id: 0.0.0.0  rcvd server id: 172.24.13.251
    *DHCP Socket Task: Apr 30 11:44:58.594: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP received op BOOTREQUEST (1) (len 308,vlan 92, port 13, encap 0xec05)
    *DHCP Socket Task: Apr 30 11:44:58.594: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP selecting relay 1 - control block settings:
                            dhcpServer: 172.24.13.251, dhcpNetmask: 0.0.0.0,
                            dhcpGateway: 0.0.0.0, dhcpRelay: 172.24.16.251  VLAN: 93
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    *DHCP Socket Task: Apr 30 11:44:58.594: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   op: BOOTREQUEST, htype: Ethernet, hlen: 6, hops: 1
    *DHCP Socket Task: Apr 30 11:44:58.594: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   xid: 0x7e549f4a (2119475018), secs: 8, flags: 0
    *DHCP Socket Task: Apr 30 11:44:58.594: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   chaddr: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f
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    *DHCP Proxy Task: Apr 30 11:44:58.595: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   op: BOOTREPLY, htype: Ethernet, hlen: 6, hops: 0
    *DHCP Proxy Task: Apr 30 11:44:58.595: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   xid: 0x7e549f4a (2119475018), secs: 0, flags: 0
    *DHCP Proxy Task: Apr 30 11:44:58.595: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   chaddr: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f
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    *DHCP Proxy Task: Apr 30 11:44:58.595: a4:c3:61:7a:1a:4f DHCP   siaddr: 0.0.0.0,  giaddr: 0.0.0.0
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    On Foreign:
    WLAN Identifier.................................. 2
    Profile Name..................................... BAI-Beta
    Network Name (SSID).............................. BAI-Beta
    Status........................................... Enabled
    MAC Filtering.................................... Disabled
    Broadcast SSID................................... Disabled
    AAA Policy Override.............................. Disabled
    Network Admission Control
      Client Profiling Status ....................... Disabled
       DHCP ......................................... Disabled
       HTTP ......................................... Disabled
      Radius-NAC State............................... Disabled
      SNMP-NAC State................................. Disabled
      Quarantine VLAN................................ 0
    Maximum number of Associated Clients............. 0
    Maximum number of Clients per AP Radio........... 200
    Number of Active Clients......................... 42
    Exclusionlist Timeout............................ 60 seconds
    Session Timeout.................................. 86400 seconds
    User Idle Timeout................................ 300 seconds
    --More-- or (q)uit
    User Idle Threshold.............................. 0 Bytes
    NAS-identifier................................... CHTWLC
    CHD per WLAN..................................... Enabled
    Webauth DHCP exclusion........................... Disabled
    Interface........................................ management
    Multicast Interface.............................. Not Configured
    WLAN IPv4 ACL.................................... unconfigured
    WLAN IPv6 ACL.................................... unconfigured
    mDNS Status...................................... Enabled
    mDNS Profile Name................................ default-mdns-profile
    DHCP Server...................................... Default
    DHCP Address Assignment Required................. Enabled
    Static IP client tunneling....................... Disabled
    PMIPv6 Mobility Type............................. none
    Quality of Service............................... Bronze
    Per-SSID Rate Limits............................. Upstream      Downstream
    Average Data Rate................................   0             0
    Average Realtime Data Rate.......................   0             0
    Burst Data Rate..................................   0             0
    Burst Realtime Data Rate.........................   0             0
    Per-Client Rate Limits........................... Upstream      Downstream
    Average Data Rate................................   0             0
    Average Realtime Data Rate.......................   0             0
    --More-- or (q)uit
    Burst Data Rate..................................   0             0
    Burst Realtime Data Rate.........................   0             0
    Scan Defer Priority.............................. 5,6
    Scan Defer Time.................................. 100 milliseconds
    WMM.............................................. Disabled
    WMM UAPSD Compliant Client Support............... Disabled
    Media Stream Multicast-direct.................... Disabled
    CCX - AironetIe Support.......................... Enabled
    CCX - Gratuitous ProbeResponse (GPR)............. Disabled
    CCX - Diagnostics Channel Capability............. Disabled
    Dot11-Phone Mode (7920).......................... Disabled
    Wired Protocol................................... None
    Passive Client Feature........................... Disabled
    Peer-to-Peer Blocking Action..................... Disabled
    Radio Policy..................................... All
    DTIM period for 802.11a radio.................... 1
    DTIM period for 802.11b radio.................... 1
    Radius Servers
       Authentication................................ 172.24.13.20 1812
       Accounting.................................... Disabled
       Dynamic Interface............................. Disabled
       Dynamic Interface Priority.................... wlan
    Local EAP Authentication......................... Disabled
    --More-- or (q)uit
    Security
       802.11 Authentication:........................ Open System
       FT Support.................................... Disabled
       Static WEP Keys............................... Disabled
       802.1X........................................ Disabled
       Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA/WPA2)............. Enabled
          WPA (SSN IE)............................... Disabled
          WPA2 (RSN IE).............................. Enabled
             TKIP Cipher............................. Disabled
             AES Cipher.............................. Enabled
                                                                   Auth Key Management
             802.1x.................................. Enabled
             PSK..................................... Disabled
             CCKM.................................... Disabled
             FT-1X(802.11r).......................... Disabled
             FT-PSK(802.11r)......................... Disabled
             PMF-1X(802.11w)......................... Disabled
             PMF-PSK(802.11w)........................ Disabled
          FT Reassociation Timeout................... 20
          FT Over-The-DS mode........................ Enabled
          GTK Randomization.......................... Disabled
          SKC Cache Support.......................... Disabled
    --More-- or (q)uit
          CCKM TSF Tolerance......................... 1000
       WAPI.......................................... Disabled
       Wi-Fi Direct policy configured................ Disabled
       EAP-Passthrough............................... Disabled
       CKIP ......................................... Disabled
       Web Based Authentication...................... Disabled
       Web-Passthrough............................... Disabled
       Conditional Web Redirect...................... Disabled
       Splash-Page Web Redirect...................... Disabled
       Auto Anchor................................... Enabled
       FlexConnect Local Switching................... Disabled
       flexconnect Central Dhcp Flag................. Disabled
       flexconnect nat-pat Flag...................... Disabled
       flexconnect Dns Override Flag................. Disabled
       FlexConnect Vlan based Central Switching ..... Disabled
       FlexConnect Local Authentication.............. Disabled
       FlexConnect Learn IP Address.................. Enabled
       Client MFP.................................... Optional
       PMF........................................... Disabled
       PMF Association Comeback Time................. 1
       PMF SA Query RetryTimeout..................... 200
       Tkip MIC Countermeasure Hold-down Timer....... 60
    AVC Visibilty.................................... Disabled
    --More-- or (q)uit
    AVC Profile Name................................. None
    Flow Monitor Name................................ None
    Call Snooping.................................... Disabled
    Roamed Call Re-Anchor Policy..................... Disabled
    SIP CAC Fail Send-486-Busy Policy................ Enabled
    SIP CAC Fail Send Dis-Association Policy......... Disabled
    KTS based CAC Policy............................. Disabled
    Assisted Roaming Prediction Optimization......... Disabled
    802.11k Neighbor List............................ Disabled
    802.11k Neighbor List Dual Band.................. Disabled
    Band Select...................................... Disabled
    Load Balancing................................... Disabled
    Multicast Buffer................................. Disabled
     Mobility Anchor List
     WLAN ID     IP Address            Status
     2           172.24.13.251        Up
    802.11u........................................ Disabled
    MSAP Services.................................. Disabled
    On Anchor:
    WLAN Identifier.................................. 1
    Profile Name..................................... BAI-Beta
    Network Name (SSID).............................. BAI-Beta
    Status........................................... Enabled
    MAC Filtering.................................... Disabled
    Broadcast SSID................................... Disabled
    AAA Policy Override.............................. Disabled
    Network Admission Control
      Client Profiling Status ....................... Disabled
       DHCP ......................................... Disabled
       HTTP ......................................... Disabled
      Radius-NAC State............................... Disabled
      SNMP-NAC State................................. Disabled
      Quarantine VLAN................................ 0
    Maximum number of Associated Clients............. 0
    Maximum number of Clients per AP Radio........... 200
    Number of Active Clients......................... 48
    Exclusionlist Timeout............................ 60 seconds
    Session Timeout.................................. 86400 seconds
    User Idle Timeout................................ 300 seconds
    --More-- or (q)uit
    User Idle Threshold.............................. 0 Bytes
    NAS-identifier................................... CHADWLC01
    CHD per WLAN..................................... Enabled
    Webauth DHCP exclusion........................... Disabled
    Interface........................................ bai-beta
    Multicast Interface.............................. Not Configured
    WLAN IPv4 ACL.................................... unconfigured
    WLAN IPv6 ACL.................................... unconfigured
    mDNS Status...................................... Enabled
    mDNS Profile Name................................ default-mdns-profile
    DHCP Server...................................... Default
    DHCP Address Assignment Required................. Enabled
    Static IP client tunneling....................... Disabled
    PMIPv6 Mobility Type............................. none
    Quality of Service............................... Bronze
    Per-SSID Rate Limits............................. Upstream      Downstream
    Average Data Rate................................   0             0
    Average Realtime Data Rate.......................   0             0
    Burst Data Rate..................................   0             0
    Burst Realtime Data Rate.........................   0             0
    Per-Client Rate Limits........................... Upstream      Downstream
    Average Data Rate................................   0             0
    Average Realtime Data Rate.......................   0             0
    --More-- or (q)uit
    Burst Data Rate..................................   0             0
    Burst Realtime Data Rate.........................   0             0
    Scan Defer Priority.............................. 5,6
    Scan Defer Time.................................. 100 milliseconds
    WMM.............................................. Disabled
    WMM UAPSD Compliant Client Support............... Disabled
    Media Stream Multicast-direct.................... Disabled
    CCX - AironetIe Support.......................... Enabled
    CCX - Gratuitous ProbeResponse (GPR)............. Disabled
    CCX - Diagnostics Channel Capability............. Disabled
    Dot11-Phone Mode (7920).......................... Disabled
    Wired Protocol................................... None
    Passive Client Feature........................... Disabled
    Peer-to-Peer Blocking Action..................... Disabled
    Radio Policy..................................... All
    DTIM period for 802.11a radio.................... 1
    DTIM period for 802.11b radio.................... 1
    Radius Servers
       Authentication................................ 172.24.13.20 1812
       Accounting.................................... Disabled
       Dynamic Interface............................. Disabled
       Dynamic Interface Priority.................... wlan
    Local EAP Authentication......................... Disabled
    --More-- or (q)uit
    Security
       802.11 Authentication:........................ Open System
       FT Support.................................... Disabled
       Static WEP Keys............................... Disabled
       802.1X........................................ Disabled
       Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA/WPA2)............. Enabled
          WPA (SSN IE)............................... Disabled
          WPA2 (RSN IE).............................. Enabled
             TKIP Cipher............................. Disabled
             AES Cipher.............................. Enabled
                                                                   Auth Key Management
             802.1x.................................. Enabled
             PSK..................................... Disabled
             CCKM.................................... Disabled
             FT-1X(802.11r).......................... Disabled
             FT-PSK(802.11r)......................... Disabled
             PMF-1X(802.11w)......................... Disabled
             PMF-PSK(802.11w)........................ Disabled
          FT Reassociation Timeout................... 20
          FT Over-The-DS mode........................ Enabled
          GTK Randomization.......................... Disabled
          SKC Cache Support.......................... Disabled
    --More-- or (q)uit
          CCKM TSF Tolerance......................... 1000
       WAPI.......................................... Disabled
       Wi-Fi Direct policy configured................ Disabled
       EAP-Passthrough............................... Disabled
       CKIP ......................................... Disabled
       Web Based Authentication...................... Disabled
       Web-Passthrough............................... Disabled
       Conditional Web Redirect...................... Disabled
       Splash-Page Web Redirect...................... Disabled
       Auto Anchor................................... Enabled
       FlexConnect Local Switching................... Disabled
       flexconnect Central Dhcp Flag................. Disabled
       flexconnect nat-pat Flag...................... Disabled
       flexconnect Dns Override Flag................. Disabled
       FlexConnect Vlan based Central Switching ..... Disabled
       FlexConnect Local Authentication.............. Disabled
       FlexConnect Learn IP Address.................. Enabled
       Client MFP.................................... Optional
       PMF........................................... Disabled
       PMF Association Comeback Time................. 1
       PMF SA Query RetryTimeout..................... 200
       Tkip MIC Countermeasure Hold-down Timer....... 60
    AVC Visibilty.................................... Disabled
    --More-- or (q)uit
    AVC Profile Name................................. None
    Flow Monitor Name................................ None
    Call Snooping.................................... Disabled
    Roamed Call Re-Anchor Policy..................... Disabled
    SIP CAC Fail Send-486-Busy Policy................ Enabled
    SIP CAC Fail Send Dis-Association Policy......... Disabled
    KTS based CAC Policy............................. Disabled
    Assisted Roaming Prediction Optimization......... Disabled
    802.11k Neighbor List............................ Disabled
    802.11k Neighbor List Dual Band.................. Disabled
    Band Select...................................... Disabled
    Load Balancing................................... Disabled
    Multicast Buffer................................. Disabled
     Mobility Anchor List
     WLAN ID     IP Address            Status
     1           172.24.13.251        Up
    802.11u........................................ Disabled
    MSAP Services.................................. Disabled

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