Won't Write ID3 Tags onto CDS
I'm a musician in the process of producing my first home made album. I have all the tracks on my Laptop Itunes, but things get a little complicated when I want to burn them onto a blank CD. Burning is a success, but if I take that CD and upload it to another computer's itunes, all the track names have disappeared as well as the artist name, album name, etc...
I tried submitting the track names to the Gracenote database, and this did not solve my problem. I also tried using the File>export button to save the txt file on the blank CD, but this did not solve my problem either.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mapleleaf3 wrote:
2) Using the File>export button and clicking save in the CD drive is the correct way to put CD text onto the CD, right?
Preferences > Advanced > Burning (tab)
Under "Audio CD", check "Include CD Text"
Mapleleaf3 wrote:
3) Would this CD text be able to be read by other people's Itunes?
CD-TEXT only allows capable audio players (portable CD players, certain car stereo CD players, etc.) to scroll that information across its display as the track is playing.
For other people's iTunes to be able to retrieve the track listing, it has to be first uploaded into Gracenote's database, once Gracenote processes the information.
Steve
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Hi gang. Odd problem. Just very recently noticed it.
With some files, but not all, when I go to bounce them, it won't let me write ID3 tags.
I click the Bounce icon. The bounce box comes up.
I overtype the file name at the top.
I select destination MP3. Stereo mode is joint stereo. Write ID3 tags is ticked, so are use best encoding, filter frequencies below 10Hz , mode offline and include audio tail. Bit rate mono is 80kbps. Bit rate stereo is 160kps. Bit rate VBR is not ticked.
I click ID3 settings. The Bounce box goes out and then after a very short moment comes back set back to the PCM destination with the file name missing.
I go through the whole routine again. This time the bounce box goes out and stays out.
The only way it will bounce is without changing the ID3 tags. It flatly refused to edit them. Just no way, I can't get at them, that's it.
Version is 9.1.5 (1 7 0 0.9) 32 bit. Yes I have tried saving the file, shutting the program down and restarting it, it still does it. Once a file starts doing this, that's it, it always does it.
The only thing that's changed recently is DwellClick. Every file created after that seems to have the problem. Every one before it is still OK, even with DwellClick running. However, if I create a new project now, the problem doesn't happen, it's fine. Something must be happening during the project that stops the ID3 tag dialogue box being accessible.
Is this a software incompatibility? a software bug? suggestions??Hi
Erm, excuse me asking a really stupid question, but how would I do that?
and why is it affecting some files but not others? The latest file here does not seem affected. If it was a global preferences issue would it not affect all files? is it not more likely that it is the project itself that has the issue?
I notice that the project file can be examined as a package which apparently contains a folder LgDoc, which itself contains
displayState, which appears to contain coding instructions and data
documentData, which is mostly unintelligible coding with odd bits in clear text
windowImage.jpg, which is just the graphic for the icon.
This for example is a displayState file from a project that does not allow access to the ID3 tags:
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<dict>
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<integer>1</integer>
<key>docPreferences</key>
<dict>
<key>EXSEditorGlobalPersistency</key>
<dict/>
</dict>
<key>screenVisibleFrames</key>
<array>
<string>{{0, 97}, {1440, 781}}</string>
</array>
<key>screensetCurrSlot</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>screensetDictArray</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>layoutDictArray</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>docwWindowState</key>
<dict>
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<integer>-1</integer>
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<integer>1</integer>
<key>docwListTabIndex_notes</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>focusedElement</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>inspectorIsVisible</key>
<true/>
<key>listsAreVisible</key>
<false/>
<key>markerTextIsExpanded</key>
<true/>
<key>markerTextSplitPosition</key>
<real>33.333000183105469</real>
<key>mediaListIsCurrent</key>
<true/>
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<string>0 97 1440 781/0 0 1440 900 0 97 1440 781</string>
<key>tabViewPercentMixer</key>
<real>100</real>
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<key>toolbarIsVisible</key>
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</dict>
<key>udataArrange</key>
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<key>udataPianoRoll</key>
<data>
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<key>windowIsZoomed</key>
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<key>docwWindowType</key>
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</dict>
</array>
<key>screensetLocked</key>
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</dict>
</array>
</dict>
</plist>
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Mediasource won't update ID3 tags!
"Mediasource won't update ID3 tags!? Please help! I have been using Mediasource 5 over the years to painstakingly get my mp3 library organized just the way I want it. I know that the Media Source track info is not necessarily the same as what's stored in the ID3 tag of the files themselves. I am trying to update the ID3 tags so that the info matches what is in Media Source. The good news is, I can right click on my database in CMS and there is an option to "Update Track Properties". Within this window are two options: one to update the ID3 tags to match MediaSource, and another to update MediaSource to match the ID3 tags.
So far so good, here's the problem. No matter which option you choose, it always does the latter of updating MediaSource to match the ID3 tags. ARGHH!! I've tried this over and over, trying both options, but no matter what I do, it's always copying in the wrong direction. That goodness I had backed up my database before doing it. I've tried both CMS 5.0.38 and the newer 5.20.23 but both have the same issue.
So is there any way to get Mediasource to take it's data and copy it over the ID3 tag data? Anyone know of a patch or other software that read the CMS database file and do this?Mapleleaf3 wrote:
2) Using the File>export button and clicking save in the CD drive is the correct way to put CD text onto the CD, right?
Preferences > Advanced > Burning (tab)
Under "Audio CD", check "Include CD Text"
Mapleleaf3 wrote:
3) Would this CD text be able to be read by other people's Itunes?
CD-TEXT only allows capable audio players (portable CD players, certain car stereo CD players, etc.) to scroll that information across its display as the track is playing.
For other people's iTunes to be able to retrieve the track listing, it has to be first uploaded into Gracenote's database, once Gracenote processes the information.
Steve -
ITunes won't read ID3 tags that Windows sees
I recently switched my library over from a Mac laptop to a PC desktop. I have about 70 GB of perfectly organized music accumulated over years and years.
In the process, after I loaded some songs into iTunes (using the Keep My iTunes Folder Organized and all that stuff), I noticed that about 10 GB of music were without titles, artists, or album info, and just displayed the name of the MP3 file (so like instead of displaying 15 Step by Radiohead from In Rainbows, Track 1 it displayed "01 15 Step" in the Title column only).
The problem is that when I navigate to these songs in Windows Explorer, not only do I see all of the correct ID3 information, I see the extras like Album Art have loaded perfectly as well. I can play these songs in Windows Media Player and the ID3 info is perfect.
Does anyone know why iTunes won't read these ID3 tags or how to get iTunes to read them?I am also having the same problem with about 200 of my MP3s. The tag info shows up perfectly using QuickLook on Leopard, but in iTunes I can't see any of the info. I have tried converting the ID3 tag version, revesing the unicode....nothing.
Have you had any luck? -
So long story short, I lost my iTunes library and had to re-import all of my songs. Problem is, iTunes isn't reading the ID3 tags correctly, and most of my music has "unknown" under artist, album, etc. Normally, it wouldn't be a big deal to just go through my library and update the information for the tracks manually. But I have a LOT of music, and it would take forever to do so for my entire library. I use iTunes whenever I import CDs or purchase music, so the ID3 tags were all originally created by iTunes itself, which doesn't make any sense. All of the ID3 information (track names, artist, album, etc.) is showing up fine in Explorer and Windows Media Player, so I'm not sure why iTunes isn't recognizing it. Any ideas?
I suspect the tracks have multiple tags which iTunes doesn't cope with. Each mp3 file should have a single ID3v2.3 tag for best results with iTunes. Some software creates both ID3v1 and ID3v2.x tags when creating mp3s. If these are edited with iTunes it may update one tag, but then later read back unchanged data from the other. MediaMonkey has some useful tools for cleaning tags, assuming that is the problem, and you can determine which version needs clearing out. Test with small samples to make sure.
tt2 -
Bug or Feature? iTunes doesn't write ID3 Tags when you recorded in VBR mode
When you record music from a CD with iTunes (6.0.4 and 6.0.5) using higher bit rates (High Quality) together with VBR, then the iTunes database initialy shows a correct entry. But if you check the created mp3-files with the Finder application you will see that there is no id3-tag in the file.
When you later move your iTunes music folder, iTunes asks you to modfify everything concerning the embedded infos (id3 tags). If you then say "yes" your database is gone.
I saw a couple of postings where users complain about that iTunes loses the id3 tag when they burn a CD. I think that there has never been a physical ID3-Tag although the iTunes database shows a correct entry.
Is some kind of a bug fix out there or should I use Musicmatch within Parallels Desktop for Mac in order to properly record in VBR mode?Odysseas,
"But if you check the created mp3-files with the Finder application you will see that there is no id3-tag in the file."
You can't see ID3 tags in the Finder. The data is imbedded in the song file itself.
Regular, commercially produced CDs do not support ID3 tag information. When you insert a CD and it opens in iTunes, the application will go out on the internet and look up the track information in the Gracenote (CDDB) database.
Then, when you rip the CD to an MP3 or AAC etc. the track information is then incorporated into the encoded song file. Using VBR shouldn't prevent the ID3 tag information from being transfered.
However, if you then burn a music CD from that file, the ID3 tag information is lost.
Matt -
After converting mp3s to AAC, does itunes write id3 tags?
I'm on OSX 10.3.9 and running iTunes 5.0.1. I just recently converted a lot of music which was on mp3 format to AAC at 128kbps (saved about 30% space with no loss of quality).
Now when I'm running iTunes, it lags and a small window comes up sporadically saying "Writing ID3 Tags."
Is this for the files I converted to AAC recently, or what's this all about?out of interest how did you do the conversion ?
Make an intelligent playlist, with the setings, "kind is" - "MPEG"
Check that your "convert to" setting is AAC.
In your MPEG playlist, press command and a keys together (or Edit > Select All, from the menu bar) and choose Advanced > Convert to AAC.
When you are done, use Select All then option and delete keys together in the playlist, to remove the MPEGs from your library. -
Pytagwrite - easily write ID3 tags to your songs
So, I eventually got fed up of manually typing in the song titles and artists in ncmpcpp. I mean, the title is the same as the file name, right?
#!/usr/bin/env python2
import os
import sys
from mutagen.id3 import ID3
from mutagen.easyid3 import EasyID3
import mutagen
for root, dirs, files in os.walk(sys.argv[1]):
if root == sys.argv[1]:
continue
for f in files:
try:
song = EasyID3(os.path.join(root, f))
except mutagen.id3.error:
song = ID3()
song.save(f)
break
song['title'] = f[:-4]
song['artist'] = root.split('/')[-1]
song.save()
Basically, it parses through your music folder. For every mp3 that has an ID3 header, it writes the title of the song, which is the file name with the extension stripped off, and the artist, which is the top directory name.
For example:
/home/brad/Music/Pink Floyd/Wish You Were Here.mp3
would become...
Title: Wish You Were Here
Artist: Pink Floyd
Dependencies:
* mutagen (mutagen-svn in the AUR)
NOTE: My python habits...err...suck. Therefore, there are probably many things that should be changed. Please do mention those.
EDIT (11/11/10): Updated script. Many thanks to EnvoyRising.
Last edited by itsbrad212 (2010-11-11 23:01:18)1. Using sys.argv would allow the user to pass in a music directory instead of having it hard-coded
2. Use of os.walk might be more straight forward.
#!/usr/bin/env python2
import os
import sys
from mutagen.id3 import ID3
from mutagen.easyid3 import EasyID3
import mutagen
for root, dirs, files in os.walk(sys.argv[1]):
if root == sys.argv[1]:
continue
for f in files:
try:
song = EasyID3(os.path.join(root, f))
except mutagen.id3.error:
song = ID3()
song.save(f)
break
song['title'] = f[:-4]
song['artist'] = root.split('/')[1]
song.save()
That said, I didn't have much use for the script since i have my music organized as Artist/Album/## Track . Either way, this was kind of fun to hack on.
Last edited by EnvoyRising (2010-11-11 07:58:37) -
Will iTunes every properly write id3 tags?
I'll change info to how I want it.
For example..
I erase all the albums/album atrists/year/track# etc.. because I don't really care.
I take the "purchased from beatport" out of the comments and replace it with the Key
Often I find that a few days later I will go back and the comments will be changed back, or the album will be changed back.
Why is this?
ALSO.. Why can you only consolidate artists/album/track? I don't get this.
Shouldn't there be a way for us to choose how we want our files stored?
Seems like it would be pretty easy to implement.I erase all the albums/album atrists/year/track# etc.. because I don't really care.
I take the "purchased from beatport" out of the comments and replace it with the Key
Often I find that a few days later I will go back and the comments will be changed back, or the album will be changed back.
Why is this?
There is nothing in iTunes that will automatically change track info like that. However, it is possible that you have another program on your Mac that modifies the tags, which are then reflected by iTunes the next time it reads the file. Do you have a tagging program, or Spotify, or anything like that?
ALSO.. Why can you only consolidate artists/album/track? I don't get this.
Shouldn't there be a way for us to choose how we want our files stored?
That is how Consolidate works. There is no option for Consolidate to do it differently. -
Getting Information from ID3 tags from streamed mp3 files in Flash CS4 AS3.0
Hi everyone:
I have spend my whole day trying to find a good way to access ID3 tags in AS3.0; but didn't find anything helpful.
In my project I am making a sound object and assigning it a URL:
Then I stream the sound into a sound channel:
var s:Sound = new Sound(new URLRequest('URL here"));
var sc:SoundChannel;
My problem:
I want to read the ID3 tag somehow and display the artist name or anything in the ID3 tag, onto the screen.
Complication:
I Have the URL change through user input, and naturally I want to update all the information with the new ID3 tags information.
var s:Sound = new Sound(new URLRequest('NEW URL here"));
Thank you for any help!I know I took it out because it didn't work. I had something like this:
var soundLoaderContext:SoundLoaderContext = new SoundLoaderContext();
soundLoaderContext.checkPolicyFile = true;
var music:Sound = new Sound(new URLRequest("URL #1 (from my server)"));
var sc:SoundChannel;//sound channel
var isPlaying:Boolean = false;//checks f music is playing or not
var pausePoint:Number = 0.00;//this variable is for the pause function
music.addEventListener(Event.ID3, id3Handler);
stop_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, stopMusic);//stop function call
function stopMusic(e:Event):void//stop function
if(sc != null)//if music is playing
sc.stop();//stops the music from playing
isPlaying = false;//sets it to false(off)
playPause_mc.gotoAndStop(1);//modifies graphic item on stage
pausePoint = 0.00;//resets pause value
play_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, playMusic);//pause / play function call
function playMusic(e:Event):void//pause / play function
if (isPlaying) {// if it is playing
pausePoint = sc.position;pausePoint get curreny value (position of song)
sc.stop();//stops the music from playing
isPlaying = false;//sets it to false(off)
playPause_mc.gotoAndStop(1);//modifies graphic item on stage
} else if (!isPlaying){// if it is not playing
sc = music.play(pausePoint);//starts the music from the pausePoint value.
isPlaying = true;//sets it to true(on)
playPause_mc.gotoAndStop(2);//modifies graphic item on stage
music2_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, music2);//function call (if music is clicked)
function music2(e:Event):void{//this function stops current playing music and resets graphics, assigns a new URL and starts playing it.
if(isPlaying || pausePoint != 0)
sc.stop();
playPause_mc.gotoAndStop(1);
music = new Sound(new URLRequest("URL #2 (from my server)"));
music.addEventListener(Event.ID3, id3Handler);
sc = music.play();
isPlaying = true;
playPause_mc.gotoAndStop(2);
music1_btn.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, music1);
function music1(e:Event):void{//this function stops current playing music and resets graphics, assigns a new URL and starts playing it. just like above only a different song.
if(isPlaying || pausePoint != 0)
sc.stop();
playPause_mc.gotoAndStop(1);
music = new Sound(new URLRequest("URL #1 (from my server)"));
music.addEventListener(Event.ID3, id3Handler);
sc = music.play();
isPlaying = true;
playPause_mc.gotoAndStop(2);
function id3Handler(evt:Event):void {
var id3:ID3Info = evt.target.id3;
trace(id3.artist + ' - ' + id3.songName);
name_txt = id3.songName;
album_txt = id3.album;
artist_txt = id3.artist;
This is mostly just taking the exact code from the website I mentioned earlier.
When I run this it outputs the trace command 1 time and nothing more. Only the trace(trace(id3.artist + ' - ' + id3.songName);) gets triggered once.
No errors. No warning. Not working.
Thank you for helping me! -
I recently received a disc from a friend, the disc had 16 songs on it, with no ID3 Tag info. I went through and added the missing info manually using the "Get Info" option from the file in iTunes & hit OK, but when I was done, the files look complete in iTunes, but the original file copied to the hard drive was unchanged. When I used iTunes 10, it used to rewrite the ID tags for the file on my hard drive with the changed info via iTunes. I double checked to make sure that I "Let iTunes Organize" my files and folders. I've looked through threads, googled, etc, and I have NO clue what to do, or even if I did something. Help!
On a side note, where is the "Power Search" in the iTunes Store? That seems to be a never ending question floating around the threads as well.i'd normally think about access permissions as iTunes will fail silently if it can't write out the updated tag however the fact that Winamp can manage it suggests another problem.
It may be that the files have multiple tags. It used to be common to add both a v1.x & v2.x tag and in theory multiple tags can be used to support different languages. iTunes likes a single tag and may silently fail when it tries to write the data back to the track, thus doing nothing without reporting an error. Next time you access the file the library will update to reflect the true values in the tag. For what it's worth I believe it's recommended to use ID3v2.3 tags with iTunes.
MP3Validator may be all you need, but if not try using the iTunes option *Convert ID3 Tags... > None* say 3 times in a row, then *Convert ID3 Tags... > v2.3* to see if that creates a situation in which your edits can hold.
tt2 -
Can iTunes write corrected ID3 tags to the main files?
I'm sure this has been posted somewhere already, but I can't find it, so here goes.
I have changed several hundred ID3 tags by editing the files in iTunes. Titles, artists, album, etc. The problem is, the main files aren't updating. SO if I change an entire album's ID3 info in iTunes, then delete it from iTunbes, then import it again, it's not updated. Is there a way iTunes can transfer whatever information I have changed within the application to the main files? I tried using the "Convert ID3 Tags" inside of iTunes and it didn't work.villenuv27 wrote:
It does for most fields, but it won't change the song title.
I still don't understand what you mean by "main files" or why you are deleting and re-importing. Sorry, but without more information, I don't have any suggestions. iTunes writes tags just fine for me but I allow iTunes to organize all my music. My iTunes files are my only music files. -
Archiving cds and why do i need id3 tags
here comes another one of those questions looking at which codec to use to store music.....i also have tag questions.....
i'm about to (re-)rip my cd collection and looking at some info re codecs and id3 tags
now.....i believe i understand the benefits of alac (lower file sizes, keeping id3 tags, lossless compression) v wav(no compression)
however (and for some out there) if we just entertain the fact that wav may have some minute benefit for me depending on my questions and answers given.....and yes i know wav and alac will sound the same to the human ear - i accept that as a given of lossless compression ......
points i'd like to outline:
i am looking to rip my cds, firstly and mostly, for an archiving purpose!! purpose numero uno!!
i could well want to re-create cds with these archived records in the future
size of files is of no concern to me at all
i'm using a mac nowadays
i will convert most of these files, where needed, to use with a portable music player (i'm not bothered with having, say a wav file and then also converting and having an alac file, as crazy as that sounds)
this is where i ask for info re the benefits of embedded tags that are found in alac:
are these tags that important?
where do they come into play in ripping and later converting music?
are these uses just bells and whistles that have no benefit to my needs?
if i rip cds to wav (or aiff), say, using itunes, will cd info and track listings be available on the downloading database (eg itunes) to name these wav files?
if i then ensure these song files are kept under the album's folder, have i just done what tags do? surely not. that is all i have needed in the past.
this is where i feel i may be really missing what id tags (can) do
are tags more than just managing song files and where they belong and where they have come from?
is it just a convenience of not personally managing your song files (as per previous paragraph)?
(in the past i had ripped cds to mp3 codec. i think i used "cd rip" or something like that on my pc.
my mp3 files were individually named and sorted and kept under album folders under artist name folders.
apart form the very odd occasion all track and album info i needed was found on a database that was attached to the ripping software.
i never had a problem managing/maintaining these files and folders.)
i welcome some enlightenment on some of my questions above and other info that may be relevant
and yes, i understand that music will sound the same as a wav file or alac file - but humour me re using wav and tell me why i need id3 tags
i guess the crux of it is:
why do i need id3 tags?
does my managing of my song file in the album folder do what tags do?
what problems/shortcomings/headaches may i encounter by not having those tags if i use wav as opposed to alac?
what do i not know about these little buggers?
what codec is best for my purpose of archiving and re creating of cds (for playing in cd players)
thanks in advance for your input and any clarity that i may experience through this
peter t
excuse my long windedness (i have spent some time editing this entry)Crows2012 wrote:
as mentioned earlier if i just have songs (wav) in album folders, when i import these albums into itunes, do you know if these will come up under AN album with their file names purely using my filename setup (but with no artwork)?
Yes, iTunes will read the filename, such as "Track 1" or something else and display it. But nothing else. No Album or Artist.
so the tracks will remain grouped as an album based on their initial folder and the albums and tracks as per file name?
Crows2012 wrote:
also, does aiff have limitations (apart from the full size of the file)?
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. For all practical purposes AIFF and WAV are exactly the same thing. They're just file containers.
i thought that i had read somewhere that aiff tags could run into some issues with its tags - ie may not always be transferred 100% accurately with certain players (or hardware maybe)
Crows2012 wrote:
and how do these codecs work re-creating an album for the purposes of playing in a cd player? - this is a crucial question for the purpose of my archiving/backup of CDs THEMSELVES
That's actually going to depend on what burning software you use. Once you rip the tracks to whatever file container you choose (WAV/AIFF/ALAC) you'll never really exactly re-create the album. But for archiving purposes all three file containers will do what you want, which is to create a lossless archive. AIFF has the advantage of supporting embedded ID3, which ALAC has the additional advantage of the files also being about half the size of AIFF/WAV files.
i was thinking that maybe wav was able to recreate an album (in effect duplicate one) if my cd was lost or damaged in the future. i was thinking this IF when ripping to wav everything is unchanged (unless there is other data on the original cd). and maybe only possible with wav. the purpose for this would be to play recreated cds on my cd player
any idea on this one?
(i havent looked too thoroughly on this angle but i'll keep googling on this one)
much appreciate all info thus far
peter t -
I've noticed that a few songs that I've imported have incorrect ID3 tags, so I go to "Get Info" to fix them. When I click OK, everything looks good, but as soon as I play the file it goes back to the original tag. I've tried changing the tag and sorting options and made everything the same, but nothing seems to work. Once I open the file in Winamp and edit the tag there, iTunes recognizes the new tag, but I am unable to directly edit AND save the tags through iTunes.
For example:
I try to change the tag from "Original artist name - original track title" to
"Artist - Title"
Clicking OK makes it look right, but as soon as I double click the song to play it, it goes right back to "Original artist name - original track title".
This isn't the case with every file, though; some can be edited with no problems. I've made sure the non-working files have been converted to ID3v2.2. None of the files are stored in my iTunes Music folder, and none are DRM protected.i'd normally think about access permissions as iTunes will fail silently if it can't write out the updated tag however the fact that Winamp can manage it suggests another problem.
It may be that the files have multiple tags. It used to be common to add both a v1.x & v2.x tag and in theory multiple tags can be used to support different languages. iTunes likes a single tag and may silently fail when it tries to write the data back to the track, thus doing nothing without reporting an error. Next time you access the file the library will update to reflect the true values in the tag. For what it's worth I believe it's recommended to use ID3v2.3 tags with iTunes.
MP3Validator may be all you need, but if not try using the iTunes option *Convert ID3 Tags... > None* say 3 times in a row, then *Convert ID3 Tags... > v2.3* to see if that creates a situation in which your edits can hold.
tt2 -
Hi everyone,
i've a problem with my mp3 tags, i'm trying to organize my library trough updating the ID3 tags but it won't work.
For example, I've 2 artists: ACDC and AC/DC, when I change the info artist into ACDC, it won't change anything and i'll still have both names aperaing.
Worse, on some compilation, in my iphone, the album nam will appear as many times as there is songs... if I've 20 songs in an album called "Compilation 1" for example, the album "Compilation 1" will appear 20 times in my iphone list...
any idea?
thankscedricsh wrote:
However, they are not on my computer's hard drive but on an ethernet connected external drive, do you think it could be the problem ?
seems very likely to me. - but I've never tried that. That's worth a seperate topic here, perhaps someone who's used one could reply, Barring that, See below (for a way to test)
cedricsh wrote:
I've already tried some of your , my last chance will be to reinstal iTunes, however, will all of my library be lost (i mean, will i have to re-upload all the songs ?, i've over 8000 songs so it's pretty long).
No removing the program won't do anything to your music. After you reinstall itunes first try copying a few songs to default location on your internal HD, and see if problem still exists (make sure iTunes is pointed to it) THEN reestablish the external,
PS: I forgot to ask Does your iTunes Prefs > Advanced Tab show the correct path to your media folder? Do you have the "Copy files to Media Folder when adding... " checked?
Warning: I don't know about iTunes Match: but I would definitely turn off all Automatic updating (everywhere iTunes, iPhone etc ) while you're messing with this.
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