Workflow software

Hi friend, do you know workflow software products, like other software technologies, have developed from diverse origins. While some offerings have been developed as pure workflow software, many have evolved from image management systems, document management systems, relational or object database systems, and electronic mail systems

Hi,
We have info on workflow at http://erpgenie.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=6&id=124&Itemid=77
Also see our solutions database at http://solutions.erpgenie.com
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How to invoke Oracle Workflow software

Hi there,
I have successfully installed Oracle Workflow software in my mac laptop. Don't know how to invoke the software.
Getting the following exception.
sivanantham-kandans-Computer:~/9iR2/orahome/bin oracle$ wfresgen
Usage: wfresgen [-v] -f <resourcefile> <src_files>...
or wfresgen [-v] -d <user/password> <src_files>...
or wfresgen [-v] -u <user/password> <language> <src_files>...
sivanantham-kandans-Computer:~/9iR2/orahome/bin oracle$
thanks
siva

Hi,
I had never tried to install that, I prefer that DB to be down, since there may be some thing which requires the DB should be down if at all needed to apply or change any objects the servive might started or DB is started by installation application it self.
Let us wait for comments from others based on there comment you can proceed further.!!
So that I can learn some thing inturn..!!
Thanks & Regards,
Pavan Kumar N

Is Yosemite compatible with Kodak production planning and workflow software like Prinergy Workflow?

Is the new OS 10.10 system compatible with Kodak production planning and workflow software? like Prinergy Workflow (incl. the Workshop and Workspace user interfaces as well as the ColorFlow and Preps Client) and Prinergy Evo Client,

Steven,
Thank you for your quick reply and information there in. The video is very nice too. Great angles and composition.
So I guess, I'm going to have swap my drive and re-install my OS when the machine arrives.
I'm not going to be able to capture directly to my desktop (due to poratability reasons). So is there I way in Premire CS3 to uncompress the HDV from the camera and store it in my HDD in uncompressed format? I don't mind having to do this extra step each time if the post production experience is going to be better.
I've heard a lot about Aspect HD from you and others here as well as other forums. I'm not very video savvy yet and don't understand a lot of the vocabulary used :). I've been to their website and don't get what their products are supposed to give me either (I guess their audience understands exactly what they are saying).
What I do get is it decompresses the MPEG 2 to saves it to yout HDD for editing purposes. However, I would have thought the Premier Pro CS3 would have that capability as part of the product, no?
I'd also like to use footage that is not HDV as well as photos/images (composits) but still retain the final cut to be HDV quality. Is this possible and if so, what does it do to the editing experience/performance?
Will I be able to output the final cut back to my camera's Mini DV tape (without having to buy Aspect HD)?

Am New To Oracle WorkFlow.

Hi All,
m new to oracle workflow,i have no idea about workflow software that should install before practise on my personnel computer.i already install oracle DB 10g,forms 10g,plz told me wut i should install for workflow so i can do practice of workflow.
plz help me

Pl see this thread
WorkFlow Training
HTH
Srini

Replacing Oracle WorkFlow

Hi,
The client, I am working for don't want to use Oracle Workflow for some reason.
But I need Oracle Workflow Manager Schema to deploy my Process flows. So is there a way to deploy the Process flows without the Oracle Workflow Manager Schema? Is there any script which can do that?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Harsha

Hello, OWB process flows can be run in an XPDL compliant workflow engine, if you deploy to XML and then load the generated files. The question is, with what do you want to replace Oracle Workflow... You can even run a sequence of mappings directly without any workflow software, maybe through a shell script or a stored procedure, but this works only if you don't have complex flows.
If you need more info about the XPDL standard and other workflow engines (open source and commercial), see www.wfmc.org.
Hope this helps - Antonio

How to install workflow

I installed oracle8i download from OTN,
while how do I find the workflow in oracle 8i?
Please help me in this.
Regards,
Arun

Hi,
I think it is the same as installing 9i. The workflow software is on the Oracle 8i CD. You've to run the oracle installer again and I think you'll find there an option 'Oracle8i Management and Integration'. Choose for custom installation. You'll see that the workflow parts are selected. Follow the wizard and workflow will be installed.
For the Oracle Workflow client:
run the oracle installer again. I think you can choose for 'Oracle Client'. Choose for custom installation and check if the oracle workflow client software is checked.
There will be other parts of the client selected, but I think you need these parts ... So,just run it.
Miek

Oracle Workflow for owb10g2

I need to install a OWF 2.6.4 for OWB 10g2 on DB 10g Release 2.
where can I find a download for software and a documentation??
is it implicit installed by App Server?

The Workflow software is included in the 10g database pack. If you are downloading the zip files, you need the Companion DVD which I think is number three in the set of available files.
Unzip the file and run the installed on the same machine as your target database instance. Install the Workflow part (option 2 in the list of possible installation options) into your existing 10g database home.
Once the install is complete, goto ORACLE_HOME/wf/install and run wfinstall.csh on unix or wfinstall.bat on Windows. This will launch the installer for Workflow that will create the Workflow user. For the connection settings on the Workflow installer watch out for syntax. The screen seems to indicate you can use a TNSNAMES entry, however, I have only managed to get this to work by providing a JDBC format string "hostname:port:sid".
Once the OWF_MGR user has been created you can then register that user as an OWB repository user using the normal OWB Repository wizard.
Hope this helps
Keith

What is CTP workflow in prepress

Hi all,
I need the information about CTP workflow in prepress. I don't know which application is used. Let tell it them briefly.
Thanks in advance

printplanet would be a better place to pose the question.
Whoever is selling you film can point you in the right direction. When buying a platesetter and CTP solution you'll have no trouble getting various sales people to court you so you can weigh the cost to quality options.
Heidelberg is great end to end approach and has top notch stuff. They are a bit on the pricey side, which in this economy can be daunting to get in to. If you don't have Heidelberg presses it may be not the best option. I think Heidelberg sold about 3 of their Speedmaster presses in the states last year, which is kind of sad.
Adobe does make a RIP core, but not a workflow solution. The print core is sold to workflow vendors who can push it out in a variety of solutions. Heidelberg uses the PDF Print Engine in their solution which has been gaining quite a bit of ground. I think the prepress world is mostly divided between Harlequin and PDF Print Engine based RIPs, with various platesetter manufacturers leaning toward one. I think there are more workflows now using PDF Print Engine than Harlequin or JAWS nowadays. You'll certainly hear, when talking to sales for PDF Print Engine workflows, that because Adobe produces the print engine and the software that it is vastly superior to competing solutions. The line I get from workflow vendors is that when Adobe release a new Creative Suite the competing RIPs are left in the dark and forced to play catchup, sometimes months later and via costly upgrades. This is a common and outright lie that sales will give you. You can send highly complicated files with transparency generated out of CS5 to RIPs that existed before the invention of the PDF Print Engine just fine without any issues assuming you aren't sending them as EPS or dumping PDFs with transparency into Quark and spitting out a PS file like many were doing in the Illustrator 8 and prior days. RIP vendors are all going to give you a huge pissing match over transparency handling and that is the crux of the argument that I see from them.
Really contacting your pressroom supplies sales contact is a good bet if you are happy with them. If not, find another pressroom supply sales guy. They are thirsty for work, so don't let them be complacent. Beat em down, they are used to it.
Your concerns moving from film to CTP are going to include:
Workflow software – choosing a RIP core and a workflow that is right for you (ROOM vs NORM). Do you need or want to build imposition into your workflow? Do you need or foresee wanting your press to have press key control to automate pressman's work with keysetting? Want the keys to be set at the start of the run or throughout the run? Keysetting, imposition, CIP3/4 generation, proofing options such as Inkjet/raster pdf/normalized pdf can all be built in to workflow or tacked on as standalone. One workflow could charge you thousands of dollars for CIP3, another could give it away for nothing. One could charge thousands for a tiff output, another could include it. Some have options for web submission/approval. You could spend $30k on something and still be tacking on options before you can ever get a plate made, have features you will never use. You could spend $8k on something that has everything you need if you already have imposition/color mangement/proofing solutions covered.
It's really a question of what you have and like, and what you are missing or don't like.
Platesetters – There are many types of plates and platesetters out there. You'll likely reduce the amount of nasty chemicals you are working with moving to CTP, but how far do you need to go? There are emerging plate technologies that are much more environmentally friendly and there are some that are nearly as nasty as working with film. Do you run multiple shifts printing? Do you run multiple prepress shifts? Some plates can be burned and have to be on the press in an hour, some keep for days. What is the life of your average run? Some plates are good for 100,000 impressions or more, some are better suited for short runs.
Plates can be thermal, low chemistry or hybrids. You can get plates that are very durable and don't require nearly as much care in handling, or you can get plates that are sensitive and have to be on the press within just a couple of hours from being developed. Some plates if you run into an issue with hickeys on your plate and botch a plate cleaning them can result in a half an hour or more downtime compared to a thermal plate which can be burned and used immediately.
Questions there come down to how long your runs are going to be, how environmentally friendly you need or want to be, and how much staff you have for it. I'd say it's much more difficult to keep a green shop that runs a multiple shift pressroom that doesn't have a multiple shift prepress staff. You have to weigh the cost of the platesetter against the plates you are pushing through it or if you are going to get tied in with a contract. Our pressman always loved one brand of plates for years when we were film and later into being digital. we've gotten quite a few bad plates from them in recent years. If you get stuck in a contract with a plate manufacturer and their quality goes down that can be frustrating. If you find your pressroom supplier gets you into a contract with a plate manufacturer and then the plate manufacturer discontinues selling them plates that is similarly frustrating having to deal with multiple pressroom supply companies. Lots of factors in supplies are out there. If you have a good rapport with a pressroom supplier ask for their opinion.
At this point I'd personally steer clear of Kodak since their stock is pretty much in the dumps and they are primed to have someone eat up their graphic imaging division. GMG, Xitron, Esko, Heidelberg, FUJI, and AGFA are the big players I think at this point for software. FUJI and AGFA are pretty big in the plate world. I think Heidelberg gets their plates from Kodak, which makes me a bit leery. I know Heidelberg will always have top notch stuff, but suspect they will have to cave to whoever eats up Kodak's plate biz or pick the alternative. I'm not sure if there is a fourth big plate manufacturer but no one sells them in my neck of the woods. I personally use RAMPage for workflow, an AGFA Azura for a platesetter and FUJI plates. I've only used 3 workflow solutions, two brands of platesetters and two brands of plates.
There is a wealth of knowledge out there and I'm sure people at printplanet may be more informative as well as less wordy than I am.

Some help please navigating these forums and a little discussion as well?

There are a few questions I’d like to post, but first I need to determine how to use this newer style of user-to-user forum. Yeah, it’s been around a few years or so, but I’ve seen it take over the more traditional message board systems like v-bulletin and phpBB. Those boards were easy to navigate, as the forums, categories and topics were presented in a typical directory tree structure (even though the built-in search functions leaved a lot to be desired).
Now the trend has shifted to formats such as this. While some retain some semblance of categories and topics (discussions), others seem to abandon this altogether in favor posts or discussions being related via tags or keywords. Google is the worst offender – forcing the user to select up to 4 pre-defined descriptors when creating a new post.
Also confusing is how the terminology has changed. The forums are now calling topics, discussions. But they end up containing even less actual discussion on the topic and have de-volved into simple questions and answered. This is reinforced by the use of buttons to compel the original poster to designate responses as helpful or correct answers. This I would guess is in response to the myriad of answer seekers posting questions, receiving several helpful replies and never going back to say thanks, thus, the threads become all but useless for others who experience and seek out solutions to similar issues.
The new format also usually starts out with “ask your question here” which is just another way to say, “hey, how about at least giving the search a try before asking a question that’s been covered before”. Because many self-contained search features just don’t work, I can see why users just skip over it. But, what they may not know is that you can use Google to search a specific site. Forum, or blog which usually works pretty well. I’ve done this on a number of occasions, only to find the response as “this question has been answered here a hundred times – try searching”. If the responder is feeling generous that day, he or she may also present a link – a google search link that includes keywords.
So, here I do see the initial ask your question box, then underneath that, a bunch of icons that represent particular products/topics. I start searches using more keywords, the reduce them If there are too many results. This gradual decline works well for Google, but here at Apple Support, I went from over 700 results to just two by eliminating all but the two mandatory keywords. I will do some more searches and post in the appropriate section, but my gut reaction is that it would be hard to believe that I’m the only person who has ever had this question.
So, then – what’s the best and right way to use this new forum?
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A BRIEF HISTORY OF ONLINE MESSAGE BOARDS
I’m turning the double-nickel this year, so I’ve earned the right to gripe a bit. I don’t know everything, but for those of you youngsters, do yourself a favor a read up. If you truly are a techno-phile, you’ll find it at least somewhat interesting, at least enough to do a little research. Plus, this information isn’t all that old.
The first online community I was exposed to was the BBS – Bulletin Board System. I had just bought my first PC, a Tandy, and the sales guy sold me a modem and gave me a number to call to connect to his BBS. I installed the modem, dialed the number and for the first time heard the annoyingly beautiful sounds of modems connecting. The, almost like “Do you want to play a game?”, text appeared on my monitor and I was hooked. The BBSes were local – to avoid long distance calls – and operated by those who could afford a second, dedicated computer and phone line. Usually, only one person could connect at a time – browse the discussion topics, leave a post to add to the discussion, check private messages (email) then log off.
News Groups were the next form on online interaction I was introduced to. These required a special server running a dedicated protocol and a new reader, usually integrated in with an email client like Outlook Express. Each group was a specific topic – for example, Microsoft groups may have had a couple dozen or so groups covering topics like Windows 95 or networking, other commercially sponsored groups, or self-created groups. Like a BBS, you would log on, catch up on unread messages, respond to some and move on. It was in the News Groups where I learned how to program web pages to connect to a hosted database and many other things, thanks to the expertise and kindness of strangers. These groups soon became the territory of spammers, not to mention the real ugly recesses of the internet – international folks sharing “content” that the work obscene can’t even begin to describe. ISP’s soon dropped news groups from their services and they went away.
By this time however, the world-wide-web was now in full swing. We no longer needed AOL or Prodigy to get on the Net, just an ISP and browser. Broadband was becoming available in select markets. Web-based bulletin boards sprang up all over, filling the void that the news groups left behind. They evolved, but kept to the simple structure and format for a good long while. As the cost of web hosting came down, and the availability of online databases went up, and open source application became better and more robust, anyone could incorporate a forum into their site with little time or expense.
Social Media was on the rise. Sites came and went. From Friendster, to Myspace, then finally facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. The net also settled in to a short list of other content sharing sites – YouTube, Flickr, Instagram. These took over the social discussion aspects of the online forum sites. That left the forums to take the only remaining role of software and product support – both as an extension of a company’s support solution or user-to-user help and support.
On more than one occasion, I’ve tried to engage other users in topical and conceptual discussion in these groups, but it seems that they’ve already used their energy for that keeping up with their social media obligations. Facebook groups get lost in the multitude of pages. So end user support groups have settled into Q & A, mark the answer as correct them move on. Then another person comes along with the same question, enters it into the box, sees the first ten “pertinent” results that don’t answer the question, posts the question, and the cycle continues.
If anyone has read this far, I commend you! Reading is fast becoming a lost art. I know it’s hard to read off a computer screen, easier on a tablet. And while I live my gizmos and gadgets, I have to still at least once in a while pick up a real book. I’m perfectly satisfied with my iTunes system with the only issue being the quality of any downloaded music. It’s better than it used to be, but CD’s have superior sound. Blu-ray Disc has superior sound and picture.
I did purchase several books from the iTunes Book Store. But why? I could have bought them anywhere and read them in iBooks, but not the other way around. I had to sell my iOS devices. And now I can’t read my books. But that’s another story, for another day.

Slip Jigs
Contributors here so far are the cream of the crop...
As an overall reaction to your treatise, I agree. I also judge that you - like me - may have some experience and skill at UX design (User eXperience - usability design, for the unwashed masses).
First, let me commend your use of the WHITE SPACE that Apple graphic designers have so kindly provided. Looks very much like a paper page full of easy-to-read-SERIF-FONT text - it is clear you have experience with design concepts.
As a tribute, I will post in your style - although our compose pane here is not quite WYSIWYG, I am hoping that line spacing will sort itself out, if not I will remove my attempt at bucking the system - but it may time for you to get some new optics
you said:
" ... v-bulletin and phpBB. Those boards were easy to navigate, as the forums, categories and topics were presented in a typical directory tree structure... "
Agree that vBulletin, etc. WERE easy and familiar - but what is this structure but lipstick on that pig - see SITEMAP | ASC (tt2's excellent UserTip). The digital directory tree is merely an adaption of the familiar Fileroom of old... a room for files(computer), file cabinets w/ file 'folders'(folders) and files(files). Apple in the form of Jobs/Wozniak (actually Xerox, but I won't quibble) was groundbreaking in the introduction of the GUI to the masses. [see your comment on being forced to learn a new way of working... has always been thus]
Let me add that the lack of Apple's implementation of the stock features of "Sticky" threads - Announcements, Hot Topics, etc., is a miscalculation. The CATEGORIES above the Using ASC list of threads - "Announcements" and "Community Events" - baffle me as to their usefulness as I can see neither when I click 'em, only some "filtering" of what is in the "Feedback about Discussions" (?Feedback ?about? Disscussions?) Category.
you further said:
"... the trend has shifted to formats such as this. While some retain some semblance of categories and topics (discussions), others seem to abandon this altogether in favor posts or discussions being related via tags or keywords... "
Kids these days... => iDevices (generic for handheld smarty-devices of any stripe) are responsible for the VISUAL graphic design conventions... no more teensy-weensy cursor - but BIG FAT FINGERS.
A good suggestion to submit at Support_Feedback might be to improve the 'Smartness' of the search capabilities by REQUIRING tags to be attached by the OP (offer suggestions if they wish) AND FURTHER, allowing other users of status to ADD tags (see your ¶ #2) - my estimation of the ACTIVE SEARCH is that it is looking for matching terms in the title of a thread, but I have no proof - anecdotal or by documentation at JiveSoftware.
additionally you said:
"... the use of buttons to compel the original poster to designate responses as helpful or correct answers. This I would guess is in response to the myriad of answer seekers posting questions, receiving several helpful replies and never going back to say thanks, thus, the threads become all but useless for others who experience and seek out solutions to similar issues. "
I have no experience with other enterprise solutions, but the scuttlebutt on Jive is that it is the best in the business at Community Collaborative WorkFlow Software for Big Enterprise. We here unfortunately have been given use of a mere pittance of Jive's features. Apparently the MARKUP buttons have a really valuable purpose in the complete package of Jive workflow management. Here, merely a system for rewarding helpers. The green icon goes un-noticed by most and the OPost is likely irrelevant to most individual's issue. Regarding the latter portion, you can't change human nature. Some folks just aren't team players.
you continued:
"... The new format also usually starts out with “ask your question here” which is just another way to say, “hey, how about at least giving the search a try before asking a question that’s been covered before”. Because many self-contained search features just don’t work, I can see why users just skip over it. But, what they may not know is that you can use Google to search a specific site. ... "
This particular issue of "Why do folks not go to the dadgum forum related to their device/software?" has plagued me since actively taking part here. My maladies prompted ME to go directly to the forum/sub-forum where they belonged. Clearly "My iPhone is a BRICK - how do I UN-BRICK IT?" does not belong in this forum - Using ASC - but thousands of similar questions land here - it MAY be because the DEFAULT forum for un-PRE-visited forum at SUBMIT.
The WELCOME page has the preferred path - a "Search or ask a question" field and the teeny -> New to the Community? Start Here. link (actually Tutorials )
-- neither of which content does anything to coach the new user in "How Do I Use This Joint?"
Something akin to "Pick the Device or Software in which you are interested below" might at least get the visitor to the right place to BROWSE their issue. Many folks are unable to craft a TITLE to their question that even resembles their problem, much less explain it in the bodytext.
This is explained in the javascript:; link "How to write a good question" - e content of which I leave open AND hi-lited in a text file ready to copy/paste, for example:
Quoted from  Apple's "How to write a good question"
To help other members answer your question, give as many details as you can.
Include your product name and specs such as processor speed, memory, and storage capacity. Please do not include your Serial Number, IMEI, MEID, or other personal information.
Provide the version numbers of your operating system and relevant applications, for example "iOS 6.0.3" or "iPhoto 9.1.2".
Describe the problem, and include any details about what seems to cause it.
List any troubleshooting steps you've already tried, or temporary fixes you've discovered.
Here is how obscure that information is
It's almost as if the confusion is by design.
HOORAY! - another fan of the Google workaround. I get pooh-poohed by some for even suggesting going off the reservation, but it works WONDERFULLY and is FAST AS LIGHTNING with even more useful post-result filtering.
you concluded your evaluation with:
" So, then – what’s the best and right way to use this new forum? "
Learn the system just like you did when you first started using a computer instead of paper. It is what it is. I have a comfortable WorkFlow established using browser bookmarks and Add-ons + Google for all searches + email notifications to sort the wheat from the chaff. Not adopted of my choosing... but at least it's MINE!! Be advised that the SiteWare employs some "we will save you from yourself, helmet-law-like features" that may frustrate you from time to time - until you discover (or are told) how to circumvent them.
Some definitions:
Apple Support Communities = Bulletin Board Software Site
Community = Forum
Category = Sub-Forum
Question = Thread
Reply = Reply
Your not so "Brief History..." is clearly a good evaluation and Executive Summary. Are you SURE you're not an interactive developer?
best regards
CCC

More Questions on Rules in General

Okay so here is my
situation. I have a user that is wanting to use either Public folders
or a shared mailbox to automate a series of manual processes.
For example:
A customer service rep(CSR) takes a call asking for x to be completed.
CSR than sends an email to [email protected][1]
with the subject of "x"
The email is received in the mailbox or public folder.
An exchange rule moves the incoming message to the "In-Process" Folder
A user in that department reviews and completes the request.
The user moves the item to a complete folder. Or selects a category
that would than fire another rule that would move it to complete.
This process would be spanning multiple users.
They would also be used for multiple processes and changed for the "subject of x,y,z".
The process cannot be dependent on one users mailbox so everything needs to happen server-side (unless client side rules are different on Public Folders).
My questions:
Is all of this even possible, I have made it basically work but only with client rules.
I don't think that we should be using our exchange server to do this, am I just flat out wrong?
I am struggling to convince the user that we just need to have a
workflow software (sharepoint or like it) to be doing this type of thing
as we will have much more control over the workflow.
Any other thoughts or ideas?
Anyone else using exchange to do these types of things?

Hi,
I'm afraid you can NOT achieve your requirement on your exchange server.
On the exchange server, You can only use transport rules to specify message to a particular mailbox, not a particular folder.
Thanks.
Niko Cheng
TechNet Community Support

How can save only the checked values in a record as a string?

I have a question on form where the user can choose multiple checkboxes. Due to the type of form that it is there will only be one record written. I am using Access as a comprehensive form as opposed to a database in this instance.
Once industry submits this application (form) to us I upload some data to Oracle database which works fine. Now, I need to upload some of the data to a workflow software. I figured out how to do everything except the following:
In this record there are over 20 checkboxes. Each check box has a name/Record source such as SA (Surface Area), SC (Surface Contour), SS (Sleep Slope), ect. The user will select several of these checkboxes. I need to look at each chk box field. If the value
= true, write the fullname of each field to a table as a string with each field seperated with a comma. For instance,
If SA, SC and SS were checked on the form Surface Area,Surface Contour,Sleep Slope would be added to the Procedure_Value field in a table (see function ExportTable). Next I convert the table into a text file
Function ExportTable
dim rst As DAO.Recordset
dim strSQL1 As String
strSQL1 = "SELECT tblExport1.* FROM tblExport1;"
Set db = CurrentDb()
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL1, dbOpenDynaset)
With rst
.AddNew
rst!Procedure_Value = "Surface Area,Surface Contour,Sleep Slope"
.Update
End With
rst.Close
Set db = nothing
Set rst = nothing
End Function
jim neal

If I understand you correctly you have one table with a bunch of yes/no values (SA, SC, SS, etc.). Then for each record in that table you want to output a string listing all the fields from the first table which = yes (i.e are checked). Perhaps
the following code would get you started:
Sub JimNeal()
Dim strProcedure_Value As String
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
Dim rstOut As DAO.Recordset
Set rst = DBEngine(0)(0).OpenRecordset("TableWithCheckboxes")
Set rstOut = DBEngine(0)(0).OpenRecordset("OutputTable")
Do Until rst.EOF
strProcedure_Value = ""
If rst!SA Then strProcedure_Value = strProcedure_Value & "Surface Area,"
If rst!SC Then strProcedure_Value = strProcedure_Value & "Surface Contour,"
'... etc
If rst!SS Then strProcedure_Value = strProcedure_Value & "Steep Slope,"
rst.MoveNext
' Strip off final comma
If Len(strProcedure_Value) > 0 Then strProcedure_Value = Left(strProcedure_Value, Len(strProcedure_Value) - 1)
' Output the string to your output table
rstOut.AddNew
rstOut!Procedure_Value = strProcedure_Value
rstOut.Update
Loop
rst.Close
rstOut.Close
Set rst = Nothing
Set rstOut = Nothing
End Sub
-Bruce

Text shifting on imposed PDF; distill vs export

Hi experts. Please help me solve a mystery!
Mac OS 10.7, InDesign CS5 7.0.4
Here's the problem: I export a PDF (using modified version of the built-in X-1a PDF export preset to include bleed and crop marks)
Fonts are embedded, no problems when preflighting in Acrobat.
The printer imposes the file by placing my PDF into spreads in InDesign CS6 on Mac (OS unknown) and exports to PDF using unknown settings (The PDF producer is Adobe PDF Library 10.0.1).
The imposed PDF I get back from the printer has text shifting (the PDF i send to him looks fine--no gaps).
It looks like there are random blank spaces in the text and misaligned numbered lists. (left image, image on right shows original ID file)
Our production person insists that my exporting the PDF is to blame and says we must use distiller for sending files to the printer.
When I print to postscript then distill, the shifting does not occur in the imposed PDF i get back from the printer.
Everything I have read on here for years has said the postscript/distill route is bad/old/unnecessary/proof I should get a new printer.
Production claims fonts are not properly embedded when exporting PDF (patently false as the document info show that fonts are embedded).
Unless I can explain, and fix the shifting type problem, I will have to stick with postscript/distilling workflow.
(Although this is also not a guarantee--i have had the text shift/gap happen in PDFs that went through distiller. There the problem seemed to be a bullet glyph that was CID-H encoded.
When I switched the font from a TT to PS version of the font, it used different encoding and the shifting/gap was fixed in the PDF i got back from the printer.)
Please share your thoughts!
Thanks.

OK. I've gotten the original PDF files that were exported from CS5 and then placed into a new CS6 document and then exported from the OP. By the way, the problem is not limited to exported PDF, but also with PDF created by distillation of PostScript from CS5.
I cannot replicate the problem by simply creating a new InDesign CS6 document and placing pages into the new document and exporting.
However, I noted that some crop marks in the original CS5-exported PDF file were not in the CS6-exported file. That leads me to believe that something edited the CS6-exported PDF file. Furthermore, the CS6-exported PDF file was not only labelled as PDF/X-1a, but it also had the Trapped True key on. For exported PDF, InDesign provides no trapping function and absolutely no way of setting that trapping key in the PDF file. But Adobe Illustrator does provide the means of doing trapping and/or labeling a PDF/X file as being trapped with the Trapped True key.
At this point, I believe that some combination of the following events occurred:
*     The CS5 exported PDF file(s) were edited, possibly in Illustrator or with object editing in Acrobat Pro either with native tools or third party plug-ins and then resaved with the resultant PDF file(s) placed in the CS6 document. This editing may have messed up spacing of text that used ligatures, alternate characters, old style figures, etc. even though such text was not directly edited.
*     The CS6 exported imposed spreads were subsequently opened in Illustrator or some other third party trapping engine and resaved with the Trapped True key set. In the process of resaving the file, problems per (1) above occurred.
Conclusions:
(1)     Whether PDF/X-1a or PDF/X-4 was used for export anywhere in this process is irrelevant. The designs in question didn't use any transparency or color management. Furthermore, no CID-encoded fonts were involved and no font name conflicts were involved. However, the fonts used in the original InDesign documents were OpenType CFF fonts with extended character sets which were in fact accessed for ligatures, superscripts, subscripts, etc.
(2)     Previously non-disclosed steps were used in the workflow between the CS5 export and the resultant files I got to see. Using Illustrator as a PDF editor or as trapping software for PDF files in general is a possible / likely cause of the problems. If not Illustrator, then some very defective PDF workflow software for trapping and/or editing was used.
(3)     Although InDesign is not designed as an imposition tool, the fact is that it is used for amalgamation of content such as magazines, journals, etc. where ads and other content as PDF (and other formats) is placed within InDesign pages. This appears to be working correctly and is not the source of the problem.
The OP is dealing with problematic workflow, but not with InDesign problems.
          - Dov

Ability to create a collection from a text file containing the names of the pictures

1 thing that would be very good is the ability to create a collection / quick collection from a text file that contains the names of the picture we want in that collection...
The reason for that is when i receive an order from a customer typicaly 100-200 different pictures (i'm a wedding photographer), i ask my customer to send me an excel spread sheet with all the name or number of the picture thay want with size & quantity...
I would like to be able to use that file as an input for a batch job that would add all those files to a collection "customer order" instaid od adding them 1 by 1... it would save me lots of time and would prevent some errors in the order...
I am currently able to do that with the help of a small utility (Useful File Utility) is the name... with the other RAW converter i use... Bibble

Well, it is workflow software, true, but it's really focussed on image development. What you're proposing would necessarily make the primary focus be on the business angle, I suspect.
If you're talking about tools to help customers sit down and pick what they want for manual processing later, that's one thing - but going the rest of the distance to order processing and fulfillment would be out of scope, at least in my view. The reason is that there is just so much room for potential variation in how this gets conducted that I can't see how Adobe could possibly satisfy every pro with one implementation. Even just dealing with all of the possible payment vendors is a hugely problematic area.
I agree with Don; a third-party plugin via the upcoming SDK might be a distinct possibility, particularly if it were for a "plus services" solution in which the plugin were designed to work with a specific fulfillment vendor. THAT could work quite nicely, and the plugin might even be free (in return for giving the vendor your business, of course).
In other words, it's not that I see it as a bad idea, it's just that I don't think it belongs in the "core" of LR. This is something that is best dealt with using the SDK so that differences in processes can be allowed for.

CMYK images: strange monitor display & and printing

I tried the way Pages 2 handles CMYK images today and found out some strange things.
My problem: monitor display
CMYK .jpg files are displayed inverted on screen like a negative - black is white and white is black. Layouting basicly rendered useless. Is there a work arround ?
Solved: Printing
For printing there are at least two ways to get a decent result. Here my findings:
- Any color printers
"Print - ColorSync - Color Conversion" set to "Standard" => CMYK images get converted to RGB
"Print - ColorSync - Color Conversion" set to "Printer specific" => CMYK images stay in CMYK if printer is able to print CMYK
- use "Save to PDF" within printing dialog
Same as above, profiles tagged to images stay correct
- Adobe Acrobat Distiller
Same as above, but PDF looses recognizeable profile information. PDF workflow software does not recognize "SWOP" or "ISOcoated" by name but has "Embedded Adobe Postscript CRD Profile" instead which will create problems in workflow processing.
- Exporting "File - Export - PDF"
Profiles stay intact and are handled correctly.
Cube, PB 17" Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Thanks Noel for the reply. Hopefully this will help.
This is how the file should look like.
This is how the file usually displays.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Ron Cecil

Why is this the only place I can post a question?

Ditto my subject heading?
Really my question is about color space. How can you tell what color space an image is in (ie Adobe RGB or sRGB etc.)? I would like to at least see a description somewhere. I found and activated the metadata tabs for color space and color model, but the information that shows up makes no sense to me. For example an image that I believe to be sRGB show up only as:
Color Space: 1
Color Model: RGB
What does color space 1 mean?
Another example is an image that I believe to be Adobe RGB displaying only as Color Space: 65535
Color Model: RGB
I can find no clarity in any documentation.
Anybody know how to find the color space info in Aperture?
-Sol

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the color space in Aperture as with other 'capture'/RAW workflow software. This is a handy feature if you forget to set it to the color space you want on the camera pre-shoot and I would have expected this to be handled by Aperture too.

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