Y2K Info forum - Forte users in NZ/AUS please takenote

Hi All,
We're the distributors for Forte Software in Southern Africa. We'd like to
set up a communication forum for any Y2K issues surfacing at midnight on
31/12/1999. Since NZ and AUS are at least 8 hours ahead of us, these are the
Forte users we'd like to speak to. All we need is a telephone number and
e-mail address of someone monitoring a live Forte site at this time. We are
offering this as a goodwill service to our local customers, no revenue is
being generated from this.
We would greatly appreciate your assistance in this matter.
Kind regards
Michael van der Merwe
Technical Support
Objective Solutions (South Africa)
Tel : +27 (0) 11 775 2021 (Direct)
Tel : +27 (0) 11 790 2000 (Main)
Fax : +27 (0) 11 884 7470
Mobile : +27 (0) 83 292 1639
http://www.objective-solutions.co.za

Although you thought this may be late, I really am very thankful. We use 7.2 and finally havign a method to install this via command line is awesome. Here si the command I am using for our company. I will also post the changes I made to my nt.rsp file.
This is my install.bat
xcopy *.* "c:\adiinstall\" /e /h /y
cd c:\adiinstall\adi\3966101\ADI32BIT\FORWINNT\
start /wait ORAINST.EXE /silent /prd "c:\adiinstall\adi\3966101\ADI32BIT\FORWINNT\nt.prd" /rspsrc "c:\adiinstall\adi\3966101\ADI32BIT\FORWINNT\nt.rsp" /install winadi10,w32gldi90,w32adil30,w32adiqc30,wincgldi90,w32adicom30
start /wait ORAINST.EXE /silent /prd "c:\adiinstall\adi\p4239346\nt.prd" /rspsrc "c:\adiinstall\adi\3966101\ADI32BIT\FORWINNT\nt.rsp" /install winadi10,w32gldi90,w32adil30,w32adiqc30,wincgldi90,w32adicom30
xcopy c:\adiinstall\*.ora c:\orant\network\admin\ /Y
xcopy c:\adiinstall\*.ora c:\orant\net80\admin\ /Y
copy /Y c:\adiinstall\*.pdf "c:\Documents and Settings\all users\desktop"
copy "c:\adiinstall\Post Adi Install.bat" "c:\Documents and Settings\all users\desktop"
Here are the changes I made to nt.rsp. I am not even sure if I made the correct changes but my thoguht is as long as ADI works then it really does not matter.
language_content="English"
install_settings_content='Default
Let me know if anyone has any questions.

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  • RE: (forte-users) URL-based Config Info

    You can use xml over http to pass information between Forte and Java. You
    can use httpdc/httpsupport(Forte3.5) library to send and receive using http
    in Forte and use servlets in java.
    ka
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Lapeyre, Michael [mailto:Mike.LapeyreONSTAR.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:04 PM
    To: 'forte-userslists.xpedior.com'
    Subject: (forte-users) URL-based Config Info
    I am looking for a way to share run-time configuration information between
    Forté and Java processes, possibly running on different boxes (Solaris).
    Someone suggested we use an URL-based retrieval mechanism, or perhaps LDAP.
    Does anyone have any pointers on how to access such info from a Forté
    service object?
    Thanks,
    Mike Lapeyre
    EDS / OnStar
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    You can use xml over http to pass information between Forte and Java. You
    can use httpdc/httpsupport(Forte3.5) library to send and receive using http
    in Forte and use servlets in java.
    ka
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    Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:04 PM
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    Subject: (forte-users) URL-based Config Info
    I am looking for a way to share run-time configuration information between
    Forté and Java processes, possibly running on different boxes (Solaris).
    Someone suggested we use an URL-based retrieval mechanism, or perhaps LDAP.
    Does anyone have any pointers on how to access such info from a Forté
    service object?
    Thanks,
    Mike Lapeyre
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  • Re: (forte-users) Fusion for the VAR

    Hi,
    It is a good idea. In fact, I think that how Forte is
    going to integrate her own suite of app. too. ( I
    kind of recall that there is a speech on this topic in
    Forum ).
    However, as Forte will most likely goes toward Java, I
    would suggest that you take into account the
    abstraction on Conductor ( which is frankly an event
    broker ) and Fusion ( which handles the XML mapping )
    too. In doing so, you can save guard your investment
    on the design without binding tightly with FORTE and I
    bet there will be tons of event broker or XML parser
    in the future market.
    On the other hand, this integration by Fusion would be
    perfect for a perfect world. But, in this imperfect
    world, it would be hard to do cross-checking between
    apps in Fusion.
    In the old days, we repulicate data or do file
    transfer to integrate apps. In doing so, we also
    build-in all the cross-checking procedure / reports.
    In the case of Fusion, is there such a safety net to
    save guard data integrity. Can I identify a lost
    event and trace back to find out whether it is a app.
    problem or Conductor problem?
    I think the customer would surely like to know.
    Regards,
    Peter Sham.
    --- "Thomas Mercer-Hursh, Ph.D."
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    Fusion has been positioned as an EAI tool, something
    at which it appears to
    be very, very good, but in recent months I have been
    thinking about its
    possible role as an architectural tool for those of
    us who build large,
    multi-application suites of applications. Having
    been tossing some of
    these ideas around the halls at Harrison Street, I
    thought I would try some
    of them on this audience as well to see what
    reaction I got.
    This concept is based on the context that one has
    multiple interacting
    applications which are loosely coupled, or at least
    which should be. E.g.,
    an order processing application may need credit
    status information from an
    accounts receivable application and may generate
    invoices which then need
    to be tracked for payment by that application, but
    the connections between
    these applications are specific, limited, and
    readily enumerable. Mind
    you, people don't always build their applications so
    cleanly modularized,
    but I think we all agree these days that they should
    be.
    The idea is to provide each application with a
    specific API, which it may
    currently have only indirectly. I.e., today one
    might simply have calls
    directly from one application to another, but one
    would gather all these
    links together and define an API, probably in XML
    which covered all of the
    necessary communciations between applications.
    These would then be used to
    build a Fusion Proxy and one would build the
    necessary Conductor processes
    to handle the communications which previously might
    have been made directly
    between applications. There is probably some
    performance loss in this
    process, but many of these interfaces are not
    performance intensive and my
    bet is that if the whole Fusion concept has adequate
    performance for the
    purposes for which it is being primarily marketed,
    then it has the
    performance for this sort of usage.
    One would get several advantages from this
    structure:
    1) Interapplication communications would be handled
    by a Conductor process
    and thus be much more readily configurable than any
    hard-coded link.
    2) One would gain the ability to unplug one's own
    application and plug in a
    customer's application when the customer insisted on
    using something else.
    3) The discipline of working in this structure would
    insure clean boundries
    between applications, which is not only sound
    design, but promotes the
    flexibility of the overall suite.
    4) Those with untransitioned legacy applications
    would have a framework
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    applications to co-exist, thus
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    full product line was
    converted.
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    the individual
    applications so that they also used Conductor for
    managing their business
    process logic, but that seems to me to be an
    independent decision from this
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    Any added benefits I haven't covered here?
    Are there many out there that would benefit from
    this approach or just a few?
    Is anyone doing anything like this?
    Note that the one downside I have found so far is
    that Fusion licensing,
    independent of the Conductor aspect, is based on the
    number of proxies and
    so someone like CI who has 15 or more applications
    in a typical site is
    going to have 15 or more proxies. My bet is that
    this can be handled once
    it is clear that use of Fusion by a VAR for
    integrating own applications is
    not the same use as by an end-user integrating
    arbitrary multiple applications.
    =========================================================================
    Thomas Mercer-Hursh, Ph.D email:
    [email protected]
    Computing Integrity, Inc. sales:
    510-233-9329
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    510-233-9327
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    Yes, they do & one page is 1KB page. We use the same instrument to check
    memory usage & to send alerts in our production system.
    Thanks.
    Suraj
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Epari, Madhusudhan [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:37 PM
    To: 'Saraf, Suraj'; 'Forte User Forum'
    Subject: RE: (forte-users) Instrument for memory used in the partition
    Thanks all for the response. I observed "Allocated Pages" instrument doesn't
    change as and when memory usage by the partition changes. I was trying to
    find a way to measure the actual memory (specifically in bytes or KBs).
    Thanks,
    Madhu
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Saraf, Suraj [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 12:46 PM
    To: 'Epari, Madhusudhan'; 'Forte User Forum'
    Subject: RE: (forte-users) Instrument for memory used in the partition
    Hello,
    I think you can use 'OperatingSystem' service agent & check 'AllocatedPages'
    instrument to see how many memory pages are used. You can compare that with
    your maximum allocation & send alerts depending on that. Thanks.
    Suraj
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Epari, Madhusudhan [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:15 AM
    To: 'Forte User Forum'
    Subject: (forte-users) Instrument for memory used in the partition
    Hello Everyone,
    Is there an instrument to track the memory used in the partition at a given
    point of time. I have a requirement where an alert has to be generated in
    the environment when partition uses all its available memory.
    Thanks in advance,
    Madhu
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  • RE: (forte-users) Forte ADE

    In addition to this confusion, I'd like to see some statement by Forte to
    indicate
    WHEN the next Forte R4 is scheduled (before the Sun era is was said to be
    Summer 2000) and
    WHAT exactly it will contain (major headings will do).
    With the cancellation of the Forte Forum event doubt and uncertainty are
    spreading in the
    Forte communities that I talk with and no one seems to counterbalance these
    doubts with an
    official statement. How serious does Sun take TOOL Forte for the coming few
    years? Release
    of Fusion V2 seems to say "serious". The deafning silence with regard to R4
    indicates the
    opposite. And the users are divided (as always).
    Theo de Klerk
    Architecture & Application Integration
    Professional Services
    Compaq Computer Corp. - the Netherlands
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rottier, Pascal [mailto:Rottier.Pascalpmintl.ch]
    Sent: Tuesday, 18 April, 2000 17:49
    To: 'kamranaminyahoo.com'
    Subject: (forte-users) Forte ADE
    A long, long time ago
    In a galaxy far away....
    I saw a demonstration of Forte's new Application Development
    Environment,
    which was more userfriendly than the current one. It also looked more
    similar to the interface of the other development tools out
    there, with a
    tree structure and capabilities to browse through the
    inheritance tree, and
    not opening a new window for every project, class and method that is
    accessed.
    This new interface was supposed to be included in Forte 4, which would
    combine TOOL and Java and would be released soon.
    Since then, we've seen SynerJ and now FJEE, but Forte 4 is still not
    released. And when it will be released, it still won't
    support TOOL and Java
    simultaneously. That's OK. I understand that.
    But now I've heard that this improved ADE won't even be
    included in Forte 4.
    Is this true? And if so, why?
    Pascal
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    You may be interested in the following which comes from a statement of direction
    recently issued by Sun.
    Product Context
    + Fort&eacute; 4GL is an award-winning, proven product with many unique advantages for
    building
    enterprise business systems that are distributed, that involve the integration
    of existing
    business systems as well as new functionality, and that target heterogeneous
    runtime
    environments.
    + Fort&eacute; 4GL is recognized by Gartner Group as the most successful Enterprise
    Application
    Development Tool.
    + Forte 4GL has a substantial customer base that has been successful with the
    product and that
    looks forward to using Fort&eacute; 4GL for new applications.
    + The Sun Microsystems, Inc. (SMI) development tools group (formerly Fort&eacute;
    Software, Inc.)
    has a strong internal commitment to Fort&eacute; 4GL. Fort&eacute; Fusion is written with, and
    is currently
    being enhanced with Fort&eacute; 4GL.
    + SMI has retained the Fort&eacute; field sales organization as an independent unit
    whose primary
    product offerings are Fort&eacute; 4GL and Fort&eacute; Fusion. Continued volume sales of
    Fort&eacute; 4GL
    remain the foundation of our business plan.
    Product Future
    + We intend to actively enhance and promote Fort&eacute; 4GL for the indefinite
    future.
    + We believe Fort&eacute; 4GL will flourish in the long term, especially if we are
    able to harness the
    considerable selling power of the entire SMI field sales organization. To make
    the product
    more attractive and easier to sell, we will continue to make the product more
    modular and
    easier to integrate with heterogeneous software environments.
    + We believe that the best opportunity for attracting new customers is to
    leverage the ability of
    Fort&eacute; 4GL to easily build powerful shared business services (server components)
    that can be
    accessed by non-Fort&eacute; clients (e.g., browsers, Java clients) and that can easily
    integrate with
    new and existing business systems.
    + We believe that Fort&eacute; 4GL?s continued success is enhanced by continuing to
    issue small and
    frequent product releases. Our target is two such releases per year.
    + There is a great potential for our three product lines (Fort&eacute; 4GL, Fort&eacute;
    Fusion, and Fort&eacute; for
    Java) to complement and reinforce each other. Interoperability among the three
    product lines
    is seen as a critical success factor for Fort&eacute; 4GL.
    Forte 4GL Statement of Direction Page 2
    Sun Microsystems, Inc Proprietary and Confidential
    Product Priorities
    1. Interoperability with third party software components
    + External (non-4GL) client support (e.g., browsers, Java clients)
    + External server integration (e.g., messaging, component support, data
    exchange)
    2. Enhanced productivity
    + Increased automation (i.e., less coding)
    + Support for platform updates (e.g., new versions of OS, DBMS)
    3. TOOL code to Java code migration
    4. Unified developer look and feel with other Forte development products
    5. Common repository
    Short Term Product Plans
    Mid-year release
    + New features available as ?preview? per the standard Forte maintenance
    release procedures
    + Tentatively labeled ?release 3.5? and distributed as a free product
    enhancement for
    customers under maintenance
    + Scheduled for Summer 2000
    + Defining features
    + Introspection (reflection) ? the ability for an object to describe itself at
    runtime
    + Improved integration with applications developed using Fort&eacute;-for-Java
    Community
    Edition
    + Platform support improvements to track important operating system and
    database
    vendor activity
    + Target features
    + Display system enhancements (e.g., Motif 2 support, line arrowheads, window
    refresh control, editable outline fields)
    + Dynamic library loading
    + Improved CORBA/IIOP support
    + Improved XML and XSLT class support
    + JMQ support
    New year release
    + New features available as ?preview? per the standard Forte maintenance
    release procedures
    + Tentatively labeled ?release 3.6? and distributed as a free product
    enhancement for
    customers under maintenance
    + Scheduled for year end 2000
    + Defining features
    + Any Release 3.5 target features that were not included in 3.5
    + Generation of EJB interfaces for R3 service objects
    + Platform support improvements to track important operating system and
    database
    vendor activity
    + Target features
    + COBOL record handling as part of the OS390 transaction adaptor
    + Improved runtime security
    + Interface classes for access to Netscape Server 4.0 and possibly other web
    servers
    Long Term Product Plans
    + To be determined by customer and market feedback.
    + A major criterion for new functionality will be enhancing the revenue
    generating ability of
    the product, thereby fostering its long-term health in the marketplace.
    + Substantial emphasis will be placed on creating new capabilities that enhance
    the
    attractiveness of the product for new users.
    + The contents of Release 3.7 (or whatever it will be called) will be
    solidified just after release
    3.5 ships. Subsequent planning visibility will be two forward releases.
    "Klerk, Theo de" <Theo.de.Klerkcompaq.com> on 04/18/2000 12:27:36 PM
    To: "'Rottier, Pascal'" <Rottier.Pascalpmintl.ch>,
    "'kamranaminyahoo.com'" <kamranaminyahoo.com>
    cc: (bcc: Charlie Shell/Bsg/MetLife/US)
    Subject: RE: (forte-users) Forte ADE

  • Re: (forte-users) XML/HTTP clients

    Hi,
    As much as I know, DS Data Systems has done a Java client using http with Web
    Enterprise (from Web Designer). They have called it JDesigner (it was showed at
    the Forte Forum of San Francisco in May). I have myself experienced the use of
    External connections to make performance testings on Web Enterprise last
    summer. I used a Forte Client http to make an injector on port 80. It worked
    very well.
    For DHTML, I'm actually testing some solutions for "Outline field" and "menus".
    It works... It costs 8-10 ko for each script. But, it is really not easy to
    debug, to maintain, and you need different codes for each brower! Netscape is
    really unstable also. This may not be applicable with release 3 of IE and NS.
    You can find some good code samples on http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/
    But, it may be a good solution for Intranet and it should be possible to
    generate menus and outline from the HttpScanner as it is for DropLists for
    instance.
    Hope this helps,
    Daniel Nguyen
    Freelance Forte Consultant
    http://perso.club-internet.fr/dnguyen/
    Thomas Mercer-Hursh, Ph.D. a &eacute;crit:
    Does anyone out there have any experience, experimental or production, with
    using XML over HTTP instead of IIOP to communicate with non-Forte clients
    from R3 server components? If so, any pointers? Performance issues?
    Special problems? Recommendations?
    How about with using DHTML for the client compared to say Java?
    TIA
    =========================================================================
    Thomas Mercer-Hursh, Ph.D email: [email protected]
    Computing Integrity, Inc. sales: 510-233-9329
    550 Casey Drive - Cypress Point support: 510-233-9327
    Point Richmond, CA 94801-3751 fax: 510-233-6950
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    You can also use the HTTP-DC project.... You don't
    need Web Enterprise for this. From what I can tell,
    this is available in L.x on....
    There is api documentation in M.2 (with scant
    examples.)
    There's a special process to put the project in your
    repository (it isn't installed in the repository in
    the standard install,) the documentation in M.2
    (probably in M.0 too, AFAIK) that tells you how to do
    this (look for HTTP-DC in the online help.)
    I haven't done much with it yet, I've just installed
    it. If anybody out there has examples, that'd be
    great. I'll try to contribute more the moment I get a
    chance to explore it....
    Christopher Fury
    BellSouth Communications Systems
    --- Daniel Nguyen <dnguyenclub-internet.fr> wrote:
    Hi,
    If you have Web Enterprise, you can user
    HttpAccess.SendRequest().
    Hope this helps,
    Daniel Nguyen
    Freelance Forte Consultant
    Amin, Kamran a &eacute;crit:
    Is there any way to make a HTTP request from TOOLto another HTTP Service?
    thanks in advance.
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  • Re: (forte-users) Forte and CORBA question

    Hi,
    The discarding the Java variable that references a distributed Forte object
    doesn't cause that the distributed object will be reclaimed. In Forte client
    you can use ReleaseDistReference() of the current partition (task.part) to
    free the remote object. For Java client, you can implement the following
    solution:
    - define a method ReleaseMyObject() in the SO you are using to get the proxy
    to the dist. object. As parameter for it use something that can identify
    your object (attribute).
    - your SO has an array or hashtable with your distributed objects, every new
    object is added to it.
    - in the implementation of ReleaseMyObject() find the object to release in
    the array and call ReleaseDistReference() for it,
    - from the Java client, call the ReleaseMyObject() for the object that is
    not more needed.
    Regards,
    Zenon Adamek
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Joseph Mirwald <jomirweb.de>
    To: Dave Ortman <dortmanyahoo.com>; 'Forte User Forum'
    <forte-userslists.xpedior.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 3:58 PM
    Subject: Re: (forte-users) Forte and CORBA question
    Hello Dave,
    do you use a copy return or copy parameters in this method ?
    If not, then maybe Forte is unable to garbage-collect this object because
    it is forever
    a proxy which only the server-partition may be able to drop it from memory
    (object=NIL).
    Try this and let us know what happens.
    Hope this helps
    Joseph Mirwald
    At 11:49 07.03.01 -0800, Dave Ortman wrote:
    We're attempting to use a Java client to access a
    Forte server. In doing such, we've experienced a
    problem which I hoped somebody could shed some light
    on.
    We've had a Java client calling Forte service objects
    and passing Forte objects back and forth as CORBA
    structs with no problem. However, we have experienced
    some problem obtaining and using remote references to
    distributed objects from the Java client.
    The problem is memory utilization. Each time I obtain
    a reference to a new object, the memory utilization on
    the Forte server jumps up quite a bit (around 100k per
    object on an NT box). Eventually, if I fetch enough
    objects, the server will crash due to lack of memory.
    It seems that Forte never reclaims the memory, even
    though I'm not using (and don't have a handle to) this
    remote objects.
    The objects are very small. In fact, I created a test
    Forte SO with one method, getObject(); which returns a
    distributed object with a single attribute. I then
    have a Java client access the getObject() method
    repeatedly - discarding the reference to the object
    after each iteration. After a short while, the box
    will come down.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks in advance,
    -Dave Ortman
    --- "Epari, Madhusudhan" <meparioxhp.com> wrote:
    Hi All,
    Following error occurs consistently on a router
    partition for every call to
    the service object but the partition doesn't die or
    crash. I tried bumping
    up the partition memory too. Any thoughts on why
    it's happening?
    Thanks in advance,
    Madhu
    SYSTEM ERROR: Failed to connect or lost connection
    to the
    environment manager
    at FORTE_NS_ADDRESS = <Unknown>. Check that the
    environment
    manager is
    installed at that location. If it is, then check
    to be sure that
    there are
    enough system resources available to support this
    partition.
    Class: qqsp_SystemResourceException
    Error #: [601, 201]
    Detected at: qqdo_NsClient::FindObject at 1
    Error Time: Wed Feb 21 09:30:56
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition
    "CSA_cl0_Part2-router",
    (partitionId =
    C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c:0x1,
    taskId =
    [C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c.8]) in
    application
    "MWRouting_cl1", pid 18937 on node forted1 in
    environment
    frtedev.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Attempt to send from a partition
    (C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c:0x1)
    that no
    longer exists.
    Class: qqsp_DistAccessException
    Error #: [601, 111]
    Detected at: qqdo_PartitionMgr::SendMsg at
    1
    Error Time: Wed Feb 21 09:30:56
    Distributed method called:
    qqdo_NsServerProxy.FindObject
    (object name
    Unnamed) from partition
    "CSA_cl0_Part2-router",
    (partitionId =
    C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c:0x1,
    taskId =
    [C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c.8]) in
    application
    "MWRouting_cl1", pid 18937 on node
    forted1 in environment
    frtedev
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition
    "CSA_cl0_Part2-router",
    (partitionId =
    C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c:0x1,
    taskId =
    [C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c.8])
    in
    application "MWRouting_cl1", pid 18937 on
    node forted1 in
    environment
    frtedev.
    LbRouter::FindMembers - CAUGHT EXCEPTION attaching
    members from
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    Why not this:
    while myText.moveToString(' ') do
    myText.ReplaceRange('-', myText.Offset, myText.Offset+1);
    end while;
    or if you prefer verbosity:
    while myText.moveToString(source=' ') do
    myText.ReplaceRange(source='-', startOffset=myText.Offset,
    endOffset=myText.Offset+1);
    end while;
    -----Original Message-----
    From: FatchJeBAM.com [mailto:FatchJeBAM.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 2:51 PM
    To: Troy.Burnsvacationclub.com; kamranaminyahoo.com
    Subject: RE: (forte-users) search and replace within a TextData
    How about this?? May have to play with start/end on ReplaceRange as I
    didn't really test this
    Anybody got a better way??
    -- replace space with underscore
    For x in 1 to myTextdata.LengthToEnd() do
    If myTextData.IsSpace() then
    MyTextdata.ReplaceRange('_'. Startoffset=myTextdata.offset,
    endoffset=myTextdata.offset+1);
    End if;
    MyTextdata.MoveNext;
    End for;
    Jerry Fatcheric
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Burns, Troy [mailto:Troy.Burnsvacationclub.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 9:40 AM
    To: kamranaminyahoo.com
    Subject: (forte-users) search and replace within a
    TextData
    Hello all,
    I need to search within a textdata object, replacing all
    occurrances of a
    space
    with another character. Can you give a quick code example
    of how I would do
    this?
    Thanks in advance,
    Troy
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    Marriott Vacation Club Intl.
    E-mail: troy.burnsvacationclub.com
    Phone: (941) 688-7700 ext. 4408
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  • RE: (forte-users) Help on 'The class has been voided andcannot be insta

    PB Solved.
    The symtom was that my 'windows' plan that I distrubute call
    the StartMethod of a class defined higher in the hierarchy,
    and I had to specify that plan as direct supplier plan of my
    new project for the 'voided' not to happen.
    cheers
    j-p
    -----Message d'origine-----
    De: Jean-Paul Gabrielli [mailto:Jean-Paul.Gabriellisema.fr]
    Date: mercredi 5 juillet 2000 12:08
    &Agrave;: Klerk, Theo de
    Objet: RE: (forte-users) Help on 'The class has been voided and cannot
    be instanciated' plz
    the issue is as follows:
    I distribute a plan A
    I want to rename the plan,
    and create a plan B that has A as supplier.
    Distributing B wor'ks
    Running it fails with that issue.
    Actually I recreated supplierplans in B as they were defined in A,
    and the problem disappeared.
    thansk for your time
    j-paul
    -----Message d'origine-----
    De: Klerk, Theo de [mailto:Theo.de.Klerkcompaq.com]
    Date: mardi 4 juillet 2000 22:31
    &Agrave;: 'Jean-Paul.Gabriellisema.fr'
    Objet: RE: (forte-users) Help on 'The class has been voided and cannot
    be instanciated' plz
    Jean-Paul,
    It would help if you have a bit more description around thesituation when
    this error happens.
    Could it be you have two service objects that refer to each other
    while the
    partition is still starting up? (SO's are not supposed to talk to
    each other
    during partition startup).
    Or was the partition up and running?
    Has the service object been in existence and used before itbecame voided?
    Is the partition compiled or interpreted?
    Theo de Klerk
    Architecture & Application Integration
    Professional Services
    Compaq Computer Corp. - the Netherlands
    PGP Fingerprint: 5A70 DD56 F3BA FE04 9DCA 1ACE 8581 0A2F F057 FA6E
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jean-Paul Gabrielli [mailto:Jean-Paul.Gabriellisema.fr]
    Sent: Tuesday, 04 July, 2000 18:17
    To: Forte-Users
    Subject: (forte-users) Help on 'The class has been voided and
    cannot be
    instanciated' plz
    Hi,
    Here's the stack I get:
    SYSTEM ERROR: Failed to create service object
    BOS.MyServicesMgrSO.
    Class: qqsp_ResourceException
    Error Time: Tue Jul 4 18:05:07
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "BC_cl0_Part3",
    (partitionId =
    AF3B67A0-3335-11D4-BE9D-963C5A7FAA77:0x224, taskId =
    [AF3B67A0-3335-11D4-BE9D-963C5A7FAA77:0x224.6]) in application
    "BC_cl0", pid 10328 on node MyServerin environment
    CentralEnv.
    SYSTEM ERROR: The class MyServericesMgr has been voided and cannot
    be
    instantiated in this partition.
    Class: qqsp_UsageException with ReasonCode: SP_ER_INVALIDSTATE
    Error #: [201, 14]
    Detected at: qqlo_VoidedClassException at 1
    Error Time: Tue Jul 4 18:05:07
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition
    "BC_cl0_Part3",
    (partitionId =
    AF3B67A0-3335-11D4-BE9D-963C5A7FAA77:0x224, taskId
    =
    [AF3B67A0-3335-11D4-BE9D-963C5A7FAA77:0x224.6]) in
    application
    "BC_cl0", pid 10328 on node MyServer in
    environment
    CentralEnv.
    aud Tue Jul 4 18:05:07 : Shutting down partition due to
    failure of this
    partition.
    aud Tue Jul 4 18:05:07 : Shutting down partition as requested.
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    Hi Sylvain
    Try using window.smallIconImage =
    ImageData(<TitleBarIcon>.ImageValue) ;
    This should work.
    Jairaj Rampershad
    System Concultant
    --- Sylvain_Por&eacute;e <Sylvain.Poreesophia.sema.fr>
    wrote:
    Hi Forte Gurus,
    I have tried to set an icon using this statement :
    window.SmallIconImage =
    aIconFile.<TitleBarIcon>.imagevalue;
    where <TitleBarIcon> is a PictureGraphic in my
    window workshop.
    I have tried 16*16 16 colours as well as many other
    arrangements. It does
    not work. I use windows NT.
    Any ideas ?
    Thanks
    Sylvain
    PS : For info (forte help):
    SmallIconImage
    Data Type ImageData
    Source Class Window
    Settable? Yes
    The SmallIconImage attribute (ImageData) provides
    the small icon to be used
    when the window is iconized, for example, in the
    task bar. The image size
    for a small icon should be 16 by 16 pixels. Although
    the image will be
    scaled if you provide one of a different size, for
    best results, we
    recommend that you create your icons in the same
    size in which they will be
    displayed.
    Windows 95/NT only
    This feature is available on Windows 95/NT only. On
    other platforms, the
    attribute is ignored.
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  • Oggetto: Re: (forte-users) XML - ExportDocumentproblem

    Ok, I'll detail the question.
    The application I'm talking about is a Fort&egrave; server and a Java client (or other
    client platform).
    I have to send via HTTP a XML message to and from the two.
    I'm developing the Forte side (but think will have the same problems in Java).
    Since there could be lots of client sides developed by others teams (or given
    out to external suppliers) my concern is to send the message containing the DTD
    information to enforce the validation on the various application.
    Maybe you are right and I'm overcautious, but the messages are to be built
    following the various DTDs (and this is impossible aside starting from a xml
    template, since I cannot create a DTD runtime or insert a declaration <!DOCUMENT
    ...> ... I'll example:)
    doc : document = new();
    xml : processistruction = doc.createprocessistruction('xml version="1.0"');
    root : element = doc.createelement('root');
    dtd : ????? = doc.create??????(???);
    doc.addchild(xml);
    doc.appendchild(dtd);
    doc.addchild(root);
    All would be nice if I only know how to fill the ???
    This is needed because I want to use the parser to make the work for me and
    check the doc while I build it.
    Also since the DTD should be put on a url it could change and I need to send
    this info along with the message to inform the client (since I'm the server
    [suffering of multiple personality problem] I think is my duty).
    If I recall well DTD are meant to force the parser to create defaults and things
    like that.
    As I said I'm new of the problem and probabli I may use DTD in a wrong way, but
    Luca
    Matthew Middleton <mathew.middletonlawpoint.com.au> il 09/08/2000 01.03.16
    Per: forte-userslists.xpedior.com
    cc: (ccr: Luca Gioppo/CSI/IT)
    Oggetto: Re: (forte-users) XML - ExportDocument problem

    I went through the same process some time back. I
    submitted a call to Forte and was informed that there
    are hooks but they were intentionally undocumented
    because Forte had plans to provide a interface to
    Source Control Managers in future releases. If you
    submit a call, they will send you a ZIP file
    containing instructions on how to use the hooks. The
    hooks have proven very useful.
    --- Luca Gioppo <Luca.Gioppocsi.it> wrote:
    >
    >
    I think that the topic is still open and alive.
    In my case I have the need to integrate with PVCS
    dimension.
    The problem for me is that we develop both with java
    and tool, and is
    frustrating seeing java people smiling as tha
    various tools give the chance to
    integrate to various extends with source control
    products.
    I'm interested too in the problem, looking for a
    solution since a bit, but no
    satifactory solutions.
    So count 2 on the problem.
    Luca
    "David Potts" <david.pottss1.com> il 23/11/2000
    17.12.47
    Per: forte-userslists.xpedior.com
    cc: (ccr: Luca Gioppo/CSI/IT)
    Oggetto: (forte-users) Source Control
    Hello,
    I'm looking how to do version control for forte
    development, and have
    done a search on the list archive. There are lots
    of messages asking
    how to do source control, but the answers all seem
    to be "roll your
    own". My questions are:
    (1) Most of the postings seem to come from some
    years ago. What is the
    current state of play with source control for forte
    4GL?
    (2) There was some mention of "hooks". What are
    these hooks?
    (3) With Sun appearing on the scene, anyone got any
    idea where source
    control is going in future versions?
    I'm very new to Forte, so sorry if this topic has
    been closed.
    Cheers,
    Dave.
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  • Re: (forte-users) nested FORTE ITERATE tags in WebEnterprise

     

    Yes, they do & one page is 1KB page. We use the same instrument to check
    memory usage & to send alerts in our production system.
    Thanks.
    Suraj
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Epari, Madhusudhan [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:37 PM
    To: 'Saraf, Suraj'; 'Forte User Forum'
    Subject: RE: (forte-users) Instrument for memory used in the partition
    Thanks all for the response. I observed "Allocated Pages" instrument doesn't
    change as and when memory usage by the partition changes. I was trying to
    find a way to measure the actual memory (specifically in bytes or KBs).
    Thanks,
    Madhu
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Saraf, Suraj [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 12:46 PM
    To: 'Epari, Madhusudhan'; 'Forte User Forum'
    Subject: RE: (forte-users) Instrument for memory used in the partition
    Hello,
    I think you can use 'OperatingSystem' service agent & check 'AllocatedPages'
    instrument to see how many memory pages are used. You can compare that with
    your maximum allocation & send alerts depending on that. Thanks.
    Suraj
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Epari, Madhusudhan [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:15 AM
    To: 'Forte User Forum'
    Subject: (forte-users) Instrument for memory used in the partition
    Hello Everyone,
    Is there an instrument to track the memory used in the partition at a given
    point of time. I have a requirement where an alert has to be generated in
    the environment when partition uses all its available memory.
    Thanks in advance,
    Madhu
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  • RE: (forte-users) Distributing library - What could preventmy li b fro

    Hi Jean..
    I remotely remember seeing this kind of a problem before. I think you can
    start by cleaning your environment. You can do this by:
    1) Exporting your environment definition from econsole or using escript. The
    .edf file goes into the forte_root\envdist directory
    2) bringing down the environment.
    3) removing the .btd and.btx files of the environment in
    forte_root\sysdata\envrepos
    4) start the environment using bootstrap i.e using the -e option.
    Hope that solves it for you..
    Ravi Kalidindi
    Born Info Svcs Inc
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jean-Paul Gabrielli [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:04 AM
    To: '00 Forte Mailinglist'
    Subject: (forte-users) Distributing library - What could prevent my lib
    from being made ?
    (8) CMD: SetProjType 3
    (9) CMD: Partition 3
    USER ERROR: The project MYPROJ is already contained in version of
    application and cannot be placed into another library application.
    Class: qqsp_UsageException
    Error #: [1602, 562]
    Detected at: qqcf_LibraryConfig::SetProject at 1
    Error Time: Wed Sep 1 15:30:25
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "Fscript_cl9_Client",
    (partitionId = 4C0B7D30-6055-11D3-B8B3-2E3EAC99AA77:0x126:0x1, taskId
    =
    [4C0B7D30-6055-11D3-B8B3-2E3EAC99AA77:0x126:0x1.1]) in application
    "fscript", pid 18036 on node mynode in environment myenv.
    Thanks for any suggestion
    j-paul
    [Jean-Paul Gabrielli]
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    a subscriber and reposted.
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    Hi,
    I'm from germany so no 'best buy' but I think I will lock around sleeve/bag for a different product with same measures. Any tip?
    The clear plastic case is not what I want. I would like to use the player without such protections. I just want a sleeve to protect the player while its in my jacket/pants.
    Btw, i have bought this version: Creative Zen (maybe european version?). I also doesn't seem to have your mentioned sleeve. I also couldn't find it on the website.
    Anyway, thank you,
    Chris

  • RE: (forte-users) Minimizing a Window when it lossesfocus...

    This is an easy way of achieving what you want
    self.window.displaystate=DS_ICONIZED; -- minimise calling window
    ETUMainWin().display(); -- instanciate and pass modal
    control to new widow
    self.window.displaystate=DS_NORMAL; -- un-minimise calling window when
    sub-window closed
    Chris Will, DET, Sydney, Australia

    Hi Sylvain
    Try using window.smallIconImage =
    ImageData(<TitleBarIcon>.ImageValue) ;
    This should work.
    Jairaj Rampershad
    System Concultant
    --- Sylvain_Por&eacute;e <Sylvain.Poreesophia.sema.fr>
    wrote:
    Hi Forte Gurus,
    I have tried to set an icon using this statement :
    window.SmallIconImage =
    aIconFile.<TitleBarIcon>.imagevalue;
    where <TitleBarIcon> is a PictureGraphic in my
    window workshop.
    I have tried 16*16 16 colours as well as many other
    arrangements. It does
    not work. I use windows NT.
    Any ideas ?
    Thanks
    Sylvain
    PS : For info (forte help):
    SmallIconImage
    Data Type ImageData
    Source Class Window
    Settable? Yes
    The SmallIconImage attribute (ImageData) provides
    the small icon to be used
    when the window is iconized, for example, in the
    task bar. The image size
    for a small icon should be 16 by 16 pixels. Although
    the image will be
    scaled if you provide one of a different size, for
    best results, we
    recommend that you create your icons in the same
    size in which they will be
    displayed.
    Windows 95/NT only
    This feature is available on Windows 95/NT only. On
    other platforms, the
    attribute is ignored.
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  • Announcing the European Forte Users Meeting (EuroFORUM):16th-18th Novem

    ***Announcement of the EuroFORUM, November 16th to 18th 1997***
    This message is to announce the Forte' EuroFORUM, to be held in Birmingham ,England,
    between November 16th and 18th 1997. Please mark your calendars now!
    We will be sending out more information in the next few weeks, including official invitations and
    a call for papers. Please be patient with us as we bring this all together. This news is literally hot
    off the press. However, I am sending out this message now since we have
    already had quite a few calls from people around the world asking when it will take place.
    The general format of the event will be similar to the worldwide FORUM in San Francisco, including
    key note talks, customer talks, and technical talks to be given by Forte' employees. We also
    plan on having a partner exhibition centre, which will be run throughout the Euro FORUM.
    Please look for more information as we send it out. We are very much looking forward to the first ever
    European Forte' Users' Meeting!
    Best regards,
    Richard Kirk
    Product Marketing Manager
    Forte' Software Ltd.,
    Apex House,
    London Road,
    Bracknell, Berkshire RG12 2XH
    United Kingdom
    Tel: +44 7050 329521
    Fax: +44 1344 420905
    e-mail: [email protected]

  • RE: (forte-users) 3J= 3M new to me error

    Hi Thomas,
    Thanks for your email but I think it will be interesting for Brenda not me.
    It is exactly what I have expected from Forte Support: detailed information
    about bugs and workarounds. But what I cannot understand is that #53398 was
    released without any information about possible reasons for this problem or
    suggested workarounds. My first reaction after reading this bugreport was to
    open a new case at CallCenter to get more information about it. Please
    release more information with your bug reports !
    Regards
    Zenon Adamek
    Information Services
    Senior Programmer Analyst
    Tel: 905 712-1084 ext. 3628
    Fax: 905 712-6709
    E-mail: zadamekpurolator.com
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Thomas Degen - Sun Germany Forte Tools - Bonn
    [SMTP:thomas.degensun.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:49 AM
    To: Adamek, Zenon
    Cc: 'Brenda Cumming'; Forte-userslists.xpedior.com
    Subject: RE: (forte-users) 3J=>3M new to me error
    Hi Zenon,
    bug #53398 is not a bug which will likely get fixed, it's an informational
    bugreport.
    You might see an errorstack like Brenda has reported (and described in
    informational
    bugreport #53398) probably when you are doing something illegal that is
    possible
    via Forte Tool but Forte is not trapping it for performance reasons. Hence
    you will see
    the error coming from your illegal operation only at runtime, probably
    only
    while
    running interpreted in the Forte IDE, but in worst case it might be even a
    segmentation
    violation.
    Technotes 12448 'Sudden client partition crashes at runtime' and 11225
    'Don't reparent
    mapped Widgets between UserWindows at runtime' explain this matter . See
    attached.
    But maybe Brenda is much more experiencing a problem as described by Forte
    Technote 11398 'Read Only Workspace Errors using ListViews or ActiveX
    control'
    that might get easily resolved via setting of FORTE_YIELD_THROTTLE=0.
    Good Luck and Best Regards !
    BTW: I've logged bug #53398, so I've felt responsible to explain its real
    background.
    Thomas
    Thomas Degen
    Sun Microsystems - Forte Tools
    Forte CTE & Sustaining Group
    Technical Support Germany
    tel.:+49.228/91499-50
    MailTo:thomas.degensun.com
    Technote 11398 Read Only Workspace Errors using ListViews or ActiveX
    control
    SCENARIO:
    Getting some unusual interpreter errors that result in an error stating
    that
    the workspace has been set to read only. Please see Enclosures for the
    two
    most common error stacks that have been encountered. The abbreviated
    versions of the errors are:
    - Can't read record (record size = -1)
    - Id in index does not match id in record header in data file
    - Recursive deserialization attempted.
    - Unknown Mark type in deserialization
    - Could not read record (64,74615) from repository data file.
    Header
    is corrupt.
    These errors can be happening in either the development environment when
    running from one of the development workshops, or with the deployed
    application.
    The bug outlined in this Technote may be the culprit if the errors above
    are
    seen when running a client on Windows NT or Motif and the user interface
    incorporates ActiveX controls or ListView/TreeView widgets.
    CAUSE:
    Basically what is happening is that in rare circumstances Forte may invoke
    a
    nested copy of the interpreter while the first interpreter has yielded.
    This
    is not a problem in and of itself, but in the case where the original
    interpreter was in the middle of a repository fetch when it yielded, and
    the second interpreter needs to fetch code as well, we will get one of the
    errors listed above, depending on the exact timing. The reason for the
    errors is that the repository code at this level is thread-safe but not
    re-entrant. It is protected by a mutex that is already owned by the
    current task. Which, given the scenario outlined here, where the two
    interpreters are running inside of the same task, results in the nested
    interpreter being allowed to change data out from under the first.
    While for every fetch one or more calls to WindowSystem.Yield will be made
    (this is there to prevent the semblance of system lock-up on Win 3.1,
    where
    Yield is the only way other applications can be allowed to run), there is
    a parameter which controls how often to actually yield, which by default
    is
    set to one out of every 100 calls. This is the reason the problem is
    intermittent--you need a yield to occur during a repository fetch
    which starts another interpreter which also needs to fetch code from
    disk.
    The reason this has only surfaced recently is that the nested interpreter
    scenario can only happen in 2 cases that we know of:
    - ActiveX controls which respond to events/Windows messages
    - Outline fields/ListViews with column(s) mapped to virtual
    attributes
    In all other normal cases, the yield can process the message (typically a
    paint message) without starting another interpreter, so regardless of
    whether
    the first interpreter yielded during a repository operation or not, there
    is
    no conflict.
    SOLUTION:
    The workaround is to prevent yields altogether by setting the
    FORTE_YIELD_THROTTLE environment variable equal to 0 in the client's
    environment. This should have no detrimental effects since the yield code
    is in place solely for Windows 3.1x clients.
    ERROR STACK 1
    SYSTEM ERROR: Because of a prior error, your workspace was set to
    read-only to
    prevent the application from attempting to write to the repository. The
    repository and work you have saved to the repository are safe. If your
    workspace
    contains unsaved work, you may use the following procedure to save this
    work.
    First, export the changed components. Then, shut down and restart this
    application and reopen this workspace in read-write mode. Finally, import
    the
    changed components and save your workspace.
    Class: qqrp_RepResourceException
    Error #: [1101, 695]
    Detected at: qqrp_Session::GetObjectById
    Last TOOL statement: method EFWindowController.EFEventLoop
    Error Time: Tue Nov 18 15:58:47
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1,
    taskId =
    [7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1.23]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 147 on node ISD060 in environment EdgeTest.
    The remainder of the Error Manager stack is:
    SYSTEM ERROR: Internal Error attempting to deserialize element (64,67470)
    (fetch
    bitmask is 0x20). Your workspace is now read-only to prevent the
    application
    from attempting to write to the repository. The repository and work you
    have
    saved to the repository are safe. If your workspace contains unsaved work,
    you
    may use the following procedure to save this work. First, export the
    changed
    components. Then, shut down and restart this application and reopen this
    workspace in read-write mode. Finally, import the changed components and
    save
    your workspace.
    Class: qqrp_RepResourceException
    Error #: [1101, 61]
    Detected at: qqrp_LogicalSession::MaterializeObject
    Last TOOL statement: method EFTabManagerNew.EFNoteBookHandler
    Error Time: Tue Nov 18 15:58:47
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1,
    taskId =
    [7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1.23]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 147 on node ISD060 in environment EdgeTest.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Unknown Mark type in deserialization.
    Class: qqsp_ImplementationException
    Error #: [1101, 34]
    Detected at: qqrp_DeSerializeObject::ProcessHdr
    Error Time: Tue Nov 18 15:58:47
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1,
    taskId =
    [7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1.23]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 147 on node ISD060 in environment EdgeTest.
    ERROR STACK 2
    SYSTEM ERROR: A serious error has occurred in Repository
    (c:\PROGRA~1\CSSPTEST\conplu0). Corrective action may be necessary.
    Notify
    your repository administrator.
    Class: qqsp_ImplementationException
    Error #: [1101, 198]
    Detected at: qqrp_Repository::Fetch
    Last TOOL statement: method
    SalesDevelopment_NWC.DEVNotifyofTabSetCurrent
    Error Time: Wed Dec 03 10:27:22
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 769D4310-6B88-11D1-84FD-65BF87C8AA77:0x121:0x1,
    taskId =
    [769D4310-6B88-11D1-84FD-65BF87C8AA77:0x121:0x1.22]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 172 on node ISD42 in environment Edge.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Could not read record (64,74615) from repository data file.
    Header is corrupt.
    Class: qqsp_ImplementationException
    Error #: [1106, 612]
    Detected at: qqbt_BtreeAccess::FetchDataFileRecord
    Error Time: Wed Dec 03 10:27:22
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 769D4310-6B88-11D1-84FD-65BF87C8AA77:0x121:0x1,
    taskId =
    [769D4310-6B88-11D1-84FD-65BF87C8AA77:0x121:0x1.22]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 172 on node ISD42 in environment Edge.
    Technote 11225 Don't reparent mapped Widgets between UserWindows at
    runtime
    It is sometimes tempting to unparent a widget from one UserWindow and
    reparent
    it into another at runtime. However, this can cause crashes if the widget
    (or
    its decendants) are "mapped" to data. Here's why...
    Suppose you have two UserWindows, UW1 and UW2. UW1 contains a DataField
    (DF1)
    which is mapped to a TextData. UW2 contains a RadioList (RL2) which is
    mapped to
    a scalar Integer. At compile time, every mapped attribute is internally
    assigned
    a "Map ID" (a small integer) which is used to tie the Widget to its
    corresponding attribute. These Map IDs are used by the Widget to look up a
    pointer to their data in a "Map" which is maintained by the UserWindow.
    Each
    UserWindow is assumed be to independent of the others, so there is nothing
    wrong
    with Widgets in different UserWindows being assigned the same Map IDs.
    In
    this
    case, let's assume that DF1 and RL2 both got assigned the same Map ID of
    3. No
    problem so far, since each lives in a separate UserWindow with a separate
    map.
    Now suppose at runtime the application "detaches" or unparents DF1 from
    its
    UserWindow and reparents it somewhere into UW2. When it comes time for DF1
    to
    paint itself the Display System it must ask the Runtime System for the
    value of
    DF1's mapped attribute. To do that it says "give me the value of the
    TextData
    for DF1. You'll find it in the Map for this UserWindow (UW1), and its Map
    ID is
    3". When the runtime system goes to do this it expects to find a TextData
    in
    this "slot" of the map, but instead it picks up the integer which is
    mapped to
    RL2. At best this leads to bad data being returned; more likely you get a
    segfault and a crash.
    If DF1 was not a mapped attribute (say, a Rectangle) there would be no
    problem
    because there is no data mapped to a Rectangle. If instead of moving DF1
    you
    created a brand new DataField on the fly there would be no problem,
    because the
    dynamic DataField would not have any Map ID and so couldn't conflict with
    any
    IDs in UW2.
    So how do you solve this problem? This is exactly what Nested Windows are
    all
    about. While you can't move DF1 into the middle of UW2, you can nest
    UW1.
    This
    works because UW1 brings its map with it, and when you access DF1 it knows
    to
    look up its value in UW1's map.
    UserWindows are intended to be the "unit of compilabilty" that can be
    nested
    inside other UserWindows. It is dangerous to "transplant" anything from
    inside
    one UserWindow into another at runtime.
    (Note that you can't avoid this problem by cloning DF1 because the MapID
    gets
    copied along with it, and the clone will fail in the same way.)
    Further details explained in related technote 12448 'Sudden client
    partition
    crashes at runtime.'
    Technote 12448 Sudden client partition crashes at runtime
    Scenario : You have two UserWindows, A and B. When Window A starts up, it
    instantiates an instance of B and reparents some component of B into A's
    window
    hierarchy.
    This is not allowed and almost always leads to an error at best or at
    worse a
    segmentation fault.
    Here's why :
    When you compile a UserWindow in Forte, each "mapped attribute" (whether a
    form
    element or menu element) is assigned an internal ID which represents an
    offset into
    that UserWindow's table of mapped attributes. This offset is only valid
    in the
    context of the UserWindow in which it was compiled. If you detach a
    FieldWidget or
    MenuWidget from one compiled Window ("tmpMenu" for example) and then
    parent
    into another compiled window ("tmpWindow") the internal ID comes with it.
    When Forte tries to make use of that copied widget it uses the ID as an
    offset
    into tmpWindow's table of mapped attributes. But that copied offset is
    meaningless in the context of tmpWindow's table, so you get some kind off
    error.
    In this case it found that the data type of the variable in the slot
    wasn't
    what
    was expected. But you might even index off the end of the table and get a
    segmentation fault.
    There is nothing to prevent you from dynamically creating menu items and
    adding
    them to a window at runtime; that will work fine. Although of course you
    can't
    access them via mapped attributes, since those can only be created at
    compile time.
    But you are not allowed to reparent a widget from one compiled UserWindow
    into
    the hierarchy of another.
    More information may be found in technote 11225 'Don't reparent mapped
    Widgets
    between UserWindows at runtime'.
    Possible errorstacks seen at runtime instead of a complete crash or
    segmentation
    violation while you are illegally reparenting a widget or menuitem between
    windows
    at runtime:
    Map::SetSubjectData: Invalid conversion from map type 0 to subject type 22
    SYSTEM ERROR: Bad parameter at location 3 in method
    qqrt_MapClassAccess::ProcessSubjectData.
    Class: qqsp_Exception
    Error #: [1001, 381]
    Detected at: qqrt_MapClassAccess::ProcessSubjectData at 3
    Error Time: Wed Aug 09 13:03:57
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "testproject_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = D4914A10-36C1-11D4-91B3-419AA33BAA77:0x208:0xd,
    taskId =
    [D4914A10-36C1-11D4-91B3-419AA33BAA77:0x208:0xd.68]) in application
    "FTLaunch_cl0", pid 672 on node ONEWAY in environment Audi3M2Env.
    At 13:14 26.09.00 -0400, Adamek, Zenon wrote:
    Hi,
    It is the unfixed defect 53398. Please contact Forte support.
    Zenon
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Brenda Cumming [SMTP:brenda_cummingtranscanada.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 1:15 PM
    To: Forte User group
    Subject: (forte-users) 3J=>3M new to me error
    Hi,
    We are in the process of going from 3J1 to 3.0.M.2, and I am getting
    this error that I am unfamiliar with on a GUI that works fine in 3J.
    It
    does not happen all the time, and I have been unable to establish the
    pattern that kicks it off. Has anyone seen this before?
    PS- this error is not occurring in the deployed (non-compiled) app,but
    when I am running locally from my workspace.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Bad parameter at location 6 in method
    qqrt_MapClassAccess::ProcessSubjectData.
    Class: qqsp_Exception
    Error #: [1001, 381]
    Detected at: qqrt_MapClassAccess::ProcessSubjectData at 6
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition
    "ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2,
    taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Can't find scope 20070 for a class.
    Class: qqsp_Exception
    Error #: [201, 11]
    Detected at: qqlo_ClassTableLoadScope at 1
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition"ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2, taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Because of a prior error, your workspace was set to
    read-only to prevent the application from attempting to write to the repository.
    The repository and work you have saved to the repository are safe. If
    your
    workspace contains unsaved work, you may use the following procedure
    to save this work. First, export the changed components. Then, shut down and
    restart this application and reopen this workspace in read-write mode.
    Finally, import the changed components and save your workspace.
    Class: qqrp_RepResourceException
    Error #: [1101, 695]
    Detected at: qqrp_Session::IsDistributed
    Last TOOL statement: method PPMeasWin.
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition
    "ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2, taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Internal Error attempting to deserialize element
    (64,120684) (fetch bitmask is 0x20). Your workspace is now read-onlyto
    prevent
    the application from attempting to write to the repository. The
    repository
    and work you have saved to the repository are safe. If your workspace
    contains unsaved work, you may use the following procedure to savethis
    work.
    First, export the changed components. Then, shut down and restart this
    application and reopen this workspace in read-write mode. Finally, import the
    changed components and save your workspace.
    Class: qqrp_RepResourceException
    Error #: [1101, 61]
    Detected at: qqrp_LogicalSession::MaterializeObject
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition
    "ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2, taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Recursive Deserialization attempted, Internal Error!
    Class: qqsp_UsageException with ReasonCode: SP_ER_INVALIDSTATE
    Error #: [301, 231]
    Detected at: qqsp_DeSerializeDriver::Run at 1
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition"ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2, taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
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    Hi Thomas,
    Thanks for your email but I think it will be interesting for Brenda not me.
    It is exactly what I have expected from Forte Support: detailed information
    about bugs and workarounds. But what I cannot understand is that #53398 was
    released without any information about possible reasons for this problem or
    suggested workarounds. My first reaction after reading this bugreport was to
    open a new case at CallCenter to get more information about it. Please
    release more information with your bug reports !
    Regards
    Zenon Adamek
    Information Services
    Senior Programmer Analyst
    Tel: 905 712-1084 ext. 3628
    Fax: 905 712-6709
    E-mail: zadamekpurolator.com
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Thomas Degen - Sun Germany Forte Tools - Bonn
    [SMTP:thomas.degensun.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 9:49 AM
    To: Adamek, Zenon
    Cc: 'Brenda Cumming'; Forte-userslists.xpedior.com
    Subject: RE: (forte-users) 3J=>3M new to me error
    Hi Zenon,
    bug #53398 is not a bug which will likely get fixed, it's an informational
    bugreport.
    You might see an errorstack like Brenda has reported (and described in
    informational
    bugreport #53398) probably when you are doing something illegal that is
    possible
    via Forte Tool but Forte is not trapping it for performance reasons. Hence
    you will see
    the error coming from your illegal operation only at runtime, probably
    only
    while
    running interpreted in the Forte IDE, but in worst case it might be even a
    segmentation
    violation.
    Technotes 12448 'Sudden client partition crashes at runtime' and 11225
    'Don't reparent
    mapped Widgets between UserWindows at runtime' explain this matter . See
    attached.
    But maybe Brenda is much more experiencing a problem as described by Forte
    Technote 11398 'Read Only Workspace Errors using ListViews or ActiveX
    control'
    that might get easily resolved via setting of FORTE_YIELD_THROTTLE=0.
    Good Luck and Best Regards !
    BTW: I've logged bug #53398, so I've felt responsible to explain its real
    background.
    Thomas
    Thomas Degen
    Sun Microsystems - Forte Tools
    Forte CTE & Sustaining Group
    Technical Support Germany
    tel.:+49.228/91499-50
    MailTo:thomas.degensun.com
    Technote 11398 Read Only Workspace Errors using ListViews or ActiveX
    control
    SCENARIO:
    Getting some unusual interpreter errors that result in an error stating
    that
    the workspace has been set to read only. Please see Enclosures for the
    two
    most common error stacks that have been encountered. The abbreviated
    versions of the errors are:
    - Can't read record (record size = -1)
    - Id in index does not match id in record header in data file
    - Recursive deserialization attempted.
    - Unknown Mark type in deserialization
    - Could not read record (64,74615) from repository data file.
    Header
    is corrupt.
    These errors can be happening in either the development environment when
    running from one of the development workshops, or with the deployed
    application.
    The bug outlined in this Technote may be the culprit if the errors above
    are
    seen when running a client on Windows NT or Motif and the user interface
    incorporates ActiveX controls or ListView/TreeView widgets.
    CAUSE:
    Basically what is happening is that in rare circumstances Forte may invoke
    a
    nested copy of the interpreter while the first interpreter has yielded.
    This
    is not a problem in and of itself, but in the case where the original
    interpreter was in the middle of a repository fetch when it yielded, and
    the second interpreter needs to fetch code as well, we will get one of the
    errors listed above, depending on the exact timing. The reason for the
    errors is that the repository code at this level is thread-safe but not
    re-entrant. It is protected by a mutex that is already owned by the
    current task. Which, given the scenario outlined here, where the two
    interpreters are running inside of the same task, results in the nested
    interpreter being allowed to change data out from under the first.
    While for every fetch one or more calls to WindowSystem.Yield will be made
    (this is there to prevent the semblance of system lock-up on Win 3.1,
    where
    Yield is the only way other applications can be allowed to run), there is
    a parameter which controls how often to actually yield, which by default
    is
    set to one out of every 100 calls. This is the reason the problem is
    intermittent--you need a yield to occur during a repository fetch
    which starts another interpreter which also needs to fetch code from
    disk.
    The reason this has only surfaced recently is that the nested interpreter
    scenario can only happen in 2 cases that we know of:
    - ActiveX controls which respond to events/Windows messages
    - Outline fields/ListViews with column(s) mapped to virtual
    attributes
    In all other normal cases, the yield can process the message (typically a
    paint message) without starting another interpreter, so regardless of
    whether
    the first interpreter yielded during a repository operation or not, there
    is
    no conflict.
    SOLUTION:
    The workaround is to prevent yields altogether by setting the
    FORTE_YIELD_THROTTLE environment variable equal to 0 in the client's
    environment. This should have no detrimental effects since the yield code
    is in place solely for Windows 3.1x clients.
    ERROR STACK 1
    SYSTEM ERROR: Because of a prior error, your workspace was set to
    read-only to
    prevent the application from attempting to write to the repository. The
    repository and work you have saved to the repository are safe. If your
    workspace
    contains unsaved work, you may use the following procedure to save this
    work.
    First, export the changed components. Then, shut down and restart this
    application and reopen this workspace in read-write mode. Finally, import
    the
    changed components and save your workspace.
    Class: qqrp_RepResourceException
    Error #: [1101, 695]
    Detected at: qqrp_Session::GetObjectById
    Last TOOL statement: method EFWindowController.EFEventLoop
    Error Time: Tue Nov 18 15:58:47
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1,
    taskId =
    [7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1.23]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 147 on node ISD060 in environment EdgeTest.
    The remainder of the Error Manager stack is:
    SYSTEM ERROR: Internal Error attempting to deserialize element (64,67470)
    (fetch
    bitmask is 0x20). Your workspace is now read-only to prevent the
    application
    from attempting to write to the repository. The repository and work you
    have
    saved to the repository are safe. If your workspace contains unsaved work,
    you
    may use the following procedure to save this work. First, export the
    changed
    components. Then, shut down and restart this application and reopen this
    workspace in read-write mode. Finally, import the changed components and
    save
    your workspace.
    Class: qqrp_RepResourceException
    Error #: [1101, 61]
    Detected at: qqrp_LogicalSession::MaterializeObject
    Last TOOL statement: method EFTabManagerNew.EFNoteBookHandler
    Error Time: Tue Nov 18 15:58:47
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1,
    taskId =
    [7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1.23]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 147 on node ISD060 in environment EdgeTest.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Unknown Mark type in deserialization.
    Class: qqsp_ImplementationException
    Error #: [1101, 34]
    Detected at: qqrp_DeSerializeObject::ProcessHdr
    Error Time: Tue Nov 18 15:58:47
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1,
    taskId =
    [7EFAE060-4AFA-11D1-A1C1-1FDC8A99AA77:0x446:0x1.23]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 147 on node ISD060 in environment EdgeTest.
    ERROR STACK 2
    SYSTEM ERROR: A serious error has occurred in Repository
    (c:\PROGRA~1\CSSPTEST\conplu0). Corrective action may be necessary.
    Notify
    your repository administrator.
    Class: qqsp_ImplementationException
    Error #: [1101, 198]
    Detected at: qqrp_Repository::Fetch
    Last TOOL statement: method
    SalesDevelopment_NWC.DEVNotifyofTabSetCurrent
    Error Time: Wed Dec 03 10:27:22
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 769D4310-6B88-11D1-84FD-65BF87C8AA77:0x121:0x1,
    taskId =
    [769D4310-6B88-11D1-84FD-65BF87C8AA77:0x121:0x1.22]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 172 on node ISD42 in environment Edge.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Could not read record (64,74615) from repository data file.
    Header is corrupt.
    Class: qqsp_ImplementationException
    Error #: [1106, 612]
    Detected at: qqbt_BtreeAccess::FetchDataFileRecord
    Error Time: Wed Dec 03 10:27:22
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "ConPlus_GUI_cl0_Client",
    (partitionId = 769D4310-6B88-11D1-84FD-65BF87C8AA77:0x121:0x1,
    taskId =
    [769D4310-6B88-11D1-84FD-65BF87C8AA77:0x121:0x1.22]) in application
    "ConPlus_GUI_cl0", pid 172 on node ISD42 in environment Edge.
    Technote 11225 Don't reparent mapped Widgets between UserWindows at
    runtime
    It is sometimes tempting to unparent a widget from one UserWindow and
    reparent
    it into another at runtime. However, this can cause crashes if the widget
    (or
    its decendants) are "mapped" to data. Here's why...
    Suppose you have two UserWindows, UW1 and UW2. UW1 contains a DataField
    (DF1)
    which is mapped to a TextData. UW2 contains a RadioList (RL2) which is
    mapped to
    a scalar Integer. At compile time, every mapped attribute is internally
    assigned
    a "Map ID" (a small integer) which is used to tie the Widget to its
    corresponding attribute. These Map IDs are used by the Widget to look up a
    pointer to their data in a "Map" which is maintained by the UserWindow.
    Each
    UserWindow is assumed be to independent of the others, so there is nothing
    wrong
    with Widgets in different UserWindows being assigned the same Map IDs.
    In
    this
    case, let's assume that DF1 and RL2 both got assigned the same Map ID of
    3. No
    problem so far, since each lives in a separate UserWindow with a separate
    map.
    Now suppose at runtime the application "detaches" or unparents DF1 from
    its
    UserWindow and reparents it somewhere into UW2. When it comes time for DF1
    to
    paint itself the Display System it must ask the Runtime System for the
    value of
    DF1's mapped attribute. To do that it says "give me the value of the
    TextData
    for DF1. You'll find it in the Map for this UserWindow (UW1), and its Map
    ID is
    3". When the runtime system goes to do this it expects to find a TextData
    in
    this "slot" of the map, but instead it picks up the integer which is
    mapped to
    RL2. At best this leads to bad data being returned; more likely you get a
    segfault and a crash.
    If DF1 was not a mapped attribute (say, a Rectangle) there would be no
    problem
    because there is no data mapped to a Rectangle. If instead of moving DF1
    you
    created a brand new DataField on the fly there would be no problem,
    because the
    dynamic DataField would not have any Map ID and so couldn't conflict with
    any
    IDs in UW2.
    So how do you solve this problem? This is exactly what Nested Windows are
    all
    about. While you can't move DF1 into the middle of UW2, you can nest
    UW1.
    This
    works because UW1 brings its map with it, and when you access DF1 it knows
    to
    look up its value in UW1's map.
    UserWindows are intended to be the "unit of compilabilty" that can be
    nested
    inside other UserWindows. It is dangerous to "transplant" anything from
    inside
    one UserWindow into another at runtime.
    (Note that you can't avoid this problem by cloning DF1 because the MapID
    gets
    copied along with it, and the clone will fail in the same way.)
    Further details explained in related technote 12448 'Sudden client
    partition
    crashes at runtime.'
    Technote 12448 Sudden client partition crashes at runtime
    Scenario : You have two UserWindows, A and B. When Window A starts up, it
    instantiates an instance of B and reparents some component of B into A's
    window
    hierarchy.
    This is not allowed and almost always leads to an error at best or at
    worse a
    segmentation fault.
    Here's why :
    When you compile a UserWindow in Forte, each "mapped attribute" (whether a
    form
    element or menu element) is assigned an internal ID which represents an
    offset into
    that UserWindow's table of mapped attributes. This offset is only valid
    in the
    context of the UserWindow in which it was compiled. If you detach a
    FieldWidget or
    MenuWidget from one compiled Window ("tmpMenu" for example) and then
    parent
    into another compiled window ("tmpWindow") the internal ID comes with it.
    When Forte tries to make use of that copied widget it uses the ID as an
    offset
    into tmpWindow's table of mapped attributes. But that copied offset is
    meaningless in the context of tmpWindow's table, so you get some kind off
    error.
    In this case it found that the data type of the variable in the slot
    wasn't
    what
    was expected. But you might even index off the end of the table and get a
    segmentation fault.
    There is nothing to prevent you from dynamically creating menu items and
    adding
    them to a window at runtime; that will work fine. Although of course you
    can't
    access them via mapped attributes, since those can only be created at
    compile time.
    But you are not allowed to reparent a widget from one compiled UserWindow
    into
    the hierarchy of another.
    More information may be found in technote 11225 'Don't reparent mapped
    Widgets
    between UserWindows at runtime'.
    Possible errorstacks seen at runtime instead of a complete crash or
    segmentation
    violation while you are illegally reparenting a widget or menuitem between
    windows
    at runtime:
    Map::SetSubjectData: Invalid conversion from map type 0 to subject type 22
    SYSTEM ERROR: Bad parameter at location 3 in method
    qqrt_MapClassAccess::ProcessSubjectData.
    Class: qqsp_Exception
    Error #: [1001, 381]
    Detected at: qqrt_MapClassAccess::ProcessSubjectData at 3
    Error Time: Wed Aug 09 13:03:57
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition "testproject_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = D4914A10-36C1-11D4-91B3-419AA33BAA77:0x208:0xd,
    taskId =
    [D4914A10-36C1-11D4-91B3-419AA33BAA77:0x208:0xd.68]) in application
    "FTLaunch_cl0", pid 672 on node ONEWAY in environment Audi3M2Env.
    At 13:14 26.09.00 -0400, Adamek, Zenon wrote:
    Hi,
    It is the unfixed defect 53398. Please contact Forte support.
    Zenon
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Brenda Cumming [SMTP:brenda_cummingtranscanada.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 1:15 PM
    To: Forte User group
    Subject: (forte-users) 3J=>3M new to me error
    Hi,
    We are in the process of going from 3J1 to 3.0.M.2, and I am getting
    this error that I am unfamiliar with on a GUI that works fine in 3J.
    It
    does not happen all the time, and I have been unable to establish the
    pattern that kicks it off. Has anyone seen this before?
    PS- this error is not occurring in the deployed (non-compiled) app,but
    when I am running locally from my workspace.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Bad parameter at location 6 in method
    qqrt_MapClassAccess::ProcessSubjectData.
    Class: qqsp_Exception
    Error #: [1001, 381]
    Detected at: qqrt_MapClassAccess::ProcessSubjectData at 6
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition
    "ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2,
    taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Can't find scope 20070 for a class.
    Class: qqsp_Exception
    Error #: [201, 11]
    Detected at: qqlo_ClassTableLoadScope at 1
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition"ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2, taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Because of a prior error, your workspace was set to
    read-only to prevent the application from attempting to write to the repository.
    The repository and work you have saved to the repository are safe. If
    your
    workspace contains unsaved work, you may use the following procedure
    to save this work. First, export the changed components. Then, shut down and
    restart this application and reopen this workspace in read-write mode.
    Finally, import the changed components and save your workspace.
    Class: qqrp_RepResourceException
    Error #: [1101, 695]
    Detected at: qqrp_Session::IsDistributed
    Last TOOL statement: method PPMeasWin.
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition
    "ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2, taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Internal Error attempting to deserialize element
    (64,120684) (fetch bitmask is 0x20). Your workspace is now read-onlyto
    prevent
    the application from attempting to write to the repository. The
    repository
    and work you have saved to the repository are safe. If your workspace
    contains unsaved work, you may use the following procedure to savethis
    work.
    First, export the changed components. Then, shut down and restart this
    application and reopen this workspace in read-write mode. Finally, import the
    changed components and save your workspace.
    Class: qqrp_RepResourceException
    Error #: [1101, 61]
    Detected at: qqrp_LogicalSession::MaterializeObject
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition
    "ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2, taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
    SYSTEM ERROR: Recursive Deserialization attempted, Internal Error!
    Class: qqsp_UsageException with ReasonCode: SP_ER_INVALIDSTATE
    Error #: [301, 231]
    Detected at: qqsp_DeSerializeDriver::Run at 1
    Error Time: Wed Sep 20 14:32:54
    Exception occurred (locally) on partition"ABSDevtStartUp_CL0_Client",
    (partitionId = 36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2, taskId =
    [36172000-5DA8-11D4-B1F0-14015EDAAA77:0x2da:0x2.25]) in
    application
    "Forte_cl0", pid 93 on node T5621 in environment AbisDMEnv.
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