Zen Vision:M ID3 T

Hello all ...
Just recently got a Vision:M and like it.
I had a Zen Micro for almost 2 years and no trouble then it froze up. I had replacement at Best Buy, but they no longer carried the Micro, so we moved up.
Anyway, I am having some problems with ID3 tags. Some of them show up as jibberish in the Artist field (looks like Japanese or something like that), along with I guess to be binary zeros.
I have several Tag editors, but there is some comfusion as to what to use or fix.
Can someone tell me with certainty what the Vision:M uses, ID3v or ID3v2 (or is there something else).
I never had any trouble with my music on the Zen Micro, so the Vision:M must be checking some other tags.
I'd like to go through my music and fix the tags, but need to make sure which ones I should be using for the Vision:M
Any help would be appreciated.
Are there any suggestions for a good description of the tags anywhere?
Any thoughts?
Thanks ...
Bob

I'm not sure if this will help you but generally ID3v tags are more compatible while ID3v2 are more flexible meaning you get more options as what you want in your tags. So I would go with ID3v to be on the safe side.

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Zen Vision:M ID3 tags being transered to compu

I always update my artist/titles/albums on the Zen Vision Media Explorer. When i transfer files back to my computer they don't keep there tags that i put in. Is there any way to transfer files to my computer while keeping the players tags?

I'm not sure if this will help you but generally ID3v tags are more compatible while ID3v2 are more flexible meaning you get more options as what you want in your tags. So I would go with ID3v to be on the safe side.

Zen Vision:M 60GB firmware: NEEDS 'Disc Number' tag supp

The Creative Zen Vision:M 60GB firmware (.20.02e) does not recognise the 'Disc Number' part of ID3 tags.
This is VERY annoying as albums made up of more than one CD do not play in the correct order (they play in order of 'Track Number', e.g. ",,,,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4,5,5" etc). I do not want to go through my collection separating these large albums into a messy bunch of single discs.
This seems like a simple firmware issue: please update it!

jjwood,
Although I can understand the situation, please refrain from using bad language which is uncalled for. In any case, if the player is still having problem despite attempt at rescue mode, then contact Customer Support for service. If the store where you purchase the product allow exchanges, it maybe faster to be done through them.
Jason

Album Art in Zen Vision M / How did you do

This question is for those of you who have actually gotten the Album Art to show up in the Zen Vision M.
I have been trying to figure it out for 3 days straight and I need some serious. My firmware version is .0.0 is this the right firmware?
I have made an attempt with WMP 0 using the Advanced Tag Edit, and I can get the Album Art to show up in WMP "Now Playing" tab, but when I sync to my Vision M, the album art does not transfer into it. I have tried, manually dropping the album art in several directories, the root / album / and photo directories but the album art does not appear.
I have even tried RealPlayer and a few Album Art programs on this message board and I get the same results.
So can someone provide me some set by step instructions or give me a link to where those intructions might be?

Hello all:
I have an idea for those who are looking to add album art:
I have yet to see if it works with the Vision:M (mine will be here next week), but I used mediamonkey to add album art to my mp3 catalog (,200+ songs). Its easy to do and you can add art to an entire album of songs at one time. It uses Amazon's database for album art. As long as you have things properly tagged its completely automated (It took me ~.5 hours to ad album art to my entire collection). It will also ask you if you want the picture to be embedded in the id3 tag (which as far as I know you do for the Vision:M). Finally, mediamonkey is a great Mp3 management tool. Its free and you can get it at www.mediamonkey.com.
John

Zen Vision:M - How do you transfer files directly from Zen V:M 30GB to Zen V:M 6

I just bought a 60 GB Zen Vision:M to replace my 30 GB model. Does anyone know how I can copy my files from the old player to the new player directly without having to put them on my PC? I read the manual and played around with the Creative Media Explorer and Windows Media Player, but it's not apparent to me.
Thanks!

Hello all:
I have an idea for those who are looking to add album art:
I have yet to see if it works with the Vision:M (mine will be here next week), but I used mediamonkey to add album art to my mp3 catalog (,200+ songs). Its easy to do and you can add art to an entire album of songs at one time. It uses Amazon's database for album art. As long as you have things properly tagged its completely automated (It took me ~.5 hours to ad album art to my entire collection). It will also ask you if you want the picture to be embedded in the id3 tag (which as far as I know you do for the Vision:M). Finally, mediamonkey is a great Mp3 management tool. Its free and you can get it at www.mediamonkey.com.
John

Zen Vision:M questions before purch

Firstly, thanks in advance for all your time and feedback.
I am in the market for a new MP3 player. I want a hard dri've based one and have been looking at the Creative line. I've owned an iRi'ver iH-40 that I really liked, till it died (pre-color screen model). I've also had a 60GB iPod, but I absolutely hate iTunes and do not like being forced to use a proprietary program to manage my music.
I really like WinAmp and Media Monkey. I want a player that will just plug-n-play with Windows XP and I can use these applications or plain old Windows Explorer to move files. I wouldn't mind if it acted as an additional hard dri've as well, but not a requirement. The device MUST also support M3U playlists.
I've been looking at the Creative line, specifically the new Creative Zen Vision:M. Does the Vison:M support the things I am wanting as listed above?
Should I consider any other model from Creative?
Thanks!

Hey,
Well there is a new firmware called Play For Sure which allows some interaction with Explorer with dragging and dropping, though alot of things need to be implemented like copy and paste, and being able to drag and drop files once copied to the device.
So it isnt as easy or fast as I'd like to copy tracks, though it allows implementation with Windows Media Player for fast copying to the device.
So you can use the drag and drop tool (without having to install creative software) but make sure before dragging files, to have all the ID data of mp3 tracks already set up so it can be just a straight copy.
If you wanted to change data like ID3 tracks once on the player, you'd need to use the Creative Software I'm afraid.
M3U
I'm not too sure on this, but I think Creative uses its own playlist format created within the player or using the software.
DATA:
It can carry data as well, as you can format the dri've to be used for data which will appear as a standard USB disc allowing full Explorer menus to copy data on. This won't be seen on the player itself though, including pictures and photos.
Its a great player though, and once you have the music on the device, its just fantastic to listen to, and a load of features to boot.
I'd go for it if I werre you, as its definitely the best player out there today.Message Edited by flame on 02-0-2006 09:4 PM

Backing up playlists in Zen Vision M?

So I have a Zen Vision M, and have ended up with a wide variety of duplicated tracks on the device. I've decided, at this point, that it would be simpler to delete everything and copy them back over from my computer. However, I am afraid this will mess up my playlists, which I would rather not re-create. So I am wondering, is there some way I can back up my playlists on my computer?
Thanks!
Kaiti

Hello all:
I have an idea for those who are looking to add album art:
I have yet to see if it works with the Vision:M (mine will be here next week), but I used mediamonkey to add album art to my mp3 catalog (,200+ songs). Its easy to do and you can add art to an entire album of songs at one time. It uses Amazon's database for album art. As long as you have things properly tagged its completely automated (It took me ~.5 hours to ad album art to my entire collection). It will also ask you if you want the picture to be embedded in the id3 tag (which as far as I know you do for the Vision:M). Finally, mediamonkey is a great Mp3 management tool. Its free and you can get it at www.mediamonkey.com.
John

.: ReplayGain :. is supported in zen vision:m

Hi,
have creative players - zen vision:m support for replay gain tags ?
if no CREATIVE pleease add this optiom to futhure firmware upgrade
i like implementation and function of replay gain in:
foobar2000 http://www.foobar2000.org/
squeezbox 3 http://www.slimdevices.com/
Ciki,.

Hello all:
I have an idea for those who are looking to add album art:
I have yet to see if it works with the Vision:M (mine will be here next week), but I used mediamonkey to add album art to my mp3 catalog (,200+ songs). Its easy to do and you can add art to an entire album of songs at one time. It uses Amazon's database for album art. As long as you have things properly tagged its completely automated (It took me ~.5 hours to ad album art to my entire collection). It will also ask you if you want the picture to be embedded in the id3 tag (which as far as I know you do for the Vision:M). Finally, mediamonkey is a great Mp3 management tool. Its free and you can get it at www.mediamonkey.com.
John

Zen Vision M vs iPod 3

Which one is better? Alot of the features are similar. I don't know which one to get. Pros and Cons?

Took this from my older post..........
Hi there,
Here are some things that you might like over the ipod:
*TV out screen resolution (twice the resolution), can use VidX at near-DVD res.
*Colors of the screen 262k compared to 65k. Honestly, a superior screen.
*video playback time
*codec support(WMV9/DivX/VidX/MPEG4)
*extra features: FM, recording, etc.
*picture viewing - zoom and pan
*custom equalizer
*Screen is able to resize video
*No advanced conversion ala ipod, drag and drop video
*Scratches are not as bad as ipod
*Superior sound quality(97db)
* hour better battery life then ipod, twice as much for video
*Support for the WMA, DRM stores
* Customizable Themes and Backgrounds. Customizable screen brightness/other screen features.
With the upload process, you have a choice between programs. You can use WMP 0, Zen Vision M Explorer or MediaSoruce. I have perfect ID3 tags, so I just drag and droped my music on the ZVM with no problem. I also draged and droped my videos with no conversion.
The interface is exactly(almost) the same as the ipod. It is a ID3-based hierarchy. Extremely easy to go through music. The scroll is nice, you can adjust the sensitivy.
Some reviews to help you:
CES 2006 Electroics Show-
http://www.cnet.com/4520-405_-6398234-.html?tag=cnetfd.ld
Register-
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/2/08/preview_zen_vision-m/
Mp3Gen(Translated French)-
http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.2707
Clubic.com(Translated French)-
http://26.239.39.04/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.clubic.com/article-3074--le-duel-de-fin-d-annee-ipod-5g-zen-vision-m.html
Cnet Asia(English)-
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/portable_av/0,39033456,39097200p,00.htm
EverythingUSB-
http://www.everythingusb.com/creative_zen_vision:m_30gb.html
VR Zone-
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3070
Pocket Lint(UK)
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/review.php?reviewId=34
ExtremeMHZ-
http://www.extrememhz.com/visionm-p.shtml
PCMag-
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,%5Blink759,95886,00.asp
Cnet America-
http://reviews.cnet.com/Creative_Zen_Vision_M_30GB_white/4505-6490_7-3632700.html?tag=pdtl-img
TrustedReviews-
http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?head=39&page=5607

ZEN VISION:M Multiple Artist Directories/Album Art Issues/e

I recently bought a Zen Vision:M (got talked out of the IPod) and for the most part I'm very happy with it. However these two small issues are so irritating that they make me want to get rid of it.
Firstly a few artists on my player have multiple directories/folders. Some have two, some have as many as fi've. I am extremely particular about my music so I know that they are properly tagged and the artist name matches exactly. It only does this with when I add media with the zen media explorer, however if I use any other program to add files, such as windows media (don't tell anyone that I used that terrible excuse for a media player!) or MusicMatch (my preferred choice), my album art won't display. I find this interesting, and extremely irritating, considering I used MusicMatch to tag the art to the files). I can only get the art to display using the zen media explorer.
Also is there a way to have the zen organize tracks by name and not into album directories? I refuse to believe that I am the only one who listens to my music by track title as opposed to album title, otherwise I'd just pop the cd in!!! And what is the deal with playing one track plays the whole album? I have to add track to playlist just so it doesn't throw all the songs in there.

Windows Media Player does not write the album art to the ID3 tag of the mp3 file. It keeps the image file separated from the mp3 and makes a link to it.
You need something that can write the image file to the mp3 file itself. Zen Explorer can do this.
As for the multiple artist names showing up. I've never seen that before, and I feel like I need more details. Do the Artist names show up under the Artist Catagory view or the Album catagory view? And I misundertood if you were trying to say this only happens when you transfer music using the Zen Explorer and not Media Playper or MusicMatch since you changed subjects midway through the sentence.
But in a general sense, this would happen if you are spelling the two directories differently. Like for example Tom Jones, Tom Jone, or ( )Tom Jones. the ( ) means theres a space in front of the T. Those would all show up under different album names.Message Edited by TimT on 07-0-2006 2:04 PM

Q: Zen Vision M Navigation Quest

Hi there!
I am about to buy a Zen Vision M mp3 player. There is one single issue which is extremely important to me but everyone using such a player should be able to answer it easily.
So, I have a huge collection of classical music. The normal id3 navigation using artist and album is of no use here (Think of a structure such as Mozart --> Piano Sonatas --> Sonate 2 --> Adagio). So I used to id 3 tag genre as a substitute for the composer of a work. My question would now be whether or not it's possible to access music on player in exactly this order: genre --> album --> artist --> title? Thank you very much for your help indeed!
Henry

If i understand what u are asking, what you have to do is press the 'Play/Pause' button when you have highlighted the Artist (in the long list of artists.). This will play all of that artists tracks in alphabetical order.

Zen Vision M 30GB - How to edit more than one tag at once

Hello,
I?m looking for a comfortable way to edit the tags on my player. I?ve installed ZEN Vision M Series Media Explorer, but I can only add one file at once. I?ve tried a normal tageditor, but I can't see the player in the device list.
Does anyone know a tool for editing more than one file at once ?
Thanks
Michel

I do it in winamp, and then i copy songs back to player .)

MediaSource Recognition Problem? (Zen Vision:

OK, I had a Zen 20GB for the last year and I loved it to bits. Worked great, but just before Christmas it fell in some water and died . I replaced it with a 60GB Zen Vision:M and didn't mind too much because I had less than GB of space left and would have had to replace it soon anyway.
Now onto my question. With my Zen 20GB when I used Media Source (I think v.3 came with it but I can't remember) it would let me search my Zen and edit tracks in it. The search function was IMO fantastic, especially with a music collection as large as mine. Now when I connect my ZV:M it connects fine. I've transferred plenty of music without bother using Windows Media Player.
However, when I open Media Source (both v.3 and v.5) it doesn't give me any option to explore my Zen like it did when I had my 20GB. I can still explore it using the Zen Explorer, but since this doesn't let you edit the properties for several tracks at a time I find it very frustrating.
Also, if I chose to "Transfer Music", "Transfer Playlist" or "Sync Music" in Media Source I get the message "No Creative mp3 player is detected. Please connect your mp3 player and try again."
Now, I know it's connected since I can explore the contents fine in Zen Explorer and I can transfer to it using WMP. Is there something I haven't installed correctly that is stopping Media Source from recognising my player? It just seems strange since it seems to be the only application not working for it.
Thanks for the help (and sorry if this has been covered else where. I searched but couldn't find anything).

You must also download and install the corresponding MediaSource plugin for your MP3 player in order for MediaSource 5 to detect your MP3 player.

NOT so happy CONCLUSION after all -- Installation of my ZEN Vision M (30 G

Sunday 2/3/06
Let's see, I had a problem with losing my AUDIO. Finally, I had to do a full re-install on my S.B. Audigy 2zs. I even moved it to a different PCI connector on the MB. After a full re-installation... sweet sound again.
As to the Zen itself, I keep having problems.... I am trying to update all the applications (C MediaSourde and C Media explorer) and even there I am finding problems.
When I download the upgrade file to my PC ([color="#ff3300">CMS5_PCAPP_LB_5_0_38.exe), and?try opening it, it HANGS... that's it... so I have not been able to upgrade it. And if I don't upgrade it, then I will have the same erratic behavior will all these applications. They work sometimes and sometimes they don't.
If I really force the issue, opent the explorer and the MediaSource, where I have my "library" of songs... and WHEN the ZEN is recognized by everyone (This is ramdon condition, sometimes yes, many times no), I am able to drag and drop some songs from my "library"?to the ZEN.... but I?still don't have a clear path to do this consistently... ?
Tuesday report 2/26/06:?
[color="#ff0000"](I?don't want anybody to get the ideal all is well now... I thought it was... Yesterday, but not today)
Today I?was able to?to Rip a couple of CDs and "transfer" them to the ZEN. Some of the songs?have noises?though... I don't know what causes that. But the applications are still buggy, they don't work consistently all the time. I just "sense" something is not right with my PC.
[color="#ff0000"]No only that... This installation knocked off my Audio!... even though I have a Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2zs platinum! (Audio Card)... So I have NO SOUND right now?and therefore I can not use WMP-0 to rip cd's because it tells me I have not audio and I am not in the mood to deal the WMP now. So I had to use the Creative MediaSource 5, to do the ripping and the synchronizing. It did the job ok, except for the noise...
I tried everything to re-install my Audio. Tried the latest dri've...Nothing. Went back to my old one (before this installation) and it DID NOT work either!? Amazing how complicated this has become....
Monday report 2/25/06: I did not do much on the Zen today. But I did notice the WPM 0, still goes crazy (crashed) when trying to find the Zen. The WMP0 crashed today once. Also, there seem to be some conflict among certain programs... It almost seems as if more than one applications is biding for the Zen when they see it. (i.e. if the WMP is open and try opening the Creative Explorer app... it will not open... but only until I close the WMP...then the apps springs up just like that. That's it. - Good night.
I SO, IT seems like I am not out of the woods yet... I wonder if I ever will.
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Quick Tips (I see people asking the same questions)
If your ZEN seems "dead" then you need to RESET it. How? insert a "clip" (or other sharp tool. Clip works best) in the hole for RESET, located at the bottom of the ZEN (by the "dongle" connector)<?
Connect your ZEN to a "USB-PORT" (not to a "hub")?A USB-PORT is located on your computer (the box). A "Hub" is a little box connected to one USB-PORTS and it "splits" this port into several USB-Connectors... ideally useful for "devices" that do not required lost of information or current (i.e. mouse, drawing table, keyboard, etc). Devices that required a continuous or heavy amounts of information (i.e. External Hard Dri'ves, Camcorders, Webcams sometimes, required an individual USB-PORT)<?Two things here:?- This link is for the original messagehttp://forums.creative.com/creativel...essage.id=7293?[size="+2"][color="#ff0000"]2- Happy Conclusion installing the ZEN Vision M (30 Gig)(I am writing this for several reasons. Mainly, because it was a difficult installation and I wanted to summarize the 200 or 300 steps/actions I did that led me to solve the problem successfully. I always do this when I have a difficult installation and then I save it for the next time I need it (i.e. changing computers). I certainly don?t want to waste all that effort. One thing I learned about ?technology? is hard to learn it but it can be forgotten so easily, if you don?t take notes.)
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[size="+2"][color="#ff3300">What was causing the problem?
Two things:
First, problems with Windows and the computer itself.
Second, the Creative applications were horrible at first, they would not open right away and when they did? sometimes 5 or 0 seconds later? they would crash just by clicking on something? and so Windows kept giving me those Error boxes and I kept sending them to Microsoft?(I must have sent at least 00 if not more!) I was also having problems with my graphics, every time an application would crash, then all kind of weird graphics would take place when dragging things around. I also had problems at one time with my Anti-virus/fire-wall Icon going dark after several re-boots, so I had to kick it to get it working?. Oh well, I just want you to get a flavor for how bad things were yesterday.
When I first installed the software, nothing worked!... My computer was noticeably SLOWER and SLUGHISH? Actually I was worry about my computer itself because I have never seen it this bad!... I thought a virus the size of an elephant had gotten into the pc somehow, no kidding so I ran the anti-virus, anti-spy, just to make sure. Sometimes if you firewall is down, you can get viruses in an instant!... I hope you people know this by now. And if the firewall fails and viruses get in, is just at moments like these? when you are trying to get things to work and downloading stuff from the Internet and so on.
The computer was just sloooowww? sluggish?.. and crashy (new word?)?.
I must have rebooted my system from 40 to 50 times, and I am not exaggerating. At some point I even had trouble turning off the PC. There were like three time where it would just sit there in ?limbo? (hung/crashed), so I had to actually switch the?PC OFF on the back of the box, the only way to turn it off? And of course, when you do that, you can be sure you will have all kinds of interesting things when you try to boot up again! (like all kinds of funny displays on my screen, or Windows giving me the ?black screen and white text? asking me to choose a way to boot up, like ?boot up normally? or ?boot up using the last configuration that worked,? (I did this like?7 times all together).
[size="+2"][color="#ff3300">So how did?everything go?from ?so bad? to ?so wonderful?? I don?t really know exactly!
But I suspect three things happened:
- Windows sent me a couple of upgrades (I get them automatically)? I have NO IDEA what they were, but whatever they were, helped!
?2 - As I read and read, things began to come back to my brain. Especially a post reply that gave me the hint (Reformatting the dri've in the Zen) would finally let me ?transfer? my stuff to the Zen
?3 - An lastly, after I have ?cleaned, reformatted the dri've, got rid off the ?firmware? (not a good thing to do), Then I could not make Windows see the ZEN no matter what I did!? I did what worked before (connecting and disconnecting the USB cable from the white adapter (dungle?) connected to the ZEN). Usually when you do this, Windows being a ?plug and play? OS, it usually ?sees? when a new ?device? is plugged in one of the USB ports, or disconnected from a port, as well. In other words it ?recognizes? the device (connectivity) and if the software and driver are already install, the device should come ali've and work! That is the reason you always install the software and drivers first, and usually re-boot the system once, so that when you connect the ?device? (ZEN), it should work!
[size="+2"][color="#ff3300">Let me recap I what happened:
?- I installed the s/w and as I already said, it was horrible.
?2- The Windows updates, somehow were helping a little bit.
?3- I also downloaded the latest updates from Creative.com (downloads/upgrades). I downloaded the ?firmware? (the ?upgrade,? which is the OS=Operating System for the ZEN. Just like ?Windows? is to the PC) and other ?patches? for?the ?creative media source 5? and ?Zencast organizer? (3 updates). I am sure this upgrades helped some, as well.
?4- After trying so many times, I was finally able to open the ?Zen Media Explorer? (Icon looks like a picture of the Zen). When this opens, it shows you everything inside the Zen just like in the ?explorer? (nice). That meant I had connectivity! (good).
?5- Since I had ?connectivity? (access) to the ZEN, My next attempt was to ?transfer? some files down to the ZEN? but this proved impossible!... Somehow, at some?point, by accident (I?did not even notice it)? I was able to transfer ONE song to the ZEN, which gave me hope. After all, if you can do it once, you should be able to do it again. BUT, I couldn?t
?6- Then a nice lady?who responded to my first post, told me she had basically the same problems and the solution was to ?Clean and re-format? the ?Disk dri've?in the ZEN. She said that once she?did that, everything would sort of fall into place? and she was right!
?7- I unplugged the ZEN from the PC and read somewhere how ?to clean, reformat, upgrade or replace the ?firmware,? Not sure still, but it'ss something like ?resetting (with a clip) the Zen and holding the ?power? slide in the ON position? something like that, and that brings a special screen with 4 choices:
Clean<
Reformat dri've (erases everything!), <
Replace firmware (careful here!), <
Reboot. <
Then it'ss pretty easy?to do a lot of ?damage? in a few seconds!... ([color="#ff3300">careful here if you are not used to the sensitivity of the "touch-pad")In my case I did not care since I had not put anything there yet. I erased EVERYTHING!... (not a good thing). I should have been more careful and simply use option 2 (reformat the dri've). Chances are this would have been enough to transfer songs to the ZEN. But since I get crazy when doing stuff like this, I went ahead a cleaned everything.
?8- Then I realized I had erased the ?firmware. As you already know this is the ?heart? of the Zen. (like Windows to the PC). Finally I went to Creative.com/downloads and downloaded it (the full version). But if you remember in #3, I had also downloaded the ?firmware? upgrade as well. The reason this is significant, is, that when I finally recovered ?connectivity? to the ZEN, I? tried both files, but the one that ZEN accepted was the upgrade! (I found this interesting? since I would have thought the full version would have been the correct choice? see?... little things you learn.
?9- As I already gave you a hint in #8, once I had the ?firmware? ready to install, the system kept telling me it could NOT see the ZEN. I connected and disconnected the USB cable several times? rebooted the pc? this helps sometimes, but nothing!... FINALLY, I read somewhere, I should go to the ?device manager? and check what was going on.. ? EUREKA ? indeed I found the ZEN with a ?Yellow mark? on the side, which always means trouble. Basically, I used the ?uninstall? option (based of the principle that simply ?un-installing and installing back something? sometimes this works. In other words, the ZEN was ?stucked. So when I ?removed? It from the ?Device Manager? list (I don?t recall if I rebooted here? but it never hurts!), then all of the sudden? a little icon in Windows (on the small tray=bottom right corner (with the clock and Date),? acknowledged?a new deviced had been connected to Windows. (connectivity back again! Yeahhh).
?0- Now that had ?connectivity? (Big step), I could try installing the ?firmware. And as I already explained, the ?upgrade? was the one that ZEN took. As soon as you clicked on the file, a box opened and asked if you wanted to install the ?firmware. I said yes and voila!... The Zen started accepting it's and when it ended, just like a PC, the ZEN rebooted itself and I was able to see the familiar interface (the same folders as before) but not contents at all? empty!
?- At this?point?I opened the ?Creative Media Source organizer,? went to my ?playlist? and from there, just click and drag some songs and dropped them on top of the Zen Icon (just like dropping files in a folder). And yes, the files were finally ?transferred? to the ZEN. Unplugged the USB cable from the Zen (or the Zen does not play anything). The songs were there and I was FINALLY able to listen to them from the ZEN!... Wonderful. Oh yes, using the same technique (drag and drop), I put a wmv video and was able to watch it as well... Now I know why people rave about the little screen... nice!
?2- In the mean time, without noticing? Just like the nice lady?from the post said, everything seemed to have fallen into place!
?In Summary: The applications ( the creative programs=icons)?were opening normally and quickly now, and many of the errors I got before when clicking on certain things, disappeared. I am sure I will still find some problems here and there, but basically the thing works now the way it is supposed to.
?Just a matter of clicking, dragging and dropping items?into the Zen?.yes, that simple!
?Good luck!
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[url="http://web6.streamhoster.com/em2253/ZEN/ZenDeviceManager.wmv]See Movie[/url]?Hi, take a look at the movie... hopefully I answer to your question is there. [b]Let me know if you can NOT see it... [/b]and I will send you a picture. [color="#ff0000"]and if you can see the movie, give me feedback on it. Did it look ok in your computer? (it changes with all computers depending on your setting and player!). [color="#ff0000"]Was the sound ok?I almost wish I had not titled this post as "Happy Conclusion." It was happy but only a day or two... then I started having other problems... unbelievable. So, If I gave the wrong impression, sorry!

Creative Zen Vision M Media Explorer does not work on Vi

I plugged in my device, all I can see was the name of the device under Portable Devices.
When I access Media Explorer, it said my device is not connect but in fact it actually is.
If I copy a file via Portable Devices, it automatically freezes up my computer.
Any idea how to resolve this problem?
Best regards,
TriMessage Edited by trihhoang on 0-23-200702:32 PM

You should be able to use WMP 2 to sync your files to the player . As long as the files have album art it will transfer. You can not add the album art to files that are already one the player .You would have to delete & then sync the files that have the art. Also You may be able to use the Zen Vision M Explorer for Vista on the Win7 just install using compatibilty mode for Vista (if Win7 has that as an option) there was one written for 64 bit systems as well as 32 bit. You can tell which is which by the file name. 64 is in the file name for a 64bit system/ 32 in the 32 bit system file name.http://support.creative.com/Products...VARSET=prodfaq:PRODFAQ_433,VARSET=CategoryID:23 Click on View all Downloads

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