Zen xtra recording from line
hi,I have been loading my new
nomad Zen Xtra with my CD collection,going great once I got the hang of it {novice here} now I would like to load onto the `Zen` my old tape collection,this is where I am having a big problem,I make connection as follows
---plug into the ear phone jack socket of my tape player
--plug the other end into line in on the PC
--set the recorder going.........timer works
--can hear music through the speakers......appears to go my music ect........
-- when I sellect play back ...there is nothing.. no sound although the play slider moves
--tried different players....all the same
--does any one know what I am doing wrong ?
--has any one had same probs?
I am using Creative Media sorce organizer to do the transfer
frustrated Ron...................
hi every body, thanks for all the advice:--------------
the problem was the player that I was using to send to pc did not have a strong enough signal for the pc to reconise,athough I could hear it ok on the head phones,and also on the pc speakers,the recorder could not "hear it "tried other leads no good
then I used my large radio cassett player and it worked,
so I`m happily transfering my cassett music to the Zen,what a task the tagging is.
This will be repeated when I do my old L.P collection,we don`t know how lucky we are with the CD with all the info on.
regards Ron
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Found mixer: Port Intel [hw:0]
HDA Intel, Realtek ALC662 rev1
Source Line Supported:
Front Mic Boost, source
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Front Mic Boost Control containing Volume, and Balance Controls.
Volume with current value: 0.6666667 (range: 0.0 - 1.0)
Balance with current value: -2.9802322E-8 (range: -1.0 - 1.0)
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Mic Boost Control containing Volume, and Balance Controls.
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Balance with current value: -2.9802322E-8 (range: -1.0 - 1.0)
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Capture Control containing Volume, Balance, and Select Controls.
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Select Control with current value: true
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import java.io.File;
import java.io.IOException;
import java.text.SimpleDateFormat;
import java.util.Date;
import javax.sound.sampled.AudioFileFormat;
import javax.sound.sampled.AudioFormat;
import javax.sound.sampled.AudioInputStream;
import javax.sound.sampled.AudioSystem;
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import javax.sound.sampled.LineUnavailableException;
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import org.apache.commons.configuration.PropertiesConfiguration;
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