ZFS snapshot and SCP

Hi,
Any one can share the difference between the usage of ZFS snapshot/restoring the data and ordinary SCP to other host.
Regards
Siva

The idea is that when you create a clone, it is lightweight and based on the snapshot. That's what makes it so fast. You're not copying every block in the filesystem. So the snapshot is what ties together the parent filesystem and the clone.
For the clone to be independent, you'd have to copy all the blocks. There's no option to do that within the clone process. So as long as both the parent filesystem and the clone filesystem are around, the snapshot has to exist as well.
Darren

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