Does Elements support imported closed-captioning?

Using Elements 2.0. Ripped a self-produced DVD containing closed captioning on it (line 21); added that media to Elements; the resulting exported MPEG had no closed-captioning on it, or none was detected by the "ccextractor". Trying to determine if the closed captioning is lost in Elements, or if the MPEG player does not recognize line 21 - it's an Adtec Soloist Pro-HD. Thanks for any suggestions or help.

PrE supports no CC, or Subtitles (the real ones, and not just lower-thirds burned into the video).
I do not believe that PrPro will do this either.
Now, going the other direction, Encore, the authoring app bundled with PrPro, will allow Line 21 on DVD-Video (and BD, IIRC), but that is the wrong direction.
Since Line 21 is a function to be dictated via menu (or remote) on a DVD-Video, I rather doubt that you'll find many, if any, NLE's that can rip it off the DVD.
Good luck,
Hunt

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Hi Bracmanf,
bracmanf wrote:
I am using Adobe Premiere Pro CS6. My aim is to export an mpeg file with closed captioning embeded for network television.
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However, I cannot find the "Caption" menu to do so? Where is it?
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You can download a free trial of Creative Cloud here: https://creative.adobe.com/products/creative-cloud
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1) created a closed caption track in a 2:40 minute Video as the top level video track (V4 in my case) using the CEA 608 CC1 caption stream. Captions show up in the program window properly enabled.
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Please note that this file, while a draft version, is the property of the California Automobile Museum which reserves all rights to its use including reposting, copying or modifying.
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Thanks for the posting on the forums here. I downloaded your file and I looked at it in the following places:
GENERAL PLAYBACK MAC
10.8.5 (12F45)
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I could see the closed captioning in the player.
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10.9 (13A603)
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with PPRO CC 2014
Closed captioning intact and viewable in the app
10.9 updated to 10.9.5 (13F34)
with QuickTime 10.3 (727.4)
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This is not just a failure of PPRO embedded closed caption MOVs, but also embedded MOVs from other closed caption authoring solutions like Telestream, and Annotation Edit.
I can log a bug on my side, but the problem is not in PPRO -- I'd check with Apple on this.
with PPRO CC 2014
Closed captioning intact and viewable in the app
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It appears from my quick testing with VLC Media Player -- VLC Media Player is not detecting embedded closed captions in files from PPRO, nor from other industry standard closed caption authoring solutions, like from Telesteam, they make MacCaption and Caption Maker. I also checked embedded files from Annotation Edit, another widely used caption authoring solution, and VLC Media Player does not detect embedded closed captioning in those files, either.
I encourage you to look on the side of VLC Media Player for the failure to display closed captions.
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