KE21S-Valuation Simultaion COPA

Hi,
while doing transaction KE21S I am not able to enter the values in Sales Order and Sales Order Item fields in Orgin data Tab.Because of this, I am not able to do valuation in this Transaction.I am here providing the selection creteria which I used.
Plz find my given selection criteria as below.
Posting date: Current date
Pt.of valuation 01-Real Time valuation of Actual data.
Record Type:-F-Billing Data
Legal View :-Select Radio Button
Could you plz explian me what could be the cause to show those values in display mode? Is it any configuration mistake?
If yes,what are the activities must be prequist before go for the transaction KE212S.
Please treat this on High priority.
Thanks in Advance.
Kumar.D

Thanks for your answer.
So valuation gives only additional information about standard costs of products divided into fixed and variable - just as in cost element structure?
Without valuation I would get the information about the standard cost from SD condition VPRS, am I right? (but it won't have the precise information about cost elements that build standard cost).

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Hi Experts!
I have requirement with my client, that he wants to valuate sales forecast for whole year; where he needs that; at each period there should be a planned cost estimate on the base of planning data & the same should be used for valuation in COPA.
Like:
If i plan 10 units of abc material in period 1 & say 20 units in period 2, these should be valuated in COPA according to planned cost estimate of relevant periods (e.g in period 1; it might be $ 100 per unit and in period 2 @ 120 /unit).
Please guide what setting i need in costing variant and in assignment of same in COPA KE40.
Best Regards

Resolved:
By using period Indicator "Material Cost Estimate Matching Posting Date" in KE40

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We have activate profit center valuation for our operating concern.
During normal OTC cycle (third party sales), all the data is flowing correctly in legal view for the COPA document
In profit center valuation, only revenue is flowing and no other values like discounts, standard costs are flowing to Profit center valuation view
My question why only revenue is flowing and not any other values. Is this way system should behave
Thanks.

If you have created new GL Accounts to map the Third party scenario, the pre-requesite is that you might need to create cost elemenet with category 11 or 12.
Further only assignments are condition types assigned to value fields.
Check if the billing type is reset under TCode KE4W.

Periodic valuation (02) COPA

Hi Experts!
I m using point of valuation 02 (periodic valuation) to populate results in COPA on the base of modified cost estimate to get updated ROH & VERP Cost. Now i m going to activate material ledger, where the same point of valuation would be used to populate actual cost (periodic rate) in COPA. But the restriction is that, i can only assign value fields for one strategy, i.e. for modified cost estimate as i mentioned above.
My question is, can i use same point of valuation (02) to populate the results in different value fields for modified cost estimate and periodic rate (actual cost).
Br,
Tayyab

Hi Tayyab
As far as I know, in the standard system its not possible... You want to post revaluated COGS based on 2 separate cost estimates into separate set of value fields each time...
As you rightly said, the Costing keys, VF Assignment can all be done at the level of PV = 02... After seeing your case, I feel there should have been an option of including Valuation Strategy as well in KE4J/KEPC, KE4U etc
The only way I see is to use exit COPA0002 and see if you can achieve the desired result... i.e. for PV=02, assign a Userexit in KE4U and from there you can try achieving your desired result
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COPA Valuation

I have found out an error in valuation in COPA (due to the +/- Sign in Condition type assignment to Value fields - KE4I) What is the most optimum way of correction of this error.
Should the billing document be reversed and reposted.
Or the fi document should be reposted using KE26.
(in which case i need to modify my pa transfer structure etc)
Regards,
Ravi Rana

Cancel the billing document which will reverse biling and FI. Fix your PA valuation. Then repost the billing document.
pls assign points if helpful as a way to say thanks.
Message was edited by: Dave Scarpino

Cost flow to COPA

Hi All,
I understand that revenues flow into COPA from Billing my mapping SD condition types to value fields
But how do costs flow
By VPRS to value field
Or
FI ( PA transfer structure cost element ) to Value field
Also what is the significance of VPRS ( does it contain accurate costs ?)
Regards,
Reddy

VPRS will pull std. cost from the material master if Price control = S. So yes you can map VPRS to lets say STDPR in COPA...
However it will not be broken down by fix/ variable or other cost components.
For that you need to configure "Valuation" in COPA customizing.
Hope this helps,
Arif
Edited by: Arif Hussain on Nov 12, 2008 9:56 PM

Using enhancement COPA0001 in a derivation to clear value fields

Dear colleagues,
In our sales process, freight is added as an item of the sales order, which means we maintain different freight types as materials (mat type ZFRE - "Freight") and we create cost estimates, so that this cost can be valuated into COPA.
Our problem is that we do not want to capture the cost of goods sold and the cost of sales for those materialss, as they only represent the freight cost that is paid by us and reimbursed by our customers. In addition, I we would like to move the value of the revenue value field to another value field (Freight sales).
I am trying to accomplish this by using enhancement COPA0001 - I created an enhancement step and I added a code to include ZXKKEU11 which specifies the "clear" of 2 value fields and the "move" of the revenue to another value field.
I had done this in the past to clear quantity fields, but I am testing this new config and it doesn't work.
When testing the derivation analyzer tells me that "Derivation was not carried out. Reason: None of the target fields are to be derived".
I looked in the known resources, but couldn't find any valuable information about such an issue. I did see in the SAP library that target fields can be "All quantity unit fields" , but value fields are not mentioned.
Did anyone have a similar experience or knows if what I'm trying to do is possible?
Thanks,
Yoel.

Hi
You can try with exit COPA0005 as Christian mentioned...
But, I would like to know your process in ddetail to see if any standard mechanism is possible...
1. What does your sale order look like? Does it has one saleable material + Multiple freight materials?
2. What purpose these freight materials serve? Do they have a revenue as well as cost in the sale order pricing procedure?
3. Can you explain your total scenario with accounting entries? and what exactly are you looking at
Regards
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MTO Settlement

Pls help!
We use make-to-order scenario with both order and sales order as cost objects.
First question - the cost object is determined under cost object controlling by sales order > requirement class > account assignment category. If category is E, then sales order is the object, correct? And the requirements type that the class is assigned to is included on sales order line item and appropriately assigned to the item category in configuration? Please confirm understanding.
If we do not have requirements type defaulted in the sales order, then its assumed its make to order with production order as cost object? Therefore, if we never wanted the sales order to be the cost object, we would not have to configure th area cost object controlling by sales order. This point confuses me so please confirm.
When we settle the production orders or sales order, is the cost component split used to map the costs (cost element range) to the copa value fields? I do see this configuration set up in the system under valuation in copa (KER4) and wondering if it comes into play during settlement of production (co88) and sales orders (va88)?
We have our allocation structure set up to settle costs to psg and we have the pa transfer structure set up as well.
The pa transfer structure assigned in the production order type does include the cost element ranges for material, labor, overhead, but the value fields are mapped to the material variance, labor variance, overhead variance value fields, not the material, labor, overhead cost value fields.
So if I don't see the material, labor, overhead cost value fields mapped in the pa transfer structure, how are costs actually flowing through to copa (material, labor, oh)? are they missing from profitability transfer structure? I do see them on the copa reports (ke24) so their must be config allowing this data to pass, which is why I think it might be the cost component structure. Please confirm.
Thank you!!!!!

Hi,
1. If you dont want sales order as a cost object,
a. Either follow the steps I mentioned above, OR
b. Do Not assign any req type at all
2. There are 2 scenarios here,
a. SO is cost obj with non valuated stock (SAP recommends this)
b. SO is cost obj with valuated stock...
2.a -
Prod Order is settled upon sales order.. GR from prod order does not update any acc doc
Sales order is settled to COPA.. Here you can use a PA Trf Str where in you have replicated your Cost Comp Str... i.e. You can create as many assignment lines in KEI1 as your CCS in OKTZ and assign each one of them to a separtae value field
No question of variances in this case
2.b
Prod order is not settled upon sales order.... GR from Prod order updates acc doc.... However, variance from prod order can be settled to the sales order if you create variance account as a cost element... Else, it is settled to COPA
Upon PGI, the COGS is posted to Sales Order as a single line item
Here, in your PA Trf Str, you would create an Assignment line and tick "Qty Billed/Delivered".... This would update the Billing Qty to COPA upon settlement of Sales order
This Qty update will trigger KE4R.... i.e. You need to assign CCS to VF in KE4R for PV=01 and Rec Type = C.... This would update the CCS in COPA as per the Sales Order cost estimate
The Costing Key in KE40 should refer to "Sales order cost estimate" and not "Std Cost estimate"
Br, Ajay M
Hope, I have not confused you.. I am going to sleep as its 2 AM in India now.. Will reply tomorrow, if you need any assistance.. Byeeee.
Edited by: Ajay Maheshwari on Mar 19, 2011 1:40 AM

Moving Average price, Std price and FIFO

Hi folks,
It seems our client wants to use FIFO valuation for its items rather than Moving Average because FIFO gives them an actual price for their Finished Goods (the client does not have any manufacturing).
I beleive the question the client wants answered is: <b>Can they can use the FIFO valuation within COPA-AB (account based) instead of costing based</b>.
The client manager seems extremely sure that this can be done in COPA. Can it be done? If so, how would we go about it? My understanding is that COPA only captures the cost with the revenue. It captures the cost the moment you ship a product.
I think CO-PC handles this, however I think you need PP implemented as well and the client is not implementing PP at this time. I could also be totally wrong about all of this.
Hopefully this all makes sense. Unfortunately I cannot upload an example of what I mean.
Appreciate any thoughts on this.
Thanks!

You are absolutely correct.
COPA is used for reporting cost & revenues for internal use. It has nothing do with inventory valuation.
It is product costing which is used for material valuation in manufacturing scenario. As you mentioned, that products are not manufactured. there is no need to implement PP & product costing.
In SAP material is valuated either at moving average price or standard price a sper price control in material master. However, there are functionality in SAP where materials can be re valuated at period end for legal reporting. Explore the functionality in MM -> balance sheet valuation (do not remember the exact path). In this materials can be re-valuated as per various principles or can be done via user exits.
Hope it helps.

Material Ledger Documentation

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Hello Gurus,
Does anyone have any documentation on configuring actual cost valuation in COPA?
Thanks
Harmind

Hai Gurus,
I am interested in the Material ledger activation, if u had a soft copy or any link for activation of material ledger Pl. push the stuff to this mail id.
[email protected]
I will reward some points also.
Pl. do me the needful
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Split Valuation Material Cost Estimate into COPA

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Is there any way how we can transfer the split valuation material cost estimate into COPA?
I checked the actual line items, there is no "valuation type / batch" characteristics there.
Is this the main cause?
Please kindly suggest on the best way to solve this issue
Thank you very much
Regards, Erwin

Hi, Ajay
Does this mean that, even though i manage to create the valuation type as characteristic in COPA, i won't be able to get 2 different cost estimate based on valuation type into COPA?
Hm, then, are there any solutions which can be done to solve this issue?
The client needs a COPA report which can show the breakdown of the sold materials cost estimates
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Valuation process in COPA with ML

Hi Gurus!!
I would like setting the valuation process in COPA, we have configured Material ledger without actual costing and all our products have the prices control indicator (v ) variable price/periodic unit price. I’m trying to do all the process but I don´t know how can I get the correct value in COPA for the Material Cost for each delivery (SD). Because the system takes the material Cost for the company code currency and uses the Exchange rate day to determine the value of the COPA Currency, and we need that the system takes the value of the material from Material Ledger.
How can I get the right value in COPA (ML tables)?
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Regards,
MK

Hello Susan,
I got the information about using different value fields for each point of valuation from SAP's help notes. I also have a training document I am following. Here is an excerpt:
Assign Value Fields
Here you can assign the components of a cost component structure from Product Cost Controlling to the value fields of your operating concern. Note that you need to maintain separate value field assignments for each point of valuation in Profitability Analysis (CO-PA).
You can divide the cost components into fixed and variable parts before transferring them to CO-PA.
For each cost estimate, you can transfer any number of cost components to the same value field (n:1 relationship). The values from these cost components are then added together in the value field.
If you valuate using multiple material cost estimates simultaneously, this means that the values of different cost components within the same cost estimate are aggregated and then entered in one CO-PA value field. However, value fields that already contain data from a previous cost estimate are not overwritten by a later cost estimate. Consequently, you should assign value fields in Customizing so that the values of different cost estimates are entered in different sets of value fields.
You can assign up to six different value fields from your operating concern to each cost component in the cost component structure. These assignments is indicated by the value fields entered in the columns Field name 1 through Field name 6.
Different value field assignments are important whenever you want to use multiple valuation approaches with different cost estimates. Six is the maximum number of cost estimates that you can transfer simultaneously from Product Cost Controlling to Profitability Analysis.
If you want the whole document you can email me and I will send it to you.
Regards
Peter

Help on COPA material Valuation

Dear All,
Our client has 3 manufacturing plants. 2 in Delhi, 1 in Pune
Plant in Pune manufactures few products and on the other side receives manufactured products from Delhi plants and does some processing then despatch to customers. The processing charges incurred in Pune is not inventorised and is not cost relevant and no product costing is done for the these materials received from other plants in Pune plant.
Here there are two things, one - Few products for which Cost estimation is done and for few products for which cost estimation is not done and Price is updated with MR21 though the price indicator is "S".
From the COPA perspective, "Error if cost estimation is not found indicator" is checked while valuating the materials in COPA.
Client wants this indicator to be active, but how it is possible to deactivate this indicator for the products received from other plants to Pune as Cost estimation is not done.
Please help me on this, any possibility of restricting this error message by creating a new costing key and assigning these with respect to material, plant combination.
Please your suggestions are welcome.
Thanks & Regards

Dear Ajay,
Further to the above message, my costing key configuration is like this:
"Period Indicator: current cost estimate acc to enty in the material master"
Can you let me know, if the COPA valuation is with the current cost estimate, then for the Material for which cost estimation has not happend or released, how do the billing and its release to accounting happen.
If COPA is implemented and material valuation is done through Access to the standard cost estimation, then is it like every month Cost estimation is to be released.
If this is the case, then how it helps me in the scenario discussed. As i m unable to release the billing to accounting. the error message is below:
Valuation with material cost estimate: error with product "X"
Message no. KE350
Diagnosis
In Profitability Analysis (CO-PA), the system tried to valuate a line item using the current standard cost estimate.
In order to determine the current plan period, the system needs to read the valuation segment of the material master.
The system has found that the current plan period is not filled for product "X" in plant "ABCD".
Display material (View: Costing)
The system looked for the material cost estimate using costing key "Z01", as defined in the Customizing settings for CO-PA.
System Response
The document cannot be processed.
Procedure
Contact your system administrator.
Please let me know on this.
Thanks & Regards,
Edited by: goodluck015 on Aug 28, 2011 6:48 AM

COPA Valuation Strategy Issue

Hi,
When posting the Billing document,I am getting Direct Material cost 2 times in COPA line item document in KE24.
I guess this is beccause problem in Valuation strategy configuration for COPA in the system.Kindly advice me why i am getting Material Costs 2 times,one is From KWMAEK value field,it is getting updated from Stadard Cost estimate.
if it is having problem with Valuation Strategy in COPA,kindly advice me what are the necessary settings that i need to make.It would be a great help for me.
Why it is taking material cost 2 times,kindly advice me as it is very very critical issue for me.
I will assgin points
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Hi Thanks for your reply.
System is posting differant amounts one with value field VVMAT material Cost and one with KWMAEK direct material cost.
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