Recovering Keywords Bridge CS4

My hard drive crashed and I've replaced it with a new one and upgraded the O/S to W7 from XP MCE at the same time. I've recovered my PSD's, JPEG's & camera raw (canon CR2) images from the old drive and when I started Bridge in the new install but most of my "custom" keywords don't appear in the keywords list nor do they seem to appear in the EXIF. Is there a way to recover this info from the old drive image? (it was the boot drive).

The keywords file under XP should be here: C:\Documents and Settings\[user]\Application Data\Adobe\Bridge CS4\Adobe Bridge Keywords.xml. You'll have to copy it to this folder for win7: c:\Users\[user]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Bridge CS4\
This file only contains the list of keywords from your Keywords panel, when you apply keywords to your files they are preserved in the metadata of the files themselves unless you're talking about raw files in which case they should be stored in a .XMP file

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Bridge CS4 Search Not Displaying NEF Files + Keyword Problems

Hello, I am hoping someone can be of service to peculiar problem that apparently nobody else has had.
I am running Adobe Bridge CS4 (came bundled with Photoshop Elements 8) on a 2009 24 inch iMac with 4GB RAM and a 2.6mHz processor running Snow Leopard v10.6.2.
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Now I'm noticing that all my search results are not including NEF files; just JPEG and the occasional DNG file that I made through Adobe Camera RAW. I'm not sure if this has been the case throughout my problem or if I just noticed it late.
Regarding not displaying NEF files in searches, it appears that it will default to displaying JPEG if it has the option because as of lately I have only been shooting RAW and some of those files are showing up in the still-wonky searches (still displaying random or no photos of keywords.) However, if I manually navigate to a file, I can open and edit NEF files with no problem, they just don't display in any search modes.
Here's two short videos of what happens when I navigate a folder with NEF files by manually searching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDjUDZzULKQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y9HkDK7DCs
When I click on a NEF file, the one ahead of it in Content view processes into a more contrasty image and the loupe tool previews jump between 100% and 400% and then change to 100% when dragged or they just process themselves right then and there.

I am running Adobe Bridge CS4 (came bundled with Photoshop Elements 8) on a 2009 24 inch iMac with 4GB RAM and a 2.6mHz processor running Snow Leopard v10.6.2.
Snow Leopard and Bridge CS4 do have some issues. Some have no problems and others have much problems I'm afraid.
I use Adobe Bridge CS4 to add Keywords to all my photos and edit 14 bit Nikon NEF RAW files. I write the keywords to an .XMP sidecar file.
To my knowledge the keywords are written into the XMP Metadata that is saved in the IPTC section of file itself, the XMP data in the sidecar file contain the changes you made in ACR. In other words, the keywords you have added should still be there.
Also see this Knowledge Base article about Keywords:
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/402/kb402660.html
Two days I ago I changed something in Preferences->Metadata and the next time I started Bridge CS4 and used the loupe tool on a NEF file, it took longer than usual for the preview to come up and when it did, it was at 200% magnification instead of 100%.
Changes metadata in prefs only affects the visability of the fields in the metadata panel. put or deselect a checkmark in front of an option will let you see or not see the field in this panel, the actual data and fields ar still in the file.
it was at 200% magnification instead of 100%. Once the loupe preview showed up, the NEF file had some sort of processing applied to it (it became more contrasted.) This was all within Bridge ant NOT Adobe Camera Raw.
You can change the magnification for the loupe to 100 / 200 / 400 and 800 % using the scrollwheel or with loupe active the + and - keys. Bridge shows the settings that you made in ACR. If you have changed the default Camera Raw setting it will also change the thumbs for this file. A thumbs needs some time to be cached. First it shows with a black border around, when first cached it shows the embedded preview and in the second round it renders the ACR settings and High Quality preview (if you have not disabled this setting). Caching needs some time.
Everything appeared to be normal until today when I searched for a keyword and got 36 random results when I know I have hundreds of photos tagged with that particular keyword. I started typing in other keywords and getting the same sort of results- very limited numbers of photos I have hundreds of. I always include all subfolders in all searches and used every search method available through Bridge to no avail. The searches always came up with a fraction of the photos I actually have tagged.
Maybe you need to let the indexing in find do its work again but it might also be a snow leopard issue. Try an other app (Digital Asset Management like Expresion Media or Portfolio) to check about the keywording and find. You can use a trial version for several days. You have several options to use find keywords. In the panel itself, in the filterpanel uner the keyword tab, when clicking on a visible keyword it only shows the files with that keyword or in the menu Edit / find (shortcut cmd + F) explore the options in this menu and also choose include non indexed and let Bridge start to index your files again.
However, when I clicked on an individual file in the Content pane, some of my Keywords started to appear in italics below the rest of my Keyword tree. There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason as to why some images will return the Keywords normally and others in italics. Also, sometime the italicized keyword tree will include keywords I edited due to typos and thus no longer existing my normal Keyword tree. I gave the "Make Persistent" command a try. It converts the italics to regular case, but it also doubles the tag so I now have two of that tag (one in the normal keyword tree, and the now converted italics keyword tree.)
Don't know about that.
Here's two short videos of what happens when I navigate a folder with NEF files by manually searching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDjUDZzULKQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y9HkDK7DCs
When I click on a NEF file, the one ahead of it in Content view processes into a more contrasty image and the loupe tool previews jump between 100% and 400% and then change to 100% when dragged or they just process themselves right then and there.
As you can see the black border around some file that disappear after a while or when you select them they have not been cached. You used purge cache so most of your earlier cached results are gone and need to rebuild.

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This is what i get from the event viewer:
Sorry i have no idea what to look for
System
Provider
[ Name]
Application Error
EventID
1000
[ Qualifiers]
0
Level
2
Task
100
Keywords
0x80000000000000
TimeCreated
[ SystemTime]
2010-02-06T01:28:23.000000000Z
EventRecordID
3309
Channel
Application
Computer
Workstation
Security
EventData
Bridge.exe
3.0.0.464
48b75dac
unknown
0.0.0.0
00000000
c0000005
041b15e1
d8c
01caa6cba0a860a8
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CS4\Bridge.exe
unknown
ea035ed1-12be-11df-9400-001fd08134a0

Adobe Bridge CS4

I have MacBook Pro(10.6.2) and recently I upload Adobe Master Collection CS4. The problem is when I switch on my computer and if Adobe Bridge CS4 is in dock it's starting for an activated automatically (bounce off on the dock) when I quit Adobe Bridge CS4 from dock and restart my computer it is starting for activated automatically again and it creates a file into the trash as 'recovered file'. Could you please explain me what is the problem? and how can I solve it?
Thank you.

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If this doesn't work, check your account login items. If Bridge is there delete it.
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NEVER MIND: ANSWERED: Clicking on photo in Bridge CS4 opens file not in PSE 8 but in Preview

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A nice person on Google+ answered the question with this reply:
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You do understand that bridge is just a browser and not an asset management program like iphoto or organizer?
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Problem with Bridge CS4 reading/editing XMP metadata added in Bridge CS6

Please excuse me if this is a dumb/obvious question. I did try searching the forums for similar problems and didn't find anything that seemed to speak to my issue.
I'm having a problem where Bridge CS4 won't read/edit xmp metadata (specifically, keywords and descriptions in the IPTC panel) that I have entered using CS6. it will read some files, not others. The files are all .mp4s. Of these files, I can read/edit IPTC panel metadata for some of them in Bridge CS4; I can add metadata for all of them in CS6. I see no particular pattern in these files to explain what is and isn't read/editable in CS4.
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I'm using macs. I've tried this on multiple systems - for instance, on a mac pro 3 which for some reason has both CS4 and CS6 installed, i can add and edit keywords using CS6, but not when using CS4. Again, in CS4, some .mp4 files read/edit, others do not.
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Upgrading all affected computers to CS6/CC is beyond my control. I need to figure out why CS4 won't let me read/add/edit xmp metadata, if only for the sake of understanding the broader implications for interoperability.
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And if CS4 can read the data of some files it should be capable of reading them all. Be sure to have the files completely cached first, can take a while.
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Hi there. This is my first post here, so please forgive me if I make any errors of normal posting procedure. I'm hoping someone might be able to identify this problem please.
I am using Bridge CS4 v.3.0.0.464 and Photoshop CS4 v.11.0 and Camera RAW 5.0.0.178
On Windows Vista Home Premium 64 Bit service pack 2, and working mainly with jpg files from a Nikon D300s
I've noticed recently the following behaviour. If I label and/or rate some photos in Bridge, and then open those photos via Camera RAW, and then make adjustments to those photos in Camera RAW and open them directly from there into Photoshop, then the original file in Bridge looses all it's rating and label info, and shows a new modified date and time as of that moment.
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Best regards
Will

Welcome to the froum. Your submittal was great.
I don't know if this will fix your problems, but you need to update to the current versions and see where that takes you. Click on Downloads/updates at top of page.
You have Bridge CS4 v.3.0.0.464 and Photoshop CS4 v.11.0 and Camera RAW 5.0.0.178. Don't know what current version of Bridge is, but you need PS v. 11.0.1 which fixed a number of mistakes. Also, the current RAW is 5.6 I believe. I am still on CS3.
eatfirst wrote:
This only seems to happen if I actually edit the photo in Camera RAW, I do not ask to save it (and remember these are JPG files so as I understand it any changes in Camera RAW would not be saved unless I ask to resave the file itself) but to open it directly into Photoshop (and I then save the finished work as a copy to a different place from Photoshop) but the act of making an edit in Camera RAW seems to affect the original file settings in some way, and that looses the labelling etc.
Edits, keywords, and rating can be stored in the XMP file. This has the same name as the file and needs to move with the file or you will loose info. If you move or rename the file, and don't use Bridge, this file could be left behind. You can see this file in Bridge, if you have show hidden files clicked in View. You can look at it in Windows Explorer if you have "show hidden files".
Check to see if you have an XMP file in the new location. If not then do you workflow in stages and see if you have an XMP file after edits before you save it to another location.
Hope this helps.

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Is it possible to import metadata into LR3 that I've created in Bridge CS4?
Another thread here said it's possible, but there was no explanation on how to proceed.

Yes it is possible.
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Custom XMP panels don't show in Bridge CS4's Metadata palette

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In the old CS3 format, you could do this by adding an "fbname" attribute to fields of the custom panel. How do we now do this in the new SDK?
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