10.4 Tiger Server FTP has new mystery password

10.4.11 Server
I've been running the FTP site for my freelancers for 4 years without a hiccup. Over this past weekend it suddenly won't let them log on. When I go to administer the site to see what's up, there are 8 characters in the password box, but my password is 7 characters long. I've deleted the user and group and rebuilt twice using the same 7 character password but each time I leave the username, or the group setting, or Workgroup Manager and then go back in the password has changed back to 8 characters.
How do I reset this password so it will stick? Or, how do I discover what password the user is being assigned by the machine?
Of course I'm also curious how this could occur but right now it's much more important that my freelancers can access the FTP site as they have for 4 years without a problem.

there are 8 characters in the password box, but my password is 7 characters long. I've deleted the user and group and rebuilt twice using the same 7 character password but each time I leave the username, or the group setting, or Workgroup Manager and then go back in the password has changed back to 8 characters.
The box ALWAYS shows a fixed number of bullets. Passwords are immediately hashed, and it cannot determine the length of your existing password, only whether the password you entered is correct or not.
Here is another example of this:
"Regardless of how many characters are actually in a Mac OS X 10.2 password, seven bullet characters (•••••••) will appear in the New Password and Verify fields the next time the password is edited."
HT1274- Mac OS X: Changing or resetting an account password
Message was edited by: Grant Bennet-Alder

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Hi,
MySQL v. 4 is bundled with a default installation of Mac 10.4.11 "Tiger" Server. We'd like to upgrade to MySQL 5.0.67.
Has anyone else done this with success? It would be great if we could simply install from the package, however, is there any concern with removing the old (4) version of MySQL before installing the new (5) version?
Thnx,
Ted

I found what was the problem, saplocales package has not been installed successfully because of the glibc version (which is to new, 2.5) the supported one is 2.4.x.
I think as long as you can meet the requirements for kernel version, glibc version, saplocales and sapinit packages you can install SAP in any linux version that you want.
So the problem was that the table J2EE_CONFIGENTRY couldn't be populated because of missing saplocales package.
Thanks.
Adrian

Unable to Boot from Mac OS Tiger Server 10.4.0 Install CD

Hi,
I just picked up a Powermac G3 and am trying to install Tiger Server 10.4.0 from the install CD. The G3 won't boot from the CD (holding the c key at startup) and when I try to install from Open Firmware (using boot cd), I get the following message:
MAC PARTS: Load (noninterposed) not supported load-size0=adler32=1.
I'm assuming the above is bad news!
Other than booting, the CD appears to work fine. Also, the firmware is all up to date. The current version of OS on the G3 is 9.2.2 but unfortunately, I do not have any install disks for this (hence why I want to try and upgrade and install my legitimate server OS on it).
Other than that, all I can say is that it is a 300Mhz G3 Blue and White with what appears to be a 10gb hard drive. Other info from System Profiler is:
Ram: 256mb
Machine ID: 406
Mac OS Rom 9.2.1
I assume that Tiger would be a little bit choosy about some of the older hardware, but nevertheless would be grateful for any assistance as to whether this can be installed on this Powermac.
Thanks for your assistance.
Steve
PowerMac G3, PowerBook G4, 20" Intel iMac Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Did some research and it appears that puting Tiger server on a B&W is a lot more difficult than puting Tiger (workstation?) on a B&W. (i.e. You're not the only one with this problem.) The offered solutions have been to take your hard drive out and install server on it from another machine - which you can't do with the machines you have... unless you swap the drive out of your iMac.... but that's up to you. I wouldn't risk it.
The other option is to spring for a DVD drive that will work in your B&W and boot from the DVD and install that way. You can pick them up for about $50. (I know that's about what your B&W is worth, but that's life...) If you go this route, make sure you get a DVD that Apple has written the drivers for (Pioneer, NEC, etc. ) and built into the OS installer. My personal drive is an NEC ND-3540A. Picked it up at NewEgg.com. That's what I had to do to get Tiger on mine.
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