1080 footage in 720 sequence?

I've shot footage at 1080/30p and transcoded it using pro res, and i'm editing the resulting clips with 720 video (basically Youtube HD) and would like the clips to look good together. Should I just use a 720 sequence? What exactly happens to 1080 ProRes footage when dropped into a 720 timeline? Do I need to do any conversions before I edit?
Or, should I make the sequence 1080 and render out 720?
Input greatly appreciated!
Chris

I wish there were an easier way to explain this but there are many different approaches to the task and they complicates the matter.
To avoid red bars and rendering in the timeline, you must use clips that have already been converted to your timeline's base settings and codec.
To help you make a decision on how you approach the challenge, you might start with a look backwards from your output. If your output is 720, you could downconvert your 1080 and lose much less than upscaling your 720 to 1080 and then transcoding yet again.
You can create an output sequence designed to convert. Drop your clips into it one at a time, scale and position, then export to the new format. Name these movies carefully, reimport them.
You could batch process them all in a single Compressor run and Qmaster might help you speed up the process. (Umm, that's another forum and another set of issues.)
You could reload your tapes and transcode in realtime while you are capturing.
But you've got to decide how muchh work you want to do and what the benefits are in chosing any flow over another. For instance, if you are going to use your 720 footage in more 1080 projects, you want to invest in the upscale and use all manner of filtration and image controls so the footage is as beautiful as it can be. If you're not planning on using your 720 in any future 1080 projects, you can discard the upscaled footage as soon as you're done. that seems a bit wasteful.
bogiessan

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