16:9 motion menu with 16:9 hilites?

I cant get my hilites/overlays to match my 16:9 motion menus for the life of me!!!! They are always way off. Anyone have a secret? Been trying to read up on it but getting no where with results. Thanks!

I understand. I've never done it with multiple colors even though I knew it is possible. I try to keep it simple, and rather make anything around look funky.
Yeah the reason I do it that way (save as a JPEG so everything is flattened) is due to the fact that DVDSP can't read shadows, bevels and so on from PSDs, they need to be flattened. So I'd rather keep the PSD intact and be free to edit text and other elements without having to flatten over and over again. And then again, I can use the same PSD later if there's a new version or maybe use it for some other project, without inventing the wheel yet another time.
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Hi guys, I have a feeling my answer will be "that's the way it works" but I thought I'd double check anyway.
I have a menu with a motion video as the background. It is 30 seconds in length. I added a song that is 3 minutes in length. "loop forever". The result is that the motion video plays to completion and the song plays but then BOTH song and video start over. Is there any way to have the song keep playing in entirety while the motion video loops ? I have a feeling No.
If that's the case, I'm forced into choosing a video that is the same length as the song; true?
thanks in advance!

Just set the length of the motion menu to the length of the audio. The video should freeze on the last frame for the extra duration. But accor4ding to problems reported here, this often does not work correctly.
Best results use a video and audio that are the same length.

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I have created a motion menu with video as an intro, then I want to transition (dissolve or FX) to a standard graphic menu made in photoshop as a single layer with simple buttons overlayed in DVDSP, all with a single, unbroken music track under both as it plays. Can it be done?

Can't be done. Each element (menus, transtions, tracks, ect) are all located in their own "container" within the DVD structure. Because of this, you cannot have unbroken audio.
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Regards Trevor

Hi Atlanta video,
I want to ask few questions to understand the issue.
1. Are you able to burn same project sucessfully even once ?
2. Can you attach motion menu that is crashing while rendering ?
3. Is this crash consistent ?
4. Is this crash happens with only specific size motion menu (1920x1080 , 1440 x1080) ?
Also please attach crash dump .
If you are on Mac you will get crash data ,if you are on windows please follow the instructions to copy the crash dump:
"when the crash occurs and windows error reporting throws the dialog ‘windows is collecting information’ , let it run as its creating the dumps etc and then when the ‘send error report’ dialog comes, it shows path to 3 files if you enlarge the dialog with ‘view details’.
Two of those are general app info files, third is a actual dump file (with extension .mdmp). While this dialog is open we can copy the .mdmp from the temp location"
This information will help in isolating the issue.
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I have motion menu with sound with endless loop.
in the first loop it plays well and from the second loop and
on the sound starts in delay. Does anyone have an idea for the reason
and how to solve it?
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This is a known issue with the use of Preview. One needs to Burn to Folder, as you are doing, or Burn a DVD RW to test. It's one of the things that one gets used to. Do not know what the exact cause of this is n Preview, but it's been around long enough, that if it were an easy fix, Adobe would have nailed it by now. Do not know if it happened back in Encore 1 (wasn't that the last ver. to use DirectShow?), but from Encore2, it's been there. Nature of the "beast."
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Music in motion menu

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I have created a motion menu with sound. The graphics fly around and settle and then the overlay appears at the loop point set. However, because I have the music starting at the beginning of the motion menu when the loop kicks in the music begins abruptly. Is there any way of fading in the music at this point.
kevin

You need to plan and edit the audio and video content so that the loop point will work as you'd hope. There is no setting in DVDSP to fade the audio up when you jump to a loop point.
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Just guessing!
I would suspecty a race condition. Most likely the signaling event gets triggered before the other locals receive their respective values.
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Issue with Motion Menu looping in CS6

Greetings all! I have been troubled with a recurring issue in a project I've been working on for a while where my Main Menu (the only one I have with a moving background) will not loop correctly. I am not an Encore veteran so there may be something simple that I'm doing wrong and just haven't caught yet... or perhaps this is some weird bug, I'm not sure. Here is what I've set up and the problem I'm having:
My Main Menu has 4 buttons: one goes to a primary video and the others are 3 submenus... all submenus work fine and can link back to the Main Menu without issue and when the Main Menu first loads, it also works fine with the video in the background playing normally. The primary video linked from the Main Menu also returns to the Main Menu as its End Action. My problem arises when the Main Menu is allowed to reach the end of its video and loops back to the beginning again before navigating away to another part of the disc. When it loops, the background video plays all the way through a second time like you would expect, however the menu is no longer interactive and no buttons can be pressed (the highlight also disappears on the second loop). Following the conclusion of the second loop, the Main Menu doesn't loop a third time but rather jumps randomly to about chapter 2 or 3 of the primary video! I have definitely not set it to do this. I was not sure what to do about the End Action of the Main Menu itself, as the "Motion" tab of the Menu's properties has a drop-down for looping the motion part... thus so far I have the End Action set to "Main Menu: Default". The motion background video is 45 seconds long and I have tried messing with the loop settings under the Motion tab, but it hasn't seemed to make much of a difference, it still breaks. Just for clarification, this is an error which I didn't notice right away because it appears to loop through the menu a second time normally, but the error occurs after the first play of the motion menu. Also, it happens both in preview and when I burn it to a disc.
If anyone else has experienced an issue like this or happens to know what I did wrong, please let me know so I can finally get this DVD project over with! I would be most grateful! Thank you!

Project corruption most frequently occurs because one or more changes are made and Encore gets "confused." But we rarely know why some such changes behave correctly and others do not.
If you must change an asset use a different name, never ever simply overwrite.
This just may be the issue then... Using Adobe's fancy "Dynamic Link" thingy I did edit a few assets after importing them into Encore. Sadly, I think Encore is definitely confused by this as now every time I open my project it prompts me to re-import one of the assets because it detected "changes" when in fact I have not changed it more than once and it is just trying to re-import the same thing over and over. I really wish I'd known to take these measure beforehand as I'm not sure how long it'll take now to rebuild the project completely, but I suppose I have no other choice if I want a working menu... wish me luck!
I'd like to note, however, that the asset that it always prompts me for is NOT related in any way to the Main Menu that is causing problems. It's an asset linked to from a different submenu. Also, I had planned everything out first, but as you might expect, little hiccups appear along the way and things need to be tweaked to have them work the way you want. Or maybe you think to add something later that you hadn't thought of before, it actually happens pretty often.
Still, it seems like Adobe is trying to promote the easy manipulation of assets within projects with the Dynamic Link feature. I really hate how these softwares do not even work the way they should... and yet Adobe charges people insane amounts of money for them.
Is there any good DVD authoring software that isn't so temperamental? I apologize if this isn't the appropriate place to ask... just curious for the sake of my own sanity.

How can I make a menu with button's that fade-in?

I've built a motion menu in AE, and had added text layers/buttons that fade-in through layer>Encore>Create Button. Once I import this into Encore through dynamic link I cannot link the buttons to the motion menu. I've added a sample.
Basically all I want is the play feature, Scene selection ,and credits to be selectable after they finish fading in @ the :20 mark. I don't want the menu to loop either.
I've tried to make a static menu(from last frame in AE) play after this, but, there is a one second gap or so before that static menu plays which just looks tacky. I have tried this in preview, and rendered it to a dvd with the same result.
All the tutorials i've come across really don't answer this question either.
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Motion menu / poor quality / low resolution

Hi everyone,
I'm having some trouble with motion menu resolution.
I'm working on a project that consists of six short video clips. As first play, I'm using an asset that contains all six video's. After this, I want to introduce a motion menu showing the six clips - allowing the viewer to watch certain clips again and again.
To achieve this, I created separate tracks for each of the clips, and dragged these from the outline window to the menu window.
The project is working (basically) how I want it to, except that the resolution / image quality of the clips in the motion menu is not anywhere near sufficient.
I know that the 'simulate' option is limited in this respect, but I'm talking about the menu as it is shown in apple dvd player. I first tried building the project and viewing it in apple dvd player, and even burned an actual dvd to see if that would help - which it didn't.
I have searched the manual and these forums for answers but haven't been able to find a solution.
Here's hoping someone has an idea!
Thanks in advance,
Lianne.
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Hi Drew, you again Thanks for your response.
After reading the manual chapter you mentioned and a chapter it refers to, I decided that my menu does need to be rendered. It said in the manual that changing the final rendering from hardware to software should result in a better result. I tried that and I do think the resolution is marginally better - still no good though!
The video tracks themselves (which were used to create the buttons in the motion menu) look fine, even when I stretch the window to the max. This suggests to me that the video in itself is okay. I don't understand why the same clips look so bad in a menu where they are only 1/8 the size? I would expect quite the opposite...
Might it have something to do with the way I've created the buttons (i.e. dragging from the outline window?). I'm going to try and create the menu in a different way.
In the meantime, suggestions are still more than welcome!

For all of you who are having Motion Menu render problems - try this

Just humour me for a minute.
I have another Sonic application, and a known bug in the Motion Menu rendering applies to 29.97DF projects only.
IE, NTSC.
Often the video in a motion menu will fail to mux.
There are workarounds though.
1 - Make sure your GOP structure is 15 at most
2 - Make certain the frame length of your video file is divisible by the GOP structure. IE, it must be a multiple of 15 frames.
3 - if these both fail, reduce the bitrate of the video 500kbps at a time until it muxes. Most will work at 7,000, some need to be 6,000 and there are even times when you need to go as low as 4000.
Try it - Encore uses a Sonic Authorcore, so it's worth a look.

>Are you saying that NTSC 29.97 divided by 15 is okay?
Not really.
What I am saying is that your movie frame length should be divisible by the GOP structure with a GOP of 15.
With NTSC video, you can have GOP lengths
i up to
18, but it is not mandatory to go to 18 - 15 is a perfectly acceptable figure. You could use a GOP of 12 if you really wanted to. What this means is typically the number of frames between I-Frames.
MPEG-2 encoding (AKA "Moving Pictures by Educated Guesswork") P & B frames work something like this:
i P-frames provide more compression than I-frames because they take advantage of the data in the previous I-frame or P-frame. I-frames and P-frames are called reference frames. To generate a P-frame, the previous reference frame is reconstructed, just as it would be in a TV receiver or DVD player. The frame being compressed is divided into 16 pixel by 16 pixel macroblocks. Then, for each of those macroblocks, the reconstructed reference frame is searched to find that 16 by 16 macroblock that best matches the macroblock being compressed. The offset is encoded as a "motion vector." Frequently, the offset is zero. But, if something in the picture is moving, the offset might be something like 23 pixels to the right and 4 pixels up. The match between the two macroblocks will often not be perfect. To correct for this, the encoder computes the strings of coefficient values as described above for both macroblocks and, then, subtracts one from the other. This "residual" is appended to the motion vector and the result sent to the receiver or stored on the DVD for each macroblock being compressed. Sometimes no suitable match is found. Then, the macroblock is treated like an I-frame macroblock. The processing of B-frames is similar to that of P-frames except that B-frames use the picture in the following reference frame as well as the picture in the preceding reference frame. As a result, B-frames usually provide more compression than P-frames. B-frames are never reference frames.
In short, the I-Frame is the full description reference frame. A P frame is also a reference frame but describes the difference between the last I-Frame & itself. A good analogy is when you are on the telephone & describing what you see to a friend. The initial background description (The street, the sky, what you can see etc) would be an I-Frame. Then you describe a person walking down the street - that would be your P-Frames, as you are only describing the i changes
in the scene.
The bitrate can also affect things - I mentioned this too, and if a motion menu will not mux, first make sure that the film length is divisible by the GOP, and that the GOP is 15.
If it
i still
won't mux, drop the bitrate by factors of 500 until it will.

Motion menu not working

I'm frustrated. In the menu, under Properties/Motion tab, I select the video that I want to set up as my motion menu and it's not working. All I see is a static image of the video clip. The audio works but not the video clip set for motion. Please help.

But what I remembered is using part of a clip in Encore and I had a hell of a job to, anyway, unsuccessfully work the sound out ok. This is when I made the exact clip I needed in PP and imported it in Encore. Then I set the loop for ever. This way you can have this clip playing till someone chose what to wathch. I guess it's nice to have some movie starting automatically when there are not to many choices from them.
When doing both a Motion Menu and also adding Audio to it, you will probably be best served to Export these as elemental streams from PrPro, and Import those into Encore.
I will create a new Sequence in the Project, and create the Video part to the intended Duration for the Motion Menu. Same for my Audio, and often do this in yet another Sequence. I will chose Audio source files with quite a bit of repetition during the Duration, and a fade-in/fade-out to it. I've marked a half-dozen SmartSound pieces, that work very well for this.
The Video is Exported as DV-AVI Type II, with NO Audio, and multiplexing is turned off.
The Audio is Exported as either PCM/WAV 48KHz 16-bit, or AC3 DD 5.1 SS through the SurCode encoder (plug-in that costs ~US$250) for Surround Sound, NO Video and no multiplexing, obviously.
Doing it this way solves a lot of potential problems. Muxed files can cause issues with En, though not always.
One caveat that I learned the hard way - if you have Audio on your Menu and also Button Transitions with Audio, you will want the Audio for each to match perfectly in format and CODEC. Otherwise you will probably loose the Audio in one, or the other. Last caveat - stay as far away from MP3's as you can. Some work, some just do not and the quality will already have suffered greatly. I only use these for some of my SFX in PrPro and never, never for anything else.
Good luck and don't forget to Render those Motion Menus... [Grin]
Hunt

Freeze between the end of a timeline and a menu with video.

Hi,
I have a timeline with some content advisor in the beginning of my encore cs3 project, then redirects to another timeline with a segment of a video, after that it redirects to the menu with another video (that video is the continuation of the previous one, and it is where the fusion occurs.)
The problem is that after redirect to the menu, it freezes for 2 secs. Is there any way to avoid that freeze? Or at least smooth it?

Bruno Gargaglione wrote:
Thanks for answering me.
However I still have some questions regarding this proccess:
1) Why AVI or MOV instead of M2V? If I export avi or mov from PP I will get my footage transcoded in encore.
2) Why can't I use in PP the PSD Menu I am using in my project in encore (without having to export from Encore)?
and the most important:
3) When I turn off visibility for all menu layers, how come they show up after it? After the loop point?
I understood almost the entire proccess and the reason you have to turn off the visibility for all menu layers but not how they show up after the loop point.
How?
1. You could export an M2V file from Premiere if you like, but then you'll need to make doubly sure that you have no visible menu layers in Encore, or Encore will render the motion menu and re-transcode your m2v to m2v again. If you used an AVI instead, Encore will transcode it to M2V. Either way, it will end up as M2V on the DVD. The key thing is to avoid re-transcoding.
2. I don't really understand your question. Do you want to somehow use the same PSD file Encore is using as your menu? If so, you'll have to dig in the Sources folder for that. It's really much simpler to export the PSD from Encore and use that. There is no quality loss in doing this, and far less chance of messing up your Encore file structure than if you go digging around in the Sources folder for the original that Encore uses. Just export the menu as a PSD from Encore and use that in Premiere...trust me, I'm a doctor.
3. You do this so that Encore doesn't render your menu Photoshop layers over the first video clip you are using as your menu video background.
* Regarding your last "How?" question...there are no menu layers on a menu when it's written to DVD - a menu is written to disc as an MPEG-2 still file (or in a motion menu case such as yours, an MPEG-2 video file) with a button highlight overlay to show your button selection status.
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Change color in an Encore motion menu background

I am thinking about using an existing Encore menu but I would like to take the moving background which is shades of blue and change it to shades of another color. I've done this in PS for fixed backgrounds by right clicking and sending the menu to photoshop.
However I am not sure 100% on how to do this for a pre-built menu with motion? I assume it is some kind of workflow of adding the menu to an Encore project and then sending the video from that timeline (as a video track not a menu?) to Pre Pro and using color tools there to replace color, etc.....then rendering it with an appropriate codec and somehow marrying it back with the original menu buttons, etc. in Encore..
Just not sure how to make that all happen! Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
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You are on the right track. A Motion Menu uses a Video Asset (and maybe an Audio Asset too), for the motion.
All you have to do is create a Video Asset, or modify an existing one, Import that into Encore as an Asset, and then use the Pickwhip to link to that for the Motion Menu Background.
Once, those Video Assets for Motion Menus were WMV files, but in those days, Encore was ported for the PC only. Now, with X-platform capabilities, the format is M2v.
I would take the Motion Menu Background Video into PrPro, adjust the colors, and change it, in any way you need, then Export that for Import into Encore. If you have used a Menu Template, then there will be an existing Motion Menu Background Video already associated with it. Just use the Pickwhip to change that association.
Good luck,
Hunt

Need menu with just simple text

I'm importing a simple graphic for the main menu's background (mostly black, with a logo at the bottom). There are 3 short movies the viewer can access from the main menu.
Having trouble finding a theme that lets me type just the TEXT of the movies -- don't want icons, buttons, or gray background beneath the title.
So -- the finished DVD will have a main menu with just the names of the 3 movie files, over black, with the logo at the bottom.
Can someone help?

A lot of the old themes work well. For example 'Green Linen'
If you are working 4:3 create a black 720x540 pixel images for use as the background and drop it in the background image well. Use 854x480 for widescreen.
(For PAL, the figures are 768x576 and 1024x576)
BTW, You need to put you logo on this black background image.
Drag-and-drop your movies on the black background in the iDVD menu view; click on each name to make it show the name you want. (You will be able to change the font and font color.)
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