24" Cinema - Geforce versus Radeon

So I'm ready to go get my 24" LED cinema screen next week. After reading numerous posts here I am confident the Geforce GT120 card will work in my early 2008 Mac Pro, even though Apple says it will not.
Question is this: I will be trading in my Radeon X1900 in favor of the Geforce GT120, is that like taking a step backward??

I can attest to the combination of the GEForce 120 + 24" LED Cinema Display + Early 2008 Mac Pro. It just works. The guys at my local Apple store expressed puzzlement at why it isn't certified since they know of many people who have upgraded to this combination. I've tested every function on the monitor with every function I know of on the computer and video card. They all work as designed. Perhaps Apple will eventually certify the combination but I assure you it works.

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Wondering if any one has more info on this?

I don't know about HL2 specifics, but that aside: no, an ATI 9600pro is not nearly as powerful as an nvidia 5900xt. Right now, I wouldn't buy either, however, unless you plan to run last year's games (or future games but at very very low resolutions). If you can afford to spend a little extra, I recommend the ATI 9800pro. Or, if you can wait, AGP versions of ATI's X700 and nvidia's 6600GT promise to significantly elevate what you can achieve at the $200 price point. Problem is, first versions of both cards are pci-express only, not AGP. Pretty silly, considering most pci-express systems right now are high end ones.
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Hello
I have MSI Personal Cinema FX 5200 128 MB DDR.
My sound card is CREATIVE Live 5.1 .
I have sound in WINDVR only in Windows XP Professional and
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I have sound in WINDVR only in Windows XP Professional and
in other version of windows i haven't sound.
Other version of Windows?
We need a little more info than that if you want anything remotely helpful from anyone here.
Take a look at some of the thread in here and notice the signature that most users have you can edit it in your profile information.
Then provide some info on what you did or the process in wich you installed the drivers and the utilities.
If you have a dual boot setup did you use the latest drivers for each OS?

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ATI users, gamers, and 3D hobbyists, be all ears!
As you may have experienced, the official 'catalyst' driver has an unbelievable amount of bugs and poor Unix integration.
* Poor Xorg support.
* Poor use of Linux's DRI/DRM interfaces, no KMS.
* Wine gaming is a real pain (poor performances, crashes, glitches).
In my opinion, Catalyst is really holding back graphics development (e.g. gaming) in the Unix world. But there may be light at the end of the tunnel.
You may have heard of it: the free 'radeon' driver did tremendous improvements recently, to such extent that high performance with 3D applications can be taken back into consideration. Every new update is a huge performance boost. Yes, we can actually play a lot of games with the free radeon driver now.
This driver is really a gift to Unix, since it means that 3D would finally be available unrestricted for free (speaking of the software). But if you want this to happen, we need to endorse the development, at least by using it and reporting bugs, if not contributing to the source code directly.
I think a benchmark page can help: by showing where radeon performs equally if not better, it would encourage users and especially newcomers to give it a try.
I've started a benchmarking reference on the following wiki page:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ta … sus_Radeon
We need more games and a wider range of hardware. Everyone is welcome to contribute!

AMD user here, because Ati is long dead.
Wine gaming is a pain compared to Nvidia, because Wine devs use the "special" Nvidia shaders, when the "normal" OpenGL shaders are failing or so. And because Nvidia don't see the bugs (because it is working for them), Nvidia gets this special treatment in Wine. And because this is going on for a while, the "normal" (Nvidia-)gamer will say, that AMD drivers suck. Well, they do, but in this scenario, not everything is wrong on AMDs side. I guess, this hurts open drivers as well, but because they are, performancewise, too weak, no one cares atm.
A, benchmarks. I'll contribute to it:
Unigine Valley Benchmark: Doesn't run with radeon driver.

30 Inch Cinema Display and Radeon ATI 9650

I have a problem with the above combination of kit. I have the resolution set to its highest but but am still getting fuzzy text and also pixelly icons in the dock. When I look in the system profiler it says that I have a Radeon ATI 9600. Anyone got any ideas?

Just received new 30" ACD with Radeon ATI 9650, and having same problem (max resolution at 1280x800) like above...
Is that a maximum resolution I get? or did I do something wrong?
Everything is huge and fuzzy...
need help~~~
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Mac Mini: Intel HD 3000 versus Radeon 6630M

In researching the purchase of my *(upcoming) new Mac Mini, I found these two articles on the GPU processors now used in the Mac Mini lineup 2011.
Intel HD 3000
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-3000.37948.0.html
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Radeon HD 6630M
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6630M.43963.0.html
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Dual Cinema Displays - Worth it?

Greetings to all!
I just wanted to ask about the general opinion of the Apple Cinema Displays versus some other various Widescreen LCD's out there at the moment.
I'd like to run a pair of 20 Inch units off a Quad G5, however, I'm looking at the specs for the Cinema Display, and they don't appear to be too impressive (14ms Response time?) for a $999 Monitor.
For reference, I'm also considering the Viewsonic VX2505WM and the Acer AL2016W.
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SC

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GeForce GTX 465
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GeForce GTX 285
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If you like my post, or solution to your issue/question, go ahead and click on the little star by my name and/or accept the post as the Solution. It makes me happy.
I'm NOT an employee of Best Buy, or Geek Squad, though I did work as an Agent for a year 5 years ago. None of my posts are to be taken as the official stance that Best Buy will take on your situation. My advice is just that, advice.
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Greetings and welcome to the Apple boards.
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Your Digital Audio is a generation or two old, and a little slow by nature. Having said that, it's a competent and capable Mac and would do with a little updating.
Max out the memory: it takes 1.5GHz RAM, or 2 more PC133 512MB non-ECC (non error checking) SDRAM sticks.
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Swap your processor for a faster one: a DA 733MHz is a plug'n'play fit; a 933MHz CPU from a 2002 Quicksilver - complete with heatsink, fan, shroud, and jumper wire to the "fourth post" - is a fairly easy and very rewarding upgrade.
Hang on to your pocketbook. You will easily spend more than the DA is worth, and the video will never match a new machine. (I think I said that before.)
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