2700K vs 3930K

Right now, I think the above is the most interesting comparison for new system builders.  The former is a little cheaper, the latter may well be faster, but enough to justify the price difference?
The problem is that it's difficult to find these two processors in a head-to-head with several relevant apps.  I found a couple sites that list a Cinebench comparison, and the 3930K performed a decent amount better.  But I'd love to see more video and audio benchmarks of these two processors at stock speeds.  If anyone comes across a site that has done such testing, please post.

and again Harm Most users do not need a large raid array (unless they want redundacy) and even that should be backed up...
in fact i would say of all the systems we sell, a large raid array is only in 15% of them (guessing but close)
realistically the cost between the 2700k and 3930k is pretty nominal
$300 on the processor and about $100 on the board.
for $400 i know what i would buy. but to some $400 is a breaking point. plus to make it worth it (unless doing animation etc) you have to buy the raid card and 8 enterprise drives
whats funny Harm is YOU dont need the raid array you have... nor do most others.
Actually, even that depends on the workflow. Most consumers (as opposed to professionals and even some prosumers) do not need a large RAID array because the formats that they work with needs a fast CPU but not so much in the way of disk I/O bandwidth. Pros and some prosumers really do need both a fast CPU and high disk I/O throughput (in fact, faster than any three-disk aid0 can provide) because they are working with formats that have both high resolution and high video bandwidth and also because some NLEs automatically convert compressed video to uncompressed RGB and then back at editing level. A two-disk aid0 is hardly sufficient for uncompressed HD work (some NLEs automatically convert compressed HD video to uncompressed at editing level) even if the two disks in that aid0 are the fastest drives currently on the market.

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    I'm planning to buy a MSI Z68A-GD55 (G3) motherboard and a Intel i7 2700k CPU but now is my question? Does this combo work out of the box on this motherboard because I read the i7 2700k needs Bios version N2 to work properly?
    What if an older Bios version is present on the Z68A-GD55 (G3) motherboard? Will it boot then so I can flash a new Bios on it or will it not run at all?

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    What if an older Bios version is present on the Z68A-GD55 (G3) motherboard? Will it boot then so I can flash a new Bios on it or will it not run at all?
    We can only speculate on that, but chances are pretty good, as the 2700K and 2600K are very similar. My suspicion is that it may only have minor voltage algorithm changes for differing load conditions.
    You will need to test it when you get it. If it works and its stable, then no problem.
    Alternatively, if you feel uncomfortable, you can always take it to a local PC shop and ask their assistance in using a compatible CPU to flash the BIOS.
    One of our users changed to a 2700K with the GD80 board and it did work. He did a BIOS flash afterwards.
    Test it when you get it.

  • Z68A-GD55(G3) 2700K support

    Having the exact same issue with the same spec's (i7 2700k), but can't get the board to flash. It will not find the BIOS file in the root of my flash drive. It's very strange. I have tried several flash drives with the same problem. Would leaving the two sticks of ram instead of just one (as you instructed) cause this issue? At work right now and it just dawned on me that I might have left the second stick in DIMM slot 2 when I tried to flash it.

    Quote from: HU16E on 23-March-12, 01:54:16
    Unless your mainboard has UEFI/BIOS vM5 or vM6, the CPU is not supported. You will have to use a supported CPU or have a pc shop flash the board for you.
    Added: In dimm slot 2? RAM should be in the blue slots 1 and 3 for dual channel. Yes, it is recommended to only have a single RAM stick installed in the primary dimm slot when flashing.
    2nd add: After a flash, another recommendation is to always do a power off, battery removed CMOS clear and reset.
    Sorry for the confusion, I have the G3 board, but pretty sure the i7 2700k is supported http://us.msi.com/product/mb/Z68A-GD55--G3-.html#/?div=CPUSupport
    but yes if I put the RAM in DIMM slots 1 and 3 it will not boot...put them in 1 and 2 and it will....I was under the impression that if the RAM is dual channel it must go in the 1 and 3 slots....

  • Starting up stops at "Late CPU Initialization" (i7-3930K + X79A-GD45)

    Hi Alll!
    I bought an I7-3930K CPU and an MSI X79A-GD45 motherboard. It doesn't work
    The starting up process fails. It not reaches the phase when monitor is working, it always restarts in loop.  Before restarting the debug LED panel shows "67" for 10 seconds. User Guide says "67" is "LATE CPU INITIALIZATION".
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    I think the BIOS version could be a problem, but I dont know the version of my mobo's BIOS because ther is no any sticker on the board wich shows the version number. Could somebody tell me how I can know the BIOS version without any screen informaitons? Does anybody have the same problem?
    Thanks in advance!

    yes that date code is the 7th of October 2011 and you need a BIOS update to 19th of January 2012 or later to support the CPU you have!
    yes that's a typo you need to update the the BIOS for your Sandy bridge E processor. I guess Xmad just slipped there a little and wrote it down wrong as it should have been before not after.
    so to tell you what to do you need a low end LGA2011 CPU or you will have to take the board to a shop that has a SPI flash programmer to flash the BIOS chip to get the CPU working on your board without issue. its your choice (possible a shop may be able to install a CPU that's supported and update the BIOS chip for you to get that 3930K working on the board for a fee?)

  • Thermal paste for i7 3930k to Nuctua CPU cooler?

    I'm considering using Arctic silver 5 as the thermal interface between my 3930k and Nuctua NH-DI4 SE 2011 cooler. Is Arctic silver 5 a good choice? (The 3930k will be overclocked).
    I was to use Liquid Ultra , but Coolaboratory somehow botched my order, so it might not arrive for some weeks now.
    A store nearby store has Arctic silver 5 in stock, and I could pick some up today, if it's a suitable thermal paste for my build.

    That is what I bought when I built my computer... older, so mine is not a 3930, but the paste still works well
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007
    With over 5 thousand people giving it 5 of 5 "eggs" I would say it is very good

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