3D Graph Render Window Programmatically

Hello!
does anybody know how to open the "Render window" of a 3D graph programmatically?
Thanks
I ask my question for the second time because nobody replied the first time, maybe it was not clear.

Thanks Darin,
it's what I'm looking for but I'm not using the same picture control so the idea is quite different. Attached some screenshots to show what I'm using exactly. If you have any idea how to open that Render Window programmatically, that would be really nice.
Regards,
Jimmy
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3D Graph Render Window Programmatically

Hello Guys,
you know it is possible to right click on a 3D picture graph object in run-time and get a new movable window with "Render Window". I would like to be able to open directly that window instead of the front panel picture control.
Actually I have a 2D graph which allows me to see a basic map, I enter a formula for Z(X,Y) and I want to optionnaly show the 3D result. The X,Y plane is more important than the 3D and the XY graph is more efficient, so I don't want the 3D all the time. Actually it works, I just change the Visible property value True/False and it's okay, but the render window is more efficient, the one on the front panel is a bit slow with mouse dragging...
Do you know if there is any property or method to open, close this render window programmatically?
By the way, I would like to know if it is possible to manage "Run-Time Shortcut Menu" for any front panel control, as it is possible with VI Menu bar with event structure. There is a reference constant for the menu bar. I don't find the menu reference for a control.
Thanks for reading,
Jimmy

Thanks Darin,
it's what I'm looking for but I'm not using the same picture control so the idea is quite different. Attached some screenshots to show what I'm using exactly. If you have any idea how to open that Render Window programmatically, that would be really nice.
Regards,
Jimmy
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Run-Time Menu.png ‏83 KB
Diagram.png ‏73 KB

Render Window Programatically, is it possible?

Hi all, i am trying to use the 64 bit 3d Graph Render window to take advantage of hardware acceleration. I would however like to call the render window programatically. Does anyone know of a way to do this?
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Saying a bit more about what that render window is would certainly help! Is it an ActiveX component, or a .Net Control? Or maybe some DLL? I assume you don't mean the LabIVEW 3D Picture Control, since controlling that programmatically is really all there is about this control.
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a division of Test & Measurement Solutions

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I already posted this report in the Breakpoint board, breaking the rules...
Therefore this is not exactly a duplicate post, since it should allow some discussion.
I just downloaded LV 8.6, as I could not wait to have a look at the new long time awaited 3D graphs primitives, said to run also on MacOS. This is a GREAT new feature. The 3D surface graph works great, but I also found some new bugs (probably known already by the development team since they are pretty obvious, but who knows...).
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I better stop now since my wife is desperately asking me to pack my luggage before we leave for NIweek ! See (some of) you soon in Austin !
Message Edité par chilly charly le 08-03-2008 08:20 AM
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I wasn't studious enough : adding a line (problem #7 above) is easy : just drop another 3D graph on the front panel, this will brings in a new create_plot_line.vi on the diagram. Get rid of the additionnal 3D graph indicator, and wire the previous one to the new vi. See the attached graph, where two yellow lines have been drawn on each side the base of the peaks.
Not yet possible to change the line thickness, but works nicely.
I now have to customize my function palette to make the "native 3D graphs" directly accessible.
One additionnal concern though : with the old ActiveX, it was possible (if not simple... ) to insert functionnal 3D graphs in Powerpoint presentations (see this thread). Is there any way to achieve a similar result with the native 3D graphs ?
Message Edité par chilly charly le 08-03-2008 09:32 AM
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Premiere Elements 8 under Windows 7: HOW TO DO?

My system is a MICROSTAR (MEDION) Quadcore 6600(think it's made by MSI) with 4GB memory, 2 x 1TB HD Wetern Digital GREEN (replacing the very poor quality Seagates 2 x 500Gig originaly installed) and running Windows 7 64 and 32 Ultimate. The 32 version was installed especially for PE8
Why I didn't stay with PE7?
Strange enough, PE7 worked perfectly under Windows 7 64bit RC and RTM, but with the Official release of Windows 7 32 or 64 Ultimate, it was finished with the Happy Hour, Crash, crash, crash all the time!
So I downloaded from Adobe a official PE8 and started very happily with it.
But it was CRASH & GO all the way !!!
I have send a few messages to Adobe Contact, which deviated me to this forum so I could spit my poison far from their "Ivory Tower" No answers or help from them. PE8 is paid, so go to ...
I found out immediately that I was one of the many people to regret this "Buy of the Year", but since PE7 didn't work and Windows 7 is so good that I don't want to go back to XP or Vista, I had to find a way to make this SH.. work. Luckily the Forum proposed me a few solutions for which I am very grateful.
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First of all I disabled the GPU-thing in the preferences, then I disabled the "Background rendering".
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Anyhow, these few minor changes seem to have solved a lot of crash problems.
Also, NEVER open a PE7 project in PE8 !!!!! It's really not 100% compatible: no way to render previews and crashes guarantied!
Be very careful in applying transitions and video effects, especially if you start cumulating them. Maybe they will work in preview, but you never know if you will be able to render a film or DVD from it.
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This PE8 should have been written for 64 bit, so it would have suffered much less memory problems, then now.
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Automatic backup creates now 5 instead of one file.
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With PE7, you could see in which map the project you wanted to open was situated, here not.
Place of the Project changed, without reason, change for the fun of change?
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NO, YOU CANNOT !!!!
If your project was started in PE7 and you import that project to PE8, you cannot, I REPEAT, you CANNOT render this files to a preview.
You wil get the render window, but no counter or anything else will move or happen.
Nothing, rien , nada, niets, nichts!!!!!!
At least not here on neither of the 3 installations which I did under 3 different Windows 7 !!!!

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