7950 with 7970 pcb

Hello to the community! I am in the market for a new card and is eying the 7950 twin frozr 3 with 7970 pcb because I will be watercooling it. Is there any way to know by just looking at the box details that the card have 7970 reference pcb? Does it have a different SKU or does it have a particular serial number? Thank you and hopefully people can help me here before I pull the trigger since I already have the waterblock and it would be a shame if the card I get won't accept the block.

Hard to say. You can't tell with what PCB the card will come. Some say R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5/OC usually comes with 7970 PCB but don't count on that. The new R7950 TF 3GD5/OC BE is for sure changed to 7950 PCB (two 6 pin PCI-E power connectors) so pretty likely the whole linup will be or is already changed to 7950 PCBs. The only chance would be a R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5/OC but as I said it is not guaranteed you get a 7970 PCB

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7950 twin frozr on 7970 pcb

I've been reading on other forum sites that the 7950 twin frozr was built on 7970 PCB with 8-pin and 6-pin power connectors. Can anyone confirm if all of these cards made recently come with the 7970 PCB or if just some of the cards are coming with the 7970 PCB?

The R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5/(OC) are built on a custom MSI PCB. It uses two 6-pin power connectors. Never heard of a 7950 Twin Frozr on a 7970 pcb. Maybe it were little numbers of rev. 1 or so but don't expect that from a new bought retail product.

Problems with 7970 not booting.

I have a 7970 that won't boot. Screen is blank, but the bottons work when I ry to factory it, so I know it's not totally bricked. I've tried to factory the phone with both "3491672850*#" and "123456789*0#" methods, but no matter what I try, it doesn't seem to want to suck up all the files from the TFTP server. I get a bunch of different results:
Sometimes it will suck down term70.default.loads, then hang.
Sometimes it will suck down term70.default.loads, then suck the same file down again, then hang.
Sometimes it will suck down term70.default.loads, then jar70sccp.8-3-2-27.sbn, then hang.
Sometimes it will suck down term70.default.loads, then jar70sccp.8-3-2-27.sbn, then jar70sccp.8-3-2-27.sbn again, then hang.
Sometimes it will suck down term70.default.loads, then jar70sccp.8-3-2-27.sbn, then cnu70.8-3-2-27.sbn, then hang.
I have the phone connected to a Linksys switch. A 3825 connected to the Linksys and my laptop connected to another port on the linksys. The 3825 is the DHCP and TFTP server. The files were taken off of CCO directly, so I know they're not corrupt or anything.
I've been able to ping flood the 3825 from my laptop with no packet-loss and the phone auto-negotiated to 100/full on the linksys, so by all indications the network is fine.
Something I'm missing?
term70.default.loads references these files, in order:
jar70sccp.8-3-2-27.sbn
cnu70.8-3-2-27.sbn
apps70.8-3-2-27.sbn
dsp70.8-3-2-27.sbn
cvm70sccp.8-3-2-27.sbn
ip dhcp pool voice
network 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0
option 150 ip 10.0.0.2
default-router 10.0.0.2
interface GigabitEthernet0/0
ip address 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.0
load-interval 30
duplex auto
speed auto
media-type rj45
tftp-server flash:SCCP70.8-3-3S.loads
tftp-server flash:cvm70sccp.8-3-2-27.sbn
tftp-server flash:jar70sccp.8-3-2-27.sbn
tftp-server flash:apps70.8-3-2-27.sbn
tftp-server flash:cnu70.8-3-2-27.sbn
tftp-server flash:dsp70.8-3-2-27.sbn
tftp-server flash:term70.default.loads
telephony-service
no auto-reg-ephone
em logout 0:0 0:0 0:0
max-ephones 144
max-dn 500
ip source-address 10.0.0.2 port 2000
load 7970 SCCP70.8-3-3S
dialplan-pattern 1 4165551212 extension-length 4
max-conferences 12 gain -6
transfer-system full-consult
secondary-dialtone 9
create cnf-files version-stamp Jan 01 2002 00:00:00
ephone-dn 11 dual-line
number 1001
name Jason Lixfeld
ephone 1
mac-address 0019.563D.CC55
type 7970
button 1:11

Hi,
I actually tried something stupid. Maybe I did not realise it while i did it but later on knew that both phones are now useless. I tried factory resetting my 7970 phones without a power brick. Now i just have 2 phones which just wont boot up. I tried everything I found on teh internet. tired using uploading load files using cme4.3 and cucm 4.3. tried upgrading firmware with the latest firware but it is just stuck and after about 3 months i now feel that i've lost my phones for good. all that happens is the line buttons keep blinking and the headset button is green and the mute button is red. When i tried using call manager express, i used a debug on the router and i can see phone asking for an ip address and also for teh firmware and my tftp providing it. after all that is finished i see no outputs and the phone still wont start. the screen is blank and i cant see anything on it. tried teh factory reset and all other possible things but still stuck. COULD SOMEONE PLEEASE HELP ME OUT.!!!

IPPA don't work with 7970 - shows No Services Configured

Hi,
i have an problem with the IP Phone Agent at CUCM 8.6 and UCCX 8.5.
I configured the Phone Service at the CUCM and subscribed it to the 7970. But the Phone only show me the "No Services Configured" when i press the Services Button.
I opened the link for the Service in my Browser an it worked, i got the XML-Data.
The Phone has the correct firmware, for the CUCM 8.6, but it doesn't work.
Has anyone an idea?

Hi,
This problem means that the User Profile did not have any services associated with it when the profile was loaded on the phone.
Perform the following steps:
1. Change the User Profile to include the Cisco CallManager Extension Mobility service.
2. Change the phone configuration where the user is logged in to include Cisco CallManager Extension Mobility. After the phone is updated, the user can access the phone services.
Hope it helps.
Anand
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You better release the 6800 with red PCB...

... because, for modders who have your Neo2 series boards (FIS2R) it would look better.
im not putting a green card into my computer, that'd look shitty as hell. black would be okay too, since my theme is red/black right now. so think about that! uh, and not just because of me haha. but your FIS2R boards are modder boards (NB fan, red PCB), so you should implement this into your graphics card line too. pleeeeze?
Mobo, red
memory Heatspreaders, black
Sound Blaster, Black
9800XT, Red
case, black/silver
^^^^beautyful^^^^
edit: those four "*" mean s h i tt y... geez.

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Well, my sound card is black, my motherboard is black, my memory heat spreaders are platinum. So a black video card would be sweet, but I'll live with green or red.
AOpen make their video cards mostly on black PCBs. They are very good overclockers too- in fact their GeForce FX range is very under-rated.

[Request] 7950 with Boost (GOP/EUFI bios)

hi, I'm looking for a bios update for my graphics card to enable ultraboot.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/105695939/Tahiti.rom
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z77 MPOWER

tell S/N of your card

R7950 TF3 OC BE with 7950 PCB

Hi everyone. This is my first post so please go easy on me!
I've been gradually putting together a new machine over the last couple of months and finally got around to upgrading my 5850 card. I want to incorporate the new card into my water loop and fit it with a Heatkiller 79X0 waterblock. Having done my research, I know I need a card with a 7970 reference PCB for the Heatkiller to fit. So, after reading many comments about people ordering 7950 TF3s and finding they have 7970 PCBs, I ordered what's called a "3GB MSI R7950 TF 3GD5/OC BE". I assume the BE bit refers to Boost Edition as there's a "Boost Edition" sticker on the box.
Anyway, I opened the box and unfortunately it has a 7950 PCB (with 6+6 pin power) so won't be able to take a Heatkiller block.
Have I just been unlucky and received old stock or is the "BE" edition different to the normal "OC" which, I believe, has the 7970 reference PCB?
Any help would be most gratefully received, especially if anyone can point me in the direction of exactly which version of the R7950 TF3 I need to order to be sure it has the 7970 PCB.
Thanks, guys!

Sorry to hear that. I've been searching for the difference between mine and the BE and now I know. Wonder why MSI reverted the design back to the 7950 PCB?
R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5 V2/OC
That's the one you need, and you'll find it at most major online retailers.

7950 reference design?

I purchased a MSI R7950 3GD5 twin frozr back in January, I also purchased a pair of Swiftech Komodo water blocks for said GPU my intension was always to crossfire eventually, I purchased another MSI R7950 TF but this time it was a OC/BE version, this arrived today. A previous search on this matter had led me to believe that the OC/BE was using the reference 7950 board, however the one that arrived today has the 7970 board with the 6/8 pin PCIe sockets, This has now been RMA'd, today the retailer has restarted listing the original vanilla Twin frozr (800mhz), in theory the same as the one I purchased in January, they only had one left so I purchased it.
My original board was a V276 ver 1 . The one that has been RMA'd was V277 version 1.
So my questions are:-
1. Are MSI still making any 2x6pin PCIe boards?
2. The Twin Frozr Cards have Military class components whereas the standard cards are sold as having solid capacitors, I'm reading something into this, should I? Or is it hype? Cooler is immaterial as they will be watercooled.
Hopefully the card that arrives tomorrow will be 2x6 pin, but if not, any suggestions.
Andy

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My original board was a V276 ver 1 . The one that has been RMA'd was V277 version 1.
So my questions are:-
1. Are MSI still making any 2x6pin PCIe boards?
The R7950 3GD5 you already have is NOT the same like R7950 TF 3GD5/OC BE you got later as the new one is a Boost Edition model being a totally different vga. It always uses a 7970 pcb.
Because R9 series arrived 7950s like all 7xxx Radeons are ending production. So considering production MSI most likely doesn't make any 7950. Currently there are clearance sales for all remainders.
None the left even the none-Boost Twin Frozr 7950 sometimes came with a 7970 pcb and most were disappointed when 7950 pcbs (2x6 pin) were used more often. If you want that 7950 pcb a R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5 currently for sale should be your best chance.
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2. The Twin Frozr Cards have Military class components whereas the standard cards are sold as having solid capacitors, I'm reading something into this, should I? Or is it hype? Cooler is immaterial as they will be watercooled.
MSI uses Military class electronic components. These are tested and verified to last longer even under bad circumstances. As you are getting better quality components for the almost same price of a reference card a Twin Frozr is a better deal.

Freeze Msi Hd 7950 Twin Frozr III v2

Hi !
I have a Msi Hd 7950 Twin Frozr III v2 (hd 7970 pcb) and there are problems. The card back on the desktop when i play Battlefield 3. I use amd driver 12.11 beta 6. With 12.8 i haven't that. I have freeze or a back on the desktop when i use Occt, Furmark and Unigine Heaven with two drivers (12.11 and 12.8).
I think the card hasn't enough voltage when it sustained heavy stress. But i can't control the voltage
What do you think ? I await your advices
PS : sorry if my english isn't perfec :lol_anim:t

My pc :
Board: Gigabyte Z68X UDP3
Bios: F8
VGA: MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III v2
PSU: Silver Power SP SS 620w (2 rail - 24A - 12v)
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W
MEM: Corsair 1600 2x4gb Vengeance LP
HDD: SSD Samsung 830 series 128go and Spinpoint F3 1To
COOLER: Prolimatech Mega Shadow
OS: Windows 7 64bit Professional
I tried my gpu with an other motherboad P5KPL/EPU and Windows XP.
I tried with a Antec Basiq 500w.
I tried with a Maxtor 320go.
When i use Occt with directx 9, no problem. But with directx 10, errors immediatly.
Furmark 1.10.3 (directx 11), errors immediatly.
Unigine Heaven 3.0, sometimes i have freeze. Otherwise i have lags.

7950 Twin Frozr3 Noise!

Hey Guys,
I'm having a bit of a problem, I recently bought an MSI Twin Frozr3 7950 and this is what's going on:
The issues are:
- The card came overclocked to 960Mhz Core clock and 1250Mhz Memory clock which is higher than it should have done.
- The card when gaming is unbelievably loud.
When idling the card is fine, virtually silent, but when I try to run a game (any game) the GPU usage quickly racks up to 90-100% and the RPM of the fans goes up to around 4500-4600. The fan speed seems to stay constant thought at 40% up until the time at which the card hits around 65C (this very rarely happens as it usually sticks around 50-55c) though I'm not sure how the fan speed can stay constant and the RPM can rise...
The card has Twin Frozr 3 and I'm certain that it should be a very quiet card even when under load, the dBa difference between this and my old card (GTX 46) is only 1 dBa and even when under load I could barley hear it. The problem is that the card is so loud that it makes gaming unbearable and I can't game at night because the fans are so loud it can be heard from across the hall.
Whilst I know that comparing two cards is not necessarily a good thing to do, especially with the differences in performance between them, the card is unbelievably loud and I cannot find many reviews online that say people find the card to be loud.
I've tried taking the clocks down to what they should have come at but that seems to make little difference in sound, and results in a 1-3 frames of difference in benchmark tests. I've tried running it with the case open in a cool room and that seems to make no difference.
I'm sure that the card shouldn't be this loud when running games, and in Crysis 3 it sounds like my computer is about to take off.
These are my basic specs:
CPU: I7 2600k
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z68X-UD3P-B3
RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengance (1600)
GPU: 3GB MSI HD7950 TwinFrozr OC
PSU: Standard 750W (Novatech)
Any thoughts as to what I should do?
Thanks in advance,
Mikey

Quote from: viperxxl80 on 07-March-13, 02:47:14
@ Mongo
Thanks works also perfekt for me. I´ve simply removed the diode carefully.
now the steering of the fans works smoothly according the fan profile.
But i think less people are crazy enough to risc the garanty.
IF that was the reason and the cards runs perfect also in future i think the reason was that the production machine of the PCB was wrongly configured
and placed an diod to a wrong/unnessecary space.
That was my first thought too.
If you look for images of the 7970 pcb layout you'll see that D201 is missing.
That was also the reason I've felt comfortable removing the diode.
This should be caught at QC though.
I've been playing Tomb Raider the whole afternoon at 1050/1450 and it seems perfectly fine tbh.

MSI Radeon HD 7950 Twin Frozr V2/OC BIOS update

Have there been any BIOS updates compatible with my card? Perhaps adding Boost or (more importantly) Windows 8 UEFI features, or bug fixes? My BIOS is dated 2012-05-24, and I very much suspect there have been updates with Win8 features since that date. My card is the MSI Radeon HD 7950 Twin Frozr V2/OC, which I believe is the second revision of the MSI Twin Frozr HD 7950 line, before the Boost editions. It is, I believe, the only model in the line which used an HD 7970 pcb instead of an HD 7950 pcb. I would appreciate the latest BIOS, and if it wouldn't be too much trouble, a changelog?
My BIOS, which I have captured using GPU-Z, can be found here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/jeq0pt
S/N: 602-V277-05SB1205142483
Also, if I do choose to flash, which position should my dual BIOS switch be set to?
Thanks very much.
Edit: Wow, got my serial number completely wrong the first time.

I have a UEFI GOP (Windows 8 Feature) vbios for you (attached):
Decompress the attached .rar archive with Winrar: http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
Create a bootable usb stick (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=165175.0).
Then unpack the previously provided archive (200.rar) and put the included file (TV277MH.200) on that stick.
Rename TV277MH.200 to 200.rom. Put the atiflash.exe also included in the archive provided on the USB stick too. Now boot from the stick.
Type atiflash -p -f -noaper 0 200.rom [ENTER] and let it flash the vbios.

MSI 7950 twin fozr has no voltage control

Is this card supposed to have voltage control for the memory?
I can change the core voltage fine. Gpuz and afterburner graphs shows the correct core voltage. But when I change the memory voltage sliders and hit apply, gpuz and the afterburner graphs don't change from default 1.6
I think this card is supposed to have memory voltage control because the vrm model number allows it and afterburner is showing me the memory voltage sliders.
But I can't get it to work. Any help?

Interesting.
The reference 7950 and 7970 boards using the chl 8228 voltage controller do have memory voltage control.
The 7950 card I bought uses the 7970 ref board design with chl 8228 controller.
So the card does or should have the capability based on the hardware. But if you disabled it on the software side to differentiate your product line, that is fair and I can live with that.
But if you are saying the hardware does not support it, then I think something is not right.

Ok i finally decided what i will order with my new mobo. Pls tell me what you think...

Ok i got the 875p neo Fisr pcb 2.9
I have a p4 2.8(800) atm , but im thinking of ordering a 3.0 or 3.2 since i dont overclock much...
Decided to go with kingmax ramm unless someone saiys else i got a reply earlier that someone has this and it works. only thing i worry is they dont come in a duel kit so im gonna order 2 from prolly a bulk load... pc3200 kingmax . newegg has them for 80 a pop. 512 meg a stick. one thing that worries me is they are rated at 2.5 volts and if needed to crank them suckers to 2.7 then i might change the memory order if you guys think that will be a problem.
Got a bfg geforce 600gt coming from best buy for 399.(434 w/tax.)
Gonna get a vantec 520 watt psu, has oveer 25 amps anthe 12, has over everythng LOL.
I dont know what bios this new mobo is so i am wondering if after i install all if i should flash to the latest bios or not to worry about flasshing??
Woot im finally getting close to ordering , only thing i might change is no pcu if you think a 32. from a 2.8 wont make a bigg difference , or if you think the kingmax ramm rated at 2.5 volts might give me a problem . Im afraid to go corsair or very low clas like 2. these are 2.5 . Im my last board the pcb 1.0 after i bios flashed from somethng ( i dont remember which i had i could no longer run in ultra turbo)Ohh ye i had 1.92 b at that time. but for some reason it worked . My only concern is that i wont be able to run in ultr turbo, i could still run in slow on my last mobo but i lost scores in all benchmarks. Well well see what happs this time.
Ill let ya know . thanx for all of you that replied.

the neo lsr or fisr should be great boards . mine kicked butt until i messed with it and i guess the flashing which i did correctly on my board didnt undo when i went back. So all with a pcb 1.0 if it works, dont mess with it. LOL . Worked great and was very fast .
I hope the new pcb 2.0 is just as good.
ohh that was geforce6800 gt not 600 LOL. Sorry im tired been up and stressed over what i should order...
Im out .
Peace !

Evaluating Ultiboard with Multisim

I am currently evaluating Ultiboard. My only experience with designing PCBs is using ExpressPCB. Using Express PCB I could easily connect vias and the trace would snap to them. With my evaluation version I can't even use the connection machine. Is this feature disabled? Follow me doesn't allow me to connect two vias either because it avoids everything on the board. This leaves me with using the line tool. That's fine, but it doesn't snap to the vias.
How can I be 100% sure that the trace connects both vias?
Is there a node testing feature that will highlight everything that is connected to something that I select?
Why doesn't my connection machine work?
Why is print disabled?
Why did the tear drop feature only work once and now won't finish the remaining vias I have added?
How do I perform a final check to make sure that the design is ok?
Thanks.
Michael Chadwell
Department of Engine and Vehicle R&D
Southwest Research Institute

When you are manually routing your board and want to go to a different layer, press F2 (this switches to the previous active layer) or click on the desire layer in the Design toolbox, Ultiboard will automatically place a via for you.
The connection machine is active only if you have a netlist, you need to select Place >> connection machine and click on the ratsnest to use this feature.
If you are not able to control where to pace traces, change your grid settings. Edit-->Properties-->Grid and Units, where you see Component grid, there is an arrow in thisfield, click on it and you will see 4 options, I like to set them all to be on the same grid size with a small grid step, this will give you very good contol.
Answers to your questions:
1. If you see the trace on a via, they are connected.
2. There is a connectivity check under Design>> connectivity check, you have the option to check 1 net or the entire design. You should always use this at the end of the design.
3. Connection machine and follow me router only work if you have a netlist, Ultiboard needs to know what pin connect to each other.
4. I see the problem for via, the pad seems to allow you to use the teardrop feature again.
5. Your final check should include DRC and connectivity check both options are under the Design Menu
Tien P.
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GTX 780 Gaming Edition, PCB custom or not?

Ok so i was planing to buy this gpu, but then i saw 3 reviews and all showed stock pcb, no military class pwm, mosfets, caps etc.. Why so?
Now i saw a shop that could have proper pics with custom pcb., but then again it looked like it was copied from MSI GTX780 GE/OC page
Shop Pic (short pcb)
http://eu.msi.com/product/vga/N780-TF-3GD5-OC.html
Review, (default stock 780GTX long pcb)
same at guru3d review or newegg.com shop
http://www.altesc.net/2013/06/26/msi-gtx-780-gaming-review/
back custom pcb (short)
http://videocardz.com/42609/msi-geforce-gtx-780-twin-frozr-gaming-oc-edition-pictured-up-close
back review pcb (longer)

yes 1st front picture is from MSI site - 780GTX with short pcb.
http://eu.msi.com/product/vga/N780-TF-3GD5-OC.html
2nd front picture is what all reviewers got (3 so far).
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its standard/reference PCB with special components on it [Solid CAPs,New SFC,Hi-c CAP]
Not according to Altesc.com and guru3d back picture (right stock 780gtx) with missing 2 PWM just like by stock 780gtx..
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special components are there,[military class 4] but visually they looks near the same as reference card,
he took gpu apart and underneath stock VRM/PWM,... R22,..
http://www.altesc.net/2013/06/26/msi-gtx-780-gaming-review/
http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/recenze/msi-geforce-gtx-780-gaming-rychla-chladna-extremne-ticha-vyhodna/strana/0/1
btw I know how custom SFC, mosfet looks like - I own MSI 570GTX TFIII Power Edition OC
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else the PCB is reference and there is no special PWM on it
Yes that's exactly what this is, at least by all 3 reviews..
So why promote it if its not there, i guess MSI was in a hurry and didnt sent full custom? Will retail be custom like on MSI page or not?
Well im thinking of buying it soon and custom pcb PWM plays a big part for me. More then cooling.

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