802.11n Increased Range - How?

Hi All,
All the blub in the market place talks about 802.11n increased range from using multiple antennas. I would have thought there would have to be an increased power level also?
Am I missing something here?
Also, is the max power setting for any AP 100mw and does anyone have any test results (lets say in open space) of 802.11b/g/n range comparisons?
Many thx indeed,
Ken

Hi Ken,
For legacy (a/b/g) clients the increase in range, or increase in the distance before rates shift down, is due to Maximal Ratio Combining (MRC) and ClientLink (legacy beamforming).
MRC is done on the receiver; hence how legacy clients can benefit. All three antennas receive the signal, which gets combined and adjusted so all are in phase. This effectively boosts the signal (gain).
With ClientLink, when the client sends a signal, each antenna is going to receive the signal at a slightly different time and therefore slightly out of phase. Say it hits the right antenna, then middle, then left. To get the signal back to the client in phase, we flip the order and send on the last to receive first. So, left then right (middle antenna is Rx only). Again, because the signals will arrive in phase, there will be gain.
Maximum range isn't increased all that much, but the range until rates shift down is increased - increasing overall cell throughput.
Check out:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5678/ps10092/white_paper_c11-516389_ns767_Networking_Solutions_White_Paper.html
-Matt

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If the units do not show up in the airport utility then you must set it correctly to link-local.
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Virtually no chance that the Express is compatible with a product from another manufacturer, but you can always give it a try.
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I have the new Aluminum Macbook. I see no issue with range. I have my base station on the far end of my apartment and I still get full coverage throughout my entire apartment at full strength.
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lenovo_needing wrote:
How can I enable this functionality, without purchasing a new wireless?
And why in the world would that be disabled in the first place?
If your Intel WiFi card is an N disbled version, it will say 4965AG on the printed label on the card.
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Hi i would like to know how to extend the range of my time capsule wifi network(500G 802.11n) using an airport express. i have a double storey home and would like to extend range to my upstairs bedrooms.i have a time capsules network setup via a netgear a

hi i would like to know how to extend the range of my time capsule wifi network(500G 802.11n) using an airport express. i have a double storey home and would like to extend range to my upstairs bedrooms.i have a time capsules network setup via a netgear adsl.i have a second imac upstairs which connects to time capsule wifi network (it is within range as it is directly abobe on 1st floor)
could you tell me how best to set airport express up to extend my wifi range?

Greetings,
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My iTunes movie library is on a Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro. I have not yet used the AirPort Extreme 802.11n Enabler on this MacBook, since I just found out it exists. If I use it, can I utilize 802.11n sync speeds with the Apple TV? How?
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I do have an AX that extends the AE network. There is nowhere on AX that I can specify radio mode, once I specified it to extend a network. I assume AX talks to AE over the n network and then extends the network to be g compatible? Sounds really strange.
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