AAC quality

Can you tell the difference between 192 and 224? Is it worth the change if you are going to be running it through a stereo? I heard anything over 200 is best. But I noticed 192 is most popular, why? Why not 320 or 224?

The Data Speaks for Itself
In numerous comparison tests, AAC comes out on top. Check out these impressive results:
AAC compressed audio at 128 Kbps (stereo) has been judged by expert listeners to be “indistinguishable” from the original uncompressed audio source.*
AAC compressed audio at 96 Kbps generally exceeded the quality of MP3 compressed audio at 128 Kbps. AAC at 128 Kbps provides significantly superior performance than does MP3 at 128 Kbps.*
AAC was the only Internet audio codec evaluated in the range “Excellent” at 64 Kbps for all of the audio items tested in EBU listening tests.*
You be the judge with your ears!

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    Sudarsh2013 wrote:
    Hi,
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    Sudarsh,  The songs sold in the iTunes Store are AAC/256 with CBR.  Amazon MP3 uses MP3/256 with VBR, and Google Play uses MP3/320 with CBR.  Most people, using typical equipment and typical listening conditions, will hardly notice a difference among them, but there may be personal preferences.
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    Usually from the masters.  In some cases, special mastering techniques are used for better quality;  see
    http://www.apple.com/itunes/mastered-for-itunes/

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    unless you're really doing something where extreme quality matters. which is unlikely.

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