Abumn accum depreciation

Hi Consultant,
When I do abumn to transfer part of the cost $8000 from asset A to asset B.
I notice that in the double entry, acq cost for both account $8000 whereas accum depr both also $533.34 and this $533.34 appear in value adjustment in aw01n.
May i know why accum depr different from the cost account? and why $533.34 shown in value adjustment?
Thanks

hi,
Kindly note that while transferring asset the depreciation of receiving asset is calculated based on dep after the asset value date , and the dep from the sending asset is terms as value adjustment.kindly provide the acqu value, dep avlue of both sender and recieving asset and the dep key and method assigned (Including period control)

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Abavn accum depreciation

hi,
may i know how the accummulated depreciation derived via abavn?
1) accum depreciation getting from area 01 or area 20?
2) i base on the ord dep value in aw01n for both areas but none is the same as the accum depreciation value.
eg: if scrap on 01/may08 which acquired on 01/jan08, then depreciation should count from jan until april but accum depreciation value different.
thanks

hi,
thanks for the reply but both also misunderstood my question.
i do not mean the depreciation value different between 01 and 20. do not get me wrong. what i mean here is why the accum depreciation value calculated in abavn different from ord depreciation in aw01n either area 01 or 20.
for example, in abavn accum depreciation the value is 1000. let say the asset acquired 1/1/2008 and write off 1/5/2008,
aw01n area 01 depreciation from jan till april is 800 whereas aw01n area 20 depreciation from jan till april is 850.
now, i would like to know why abavn accum depreciation from jan till april is 1000 whereas aw01n area 01 is 800 and area 20 is 850.
the accum depreciation different from either 800 or 850.
the argument is why there is a difference? if accum deprec same as 800 then i can say it is counted via area 01. if it is 850 then it is counted via area 20.
but now 1000 is different from 800 or 850. so i need to know how abavn calculate accum depreciation.
thanks

Accum depreciation

Dear Forum,
When do AFAB,
for depreciation account, it is by cost center.
for accum depreciation, i wonder it will break up or all go to 1 accum depreciation only.
i actually notice the accum depreciation account with profit center. just wonder if accum depreciation is grouped up by profit center.
Example, 10 machine with 10 cost center where 5 cost center goes to same profit center and another 5 to another profit center.
when AFAB, will have 10 depreciation accounting document and 2 accum depreciation accounting document?
Need advice.
Thanks

Accumulated depreciation account is mapped to asset class with account determination key. A separate Depreciation document is posted for each combination of asset class and cost center

Acquisition Balance, Accum Depreciation, Book Value

Could anyone advice me, from which DB Table I can have the values for Acquisition Balance, Accum Depr., Book Value.
... Thanks in advance!!!

Account Acquisition Values - S_ALR_87011964
ables: tcurx,         " Dezimalstellen der Währungen
        t086,          " Sortiervarianten Reporting
        t001,          " Buchungskreise
        t009b,         " Perioden der Geschäftsjahresvarianten
        t093t,         " Bezeichnung echter und abgeleiteter Bewertungsb
        t093c,         " Buchungskreise Anlagenbuchhaltung
        t093b,         " Buchungskreisbezogene Bewertungsbereichsangaben
        t090i,         " Abschreibungs-Simulation (Reporting)
        t090u,         " Texte zu AfA-Simulationsvarianten
        t091c,         " Umrechnungsmethode in der Anlagenbuchhaltung
        t091s,         " Text zur Umrechnungsmethode
      Dictionary-Felder fuer SO, PA, WRITE.
        rarep,
      Common-Datenbereich fuer BATCH-HEADING-Routine.
        bhdgd.
Acquisition Adjustment - FS10N acct: 115000
tables: skc1a,
        skc1c,
        rf42b,
        sscrfields.
Non Utility Property - FS10N acct: 129000
Acquisition Adjustment - FS10N acct: 115000
Non Utility Property - FS10N acct: 129000
Depreciation Expense - FS10N acct: 500000
Ditching Depreciation Expense - FS10N acct: 6770000
Amortization Expense - FS10N acct: 501000
Non Utility Property Depreciation Expense - FS10N acct: 709020
tables: skc1a,
        skc1c,
        rf42b,
        sscrfields.
Hope thisll give you idea!!
P.S award the points.
Good luck
Thanks
Saquib Khan
"Some are wise and some are otherwise"

Adjustment entry to Accum. depreciation and Offsetting GL account

Dear All,
I have another typical scenario. We have just completed our rollout and the core team member is asking to post the following entry without disturbing the Gloss block(cost).
Accumulated Depreciation A/c....Dr
To Offsetting GL account(Balancesheet a/c).
I had tried with all modes using ABSO and the relevant AA T-codes. But of no use.
Can anyone help me out in this case.
Regards,
Srinivas K.

Hi Srinivas,
Are these reconciliation differences you need to post?
It is not possible to post to a reconciliation account directly in general.
But you could use transaction AFB1. It should only be used when there are differences between Asset Accounting and Financial accounting.
Also review for further information on the subject: SAP note 69225 - Reconciliation difference financial/asset accounting.
If you need to make corrections to values on the asset you can also consider a write-up (ABZU) or unplanned depreciation (ABAA). Check all your options under Easy Access Menu 'Manual Value Correction'.
Kind regards,
Brigitte

Using ABUMN for depreciated asset,, possible?

Hi Gurus,
I need to do a assets class transfer, for eg: Computer Software to Intangible Assets. Currently I already close off my fixed assets till 31Jul09, that mean I had posted Jul09 depreciation, so when I do this transfer, can I back date the posting date, asset value date to 31Mar09 ? Of cos, I will need to open the period for Mar09, in order to do this transaction, but is it the correct way to do it? My doubt is I already completed depreciation till Jul09, am I allow to back date it again to 31Mar09 for the transfer? Please advice
Thanks

Hi,
The test here is till what date do you want to charge depreciation for the computer? And from what date do you want to consider the asset as an intangible asset?
You can post with posting date in Aug 09 but provide asset value date as 31 Mar 2009. The extra depreciation on the computer (Apr to July) will be reversed in the month of Aug when you execute the Aug depreciaton posting. In addition the system will also pass the depreciation from Apr to July on the new intangible asset if you have maintained depreciation rates for this asset in Aug.
Rgds
Shivram.

ABUMN asset transfer

Hey Guys,
When doing an inter company asset transfer we are facing an issue as the current year depreciation for tax books remains on both the old and new asset. Before doing an asset transfer I could change the key to 0000 but in my copy controls I am copying the depreciation key to the new asset as well, so that will mean that the new asset will also get the key 0000 but I want the new key to use the original tax key that was assigned to the asset being transferred. How do you over come this issue?
This problem is only for the tax books
E.g. Asset 76333 is being transferred. key NA0
      Acquisition value            10000
      Accum Depreciation         5000
      Current year depreciation 200 ( half year convention)
   When I do an ABUMN- it copies all the information from the original asset
     New asset 76334
Acquisition value    10000
Accum depreciation 5000
Current year dep     200
The current year depreciation is being calculated for both the assets. If I change the key of the asset being retired to 0000 , then the new asset will also have key 0000. I want the new asset to have current year depreciation of 200 but the old asset should have 0000.
Please advice

Hi,
Your OAYZ settings will have priority over copy rules of dep key in AO21.
Change your dep key as required and post ABT1N with that asset and give sending asset as reference asset. Since your new asset will copy settings from OAYZ for the dep area tab, but not from the copy rules of sending asset.
I have tested too.
Thanks,
Srinu

Asset transfer with depreciation amt

Hi,
1.created the asset
2. Acquire the asset 01.03.2009 10000k
3.Transfering the asset 01.05.2009 ABUMN
4.Didnot posted the depreciation.
5. When I am transfering the asset with in the company code.It posts both Acquisition value 10000k and Accum depreciation 1000k.
please can you provide steps so that it should post only acquisition value 10000k not the depreciation.
thk
cra

Hi,
check your period control for transfers. If it is pro rata, then the system will keep apparently 2 periods of depreciaiton on the sending asset.
Regards,
Markus

Account Assignments for Dep and Accum

Hi,
The GL account assignment at COA level for Depreciation and accumilated depreciation.
The COD is assigned to Co codes. We have already one co code is in Production. The other one is in Legacy asset transfer stage.
1.Can I use a different GL accounts( Temporary Dep Account and Accum ) for second co code for Depreciation and accum dep when the system is having another co code which is in production with correct Dep and accum dep accounts?
2.Will the system allow to change when the production data is there as we have to use the same COD for a new co code.?
The scenario is when we go live for second co code we want to use a different GL accoutns for Dep and Accum for Legacy transfer ( End of previous year) We want to run Depreciation every month and compare with Legacy .Finally when we swicth over to SAP we want to use different GL account (like Production system)
Once the Numbers are tallied then we shall pass JV from temp Dep account to Regular dep account and regular accum Dep account
What is the best approach ?
Thanks,
Chitra

Hi Srinu,
Sorry for my delay i- I was away.
Yes You are correct. The approach is more complicated unnecessarily. Anyhow now switched to the standard approach as I could convince my user as follows.
The scenario is like this . we are taking the balance from legacy as of last FY . Say Apr-Mar   Take the balances as of March to legacy asset transfer at the end of previous FY.. ( For audit perspective and want to see w/o a gap in FA for the whole year)
We have to prove that the balances are taken from legacy are accurate and tallied with GL of Legacy on
1.Accum depreciation
2.Asset balances and depreciation
You are correct that agree that it is not correct approach to change the config when the same COD is being used by other co code in the same box.
Alternatively we designed like this. .
1.     As GL balances are taken from Legacy system we get the trial balance from them and use the conversion accounts for Asset balances and accum in the trial balance taken from Legacy syste,
2.     So the conversion account 900001 hold the data Say 10000 as asset bal and (conversion account 900002 )7000 as acccum
3.     We load the legacy data using AS91
4.     End of it the balance in FA is 10000 and 70000 which matches with Conversion account 90001 and 90002
5.     In GL they pass a JV to shift the GL balances from conversion account to real asset account and accum account as in FA
6.     The balances in Conversion account should be 0 at the end.
7.     If any difference then it has to be investigated and corrected.
8.     New assets are added as transaction as well retirement
9.     Run depreciation at the end of every period
10.     Check the Exp account Depreciation account .
11.     That should tally with the P&L balance taken over from legacy system   for GL side of SAP as historical data transfer for GL balances at P&L side ( use conversion account for Depreciation amount of Expenses side of the P&L taken for SAP at monthly interval. )
12.     If any difference in Depreciation amount then it has to be investigated and adjusted .
Please guide /Correct me if I missed out anything
Regards,
Chitra

APC, Accum Dep and current book value

Dear Experts,
In the asset module i have a bit of confussion what is the difference between APC , Accum Depreciation and current book value
Advance thanks for your assistance...
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Table for retirement posted depreciation

Hi,
I had posted a retirement transaction. The APC and accum depreciation account is posted, but when I look at table ANEP, the depreciation posted for the retirement is not reflected in the field NAFAB.
Please advise where can I get the accum depre posted for the retirement.
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Write up postings not tallying between GL and Asset reports

Hi,
Asset details start of the year 1-1-2009
Useful life 10 months.
Acquisition - 1000
Monthly depreciation amount - 100 starting from 1-1-2009
Till March end the total depreciation posted is 300
In April 2009 a write up of 30 was posted with asset value date of 1-1-2009
Now the accumulated depreciation amount shown in the monthly asset balances report (S_ALR_87011963) from Jan to March is short of the write up value of 30 when compared with the Accum depreciation GL account balance report. I believe this is because the write up posting's asset value date is 1-1-2009 hence this write up amount is decreased from the depreciation posting of Jan to April.
However the problem is in the month of April, this difference of 30 between both reports should have been eliminated because the write up value of 30 is appearing in the debit side of GL account balance in april hence eventually should bring both reports in tandem in the month of April. But this is not happening. What happens is that the system takes the accum depreciation amount of 382 and deducting 30 from it and showing 352 in the asset balance report accum depreciation field. May i know the reason for this :-
Accum. Depreciation GL account balance :-
Jan = (CR) Monthly depreciation : 100, Accum. depreciation : 100
Feb = (CR) Monthly depreciation : 100, Accum. depreciation : 200
March = (CR) Monthly depreciation : 100, Accum. depreciation : 300
April = (DR) 30      (CR) Monthly depreciation : 112, Accum. depreciation : 382
The april's monthly depreciation posting includes the prorated depreciation for the write up amount as well which is 12 from Jan to April.
Monthly asset balances report (S_ALR_87011963)
Jan = Accum Depreciation : 70
Feb   = Accum Depreciation : 170
March   = Accum Depreciation : 270
April   = Accum Depreciation : 352

Hi Raja
Have you run T-code AFAR (recalculate depreciation ) for that asset?
Please let me know
Thanks
Sanjeev

ASSET TABLE FOR PROPERTYINDICATOR AND COSTCENTRE

Hello fi/co gurus
I need to get the list of all assets for a company code with property indicator sorted by costcenter by using which table i can get these details.
thanks in advance
award with points
regards
chandra

Hello
Check info in some of the tables, you could find the required fields.
ANLC/ANEP
BUKRS
ANLN1
Main asset number
ANLN1
ANLN2
Asset subnumber
ANLN2
GJAHR
Fiscal year
GJAHR
FISCPER
Fiscal year / period
ANEP
PERAF
LNRAN
Sequence number of asset line items in fiscal year
LNRAN
AFABER
Depreciation area real or derived
ANLC/ANEP
AFABER
BWASL
Asset transaction type
ANEP
BWASL
WAERS
Currency key
T093B
WAERS
PERIV
Fiscal year variant
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Acquisition value for transactions
ANEP
ANLC
ANLC
ANBTR
KANSW
ANSWL
BW_INVBW_T
Investment support on transaction
ANEP
ANLC
ANLC
ANBTR
KINVZ
INVZM
BW_NAFAB_T
Ordinary depreciation on transactions
ANEP
ANLC
ANLC
NAFAB or ANBTR
KNAFA
NAFAP
BW_SAFAB_T
Special depreciation on transactions
ANEP
ANLC
ANLC
SAFAB or ANBTR
KSAFA
SAFAP
BW_AAFAB_T
Unplanned depreciation on transaction
ANEP
ANLC
ANLC
ANBTR
KAAFA
AAFAP
BW_MAFAB_T
Transfer of reserves from transaction
ANEP
ANLC
ANLC
ANBTR
KMAFA
MAFAP
BW_ZINSB_T
Interest on transaction
ANEP
ANLC
ANLC
ZINSB
KZINW
ZINSP
BW_AUFBW_T
Revaluation on transaction
ANEP
ANLC
ANLC
ANBTR
KAUFW
AUFWP
BW_AUFNP_T
Revaluation of ordinary depreciation on transaction
ANEA
ANLC
ANLC
AUFNV + AUFNL
KAUFN
AUFNP
BW_NAFAW_T
Transaction: acc.dep. and write-up on ordinary depreciation
ANEA
ANLC
ANLC
NAFAV
NAFAV
NAFAL + ZUSNA
BW_SAFAW_T
Transaction: accum.dep.and write-up on special depreciation
ANEA
ANLC
ANLC
SAFAV
SAFAV
SAFAL + ZUSSA
BW_AAFAW_T
Transaction: acc.dep. & write-up on unplanned depreciation
ANEA
ANLC
ANLC
AAFAV
AAFAV
AAFAL + ZUSSA
BW_MAFAW_T
Transaction: acc.dep.and write-up on transfer of reserves
ANEA
ANLC
ANLC
MAFAV
MAFAV
MAFAL + ZUSMA
BW_AUWWW_T
Accum. depreciation on revaluation of APC
ANEA
ANLC
ANLC
AUFWV + AUFWL
AUFWV
AUFWL
BW_AUFNW_T
Accum.depreciation on revaluation of ordinary depreciation
ANEA
ANLC
AUFNV + AUFNL
AUFNV
BW_INVZW_T
Accumulated depreciation on investment support
ANEA
ANLC
ANLC
INVZV + INVZL
INVZV
INVZL
ERLBT
Revenue from asset sale
ANEA
ERLBT
VERKO
Costs from asset retirement
VERKO
MINERL
Loss from asset retirement
Calculated
MEHERL
Gain from asset retirement
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Subtract from Parent in Entity dimension

Hi all
I am currently implementing SAP BPC project to replace Hyperion Enterprise. There is an option in Hyperion Enterprise in Entity dimension where you can specify an entity (child or parent node) to be subtracted from its parent rather than the natural way of adding in SAP BPC. I know in SAP BPC, the natural way the hierarchy works is that all the base level nodes are added to its parent level which in turn are added to its parent level and so on and so forth.
I was wondering if there is a way to accommodate "Subtract from parent" functionality of Hyperion Enterprise in SAP BPC. One way I can think of is to write a script logic to multiply the numbers submitted to that entity by -1 which will make sure that we are subtracting this entity while rolling up.
Does anyone know of a better way?
Please let me know.
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Exactly as Tim says, there's a member property you can add (called UNARYOPERATOR, must use that name, inApp, length 1) that takes a value of one of the following:
+    (this adds up the member to its parent -- same as if you didn't add this property)
-     (subtracts this member from its siblings, in computing the parent)
*     (multiplies it)
/     (divides it)
~    (ignores this member)
I've never used multiply or divide. The tilde is helpful for skipping the NBV accounts from the fixed assets on the balance sheet, where you can't double-count the original book less accum depreciation, AND the NBV. But every chart of accounts has all those accounts in there.
This property should probably work in any dimension with a hierarchy. Or almost any -- I'd be surprised if Time would be able to multiply October times November??? But anyway for simple stuff, it should work.
Or you can use a member formula on the parent, which would be
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A script logic approach will also work, but it means a lot of extra calculations and data, which you should avoid if possible. I think to get the results you want, you'd follow Tim's approach, except the logic needs to post a factor of -2 (not -1) to the shadow member, to get a net result of a negative impact on the parent. A factor of -1 would give a net result of zero.
Hopefully the unaryoperator or formulaH1 will work.

ASKB functionality

Dear Seniors,
What is the functionality of ASKB. How exactly it picks the figures for the line items.
As per my knowledge, ASKB posts the difference in Depreciation posting of two different books are posted. Let's say for example, difference in Depreciation adjustment entries between INGAAP and USGAAP willl be posted to INGAAP books.
But, in our case, one entry is posted to Clearing Revenue GL also. How this GLs are picked and what is the reason for picking clearing revenue GL?
Thanks and Regards
KVKR

Hi,
The basic issue is, when we run ASKB, Clearing revenue GL should not be hit. But, in one of the cases it is happening like that. I would like to know the scenarios when the clearing revenue GL is hit, while doing ASKB.
I would like to give an example, how ASKB works. (This is a real case from the production system )
Descriptions of the GLs involved in the transactions are given below -
573102     -   Loss from disposal - machinery/equipment
573103     -   Profit from disposal - machinery/equipment
573104     -   Clearing revenue for assets sales-Mach & Eqpt (Cr)
21400001     -   Plant and machinery - General
21400016     -   Vehicles
21450015     -   Accum Depreciation- Vehicles
When we sell assets the following documents will get posted in both IN and US GAAP books
Vehicles
     573102         Dr   667410.27
     573104         Dr   133332
     21400016         Cr   1821380
     21450015         Dr   1020637.73
573102         Dr 180872
     573103         Cr 40449
     573104         Dr 283628
     21400001        Cr    424051
Entries should have been
in US GAAP
GL             Debit         Credit
573102         667410.27
573104         133332
21400016                  1821380
21450015         1020637.73
573102         180872
573103                  40449
573104         283628
21400001                  424051
in IN GAAP
   GL          Debit              Credit
573102         816313
573104         133332
21400016                   1863059
21450015         913414
573102
573103                     283628
573104         283628
21400001          0
So, ASKB posts the following entry
*only in IN GAAP          *
GL        Debit              Credit
573102                    275147.12
573103
573104
21400016                    41679
21450015                    107224.88
21400001         424051
Now, the doubt is the above example is a peculiar case, where, even the Gross Block values in IN GAAP and US GAAP books are different. Even in this case, while doing ASKB, Clearing revenue GL is not coming.
But, in one of the cases of our organization, when we run ASKB for a particular month, system is showing 7 million figure in Clearing revenue GL. What could be the reason for this?
According to my understanding, Clearing revenue GL should not be hit at all.
Plz advise.
Regards

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