Add first depreciation area

Hi,
The asset class was set with no active depreciation area. The assets were created within this asset class. (For some reasons it was ok- only master data without values.)
Now the asset class was changed and deprecation area 01 is active. The new assets are created with depreciation area.
How can I add depreciation area to old assets? TC AFBN need the reference depreciation area but there is no one.
thanks
Ryszard

Thanks for reply,
It is solution I try avoid. I have 4000 position of this assets. After two years of using the user said it will be better to add values to these assets and the problem occurs.
After changing the assets I will post an acquisition to them.
Thanks,
Ryszard
Adding ANLB table to assets solved problem.
Edited by: Ryszard Belec on Jul 22, 2009 12:41 PM

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http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5691/errorfug.jpg
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PS: I´m sorry about the grammar, I´m kinda rusty with my english skills.
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Edited by: Zeque.- on May 21, 2009 8:23 PM

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