Adding Conditional-Text conditions in bulk.

We are importing text from excel using XML via XSLT.
We would like to mark certain prices (excel columns or Indesign tags) as conditional text.
We are having a great deal of difficulty in applying conditional text using find-and-replace within Indesign, because of the variation in formatting of prices.
Below two products, where product B includes a thousands comma separater, a Tax Staus marker in the UK and a Truck Shipping marker in the USA all of which need to be included within the conditional text.
Product
UK (X1X)
Europe (X2X)
USA (X3X)
A
£1.99
3.50E
£3.59
B
£1,199.00 XV
3.500.00E
$3,590.00 T
Is it possible to apply conditions to tags?
Is it possible to apply conditions using XML or XSLT?

This problem was solved by a response to a more focussed question about GREP searching.
applying the conditions is straightforward once the correct strings have been GREP'd

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adrianaharper wrote:
I am using TCS2 on Windows XP.
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HTH
Regards,
Peter
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I’m german but I try to express my problem in english as good as I can. Not always easy with the different menu names. Hope you get what I want to say! :-)
As you can see in my attached screenshot, I placed text in a table.
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See the following screenshots:
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