Advice on Java Learning Curve - What Next?

Dear Experts
With big thanks to this forum users i have covered my ground and have become a bit familar with the following
-> Console Applications
-> Classes, Inheritance, Abstract Classes, Interfaces
-> Threads
-> Packages (to a certain extent)
-> Swing
-> Database (JDBC)
What Next? Should i get into servlets or JSP? I mean which would be a proper sequence? I would appreciate if you will be able suggest a suitable flow+
Thank you very much
standman

Kayaman wrote:
Most of the remotely useful functionality that Applets could give you can be easier done with Flash these days.A year ago I'd say because of the vendor lockin it isn't worth to think about flash, but today...
But it seems that I'm the only one bothering... :o(Maybe there's a reason that nobody else bothers.Surely is, but I don't understand it.
Nearly every web application we created in the last 3 years was about to put fat clinet features like dynamic auto compleetion and updates of the page content without Page refresh (to give just 2 examples) into a web application hiding the networtk communication by ajax.
Doing that as an applet (or flash-application if you'r Adobe addicted) would have been much easier, more (automatically) testable and more browser indipendent. But nobody (including customers who don't know better and collegues who don't want to cunsult the customers but code) wants to think about that because web applications are considered as the most modern aproach...
bye
TPD

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> Hello! OK Firstly sorry for the long posting!. I am
learming CS3 Flash +
> Dreamweaver, a experienced Illustrator and Photoshop
user. In the process
> of
> creating a website, and I would really appreciate a
heads-up with any top
> tips
> or suggestions to help my learning curve!.
Don't learn 'dreamweaver'. Learn HTML and CSS. THEN
Dreamweaver will make
sense intuitively.
> DESIGN DESCRPTION
> Screen Format 720px (L) 650px (W) Is this OK or should I
consider a
> different
> dimension?
Screens come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. As do web
browsers. If you
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height. People
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> Site Frame Structure
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idea.
> buttons that
> I would like to change to help navigate the user through
the 75% featured
> area.
Unless this is entirely a flash web site, avoid flash-based
navigation. It's
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maintain.
> Blank screen with a symbol to click to enter the
website.
Why start with a blank screen? Just let them get to the home
page to begin
with.
> On clicking the button the 75% area is replaced with a
slide in motion
> Graphic occupying the complete background 75% space. The
idea is
> to appear as if you are moving forward from the left
screen format edge
> to the right edge.
At this point, it really seems like you are making a Flash
presentation
moreso than an HTML web site. As such, you might have better
luck asking
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> Search Engine Friendly
Basic rule of thumb: The more flash you use, the less
search-engine-friendly
your site will be. You CAN make Flash search-engine-friendly,
but it takes
work and knowledge.
> If I call my site CHOCOLATE, rather than my not very
well know name
> Will this have a greater search engine impact?. My
domain name is (XXX
> CHOCOLATE)
If you use the term 'choclate' then people searching for
'chocolate' would
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That said,
'chocolate' is a pretty generic term. As is 'xxx'
> Can I paste Keywords in the background as blind text to
impact on my
> Search results?
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that a form of
spamming.
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