Aggregate build suggestions

Hello Experts,
We are trying to do performance tuning on a BW3.5 setup ... Currently, we are focusing on queries and looking at the feasibility of building aggregates for performance improvement. We find that most queries see data at the very granular level as follows:
Rows
Profit centre group -> Profit Centre-> Product hierarchy level 1
Columns
Actual , Planed, difference.
Now the proposal generated for the queries do not give profit centre group but only profit centre in the first dimension. Please note that profit centre group is a navigational attribute of profit centre( There is a message that says profit centre cannot be in aggregate because of presence of profit centre group)
Now my question is , in order for these queries to hit the aggregate, should I introduce both Profit centre group and Profit centre in the aggregate? In doing so, will I risk creating a bigger aggregate?
I am not sure if I am making sense. But please feel free to ask questions I will explain more if needed. My question to be precise is, whether all the characteristics required to view the data in a query needs to be present in the aggregate?
Many thanks in advance for all your inputs..
Regards,
Solomon

Hi Solomon,
If your query has to hit the aggregate, then all the characteristics in the selection, filter, default values, rows, columns, used in RKFs, used in exceptional aggregation should be present in the aggregate.
You can execute the query in RSRT ->Execute+Debug-> with Display aggregate found option.
This will tell you exactly what are the characteristics those should be present so that your default view hits the aggregate.
Needless to say, if you are planning to drilldown the report with any characteristic from the free characteristics, even that should be present in the aggregate.
Now coming to your confusion on Profit centre and Profit Centre Group, Since profit centre group is already navigational attribute of profit centre you need not ( can not ) place that in the aggregate, when profit centre is already present.
However, if the query is executed with this nav attribute, it will certainly hit the aggregate ( Can be checked in RSRT ).
Thanks,
Krishnan

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