Airport Extreme 802.11g vs.Belkin wireless g plus mimo router

I have an Airport Extreme 802.11g and have been having some trouble with hanging connections via my Comcast cable modem. Today I was in Staples and on a whim, bought a Belkin wireless G plus mimo router thinking that switching routers might solve my problems. Before I even take this thing out of the box, can anyone compare the 2? Am I better off just sticking with the Airport?

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I recently purchased a new router and cannot get my PowerBook to connect while using WEP security. If I turn it off I can connect but I want to have a secure network. I have tried everything I can think of. Does anyone have anu suggestions?

First I tried WPA, since I guess that's the best, but when it didn't work I tried WEP 128-bit and then 64-bit, and none of them worked. It might be that one of them would have worked if the connection wouldn't have been bad in the first place. By the time I tried 64-bit I think I didn't have a connection going, but when I tried 128-bit and WPA I think I was going off of a good connection. But as soon as I saved the changes for the security I had no connection.
If the security settings don't apply to the wired iMac (which I didn't think they did), then how come I would lose the connection to the iMac when I change the settings? That's what's gotten me really confused.
Thanks for your reply!
iMac 400 MHz PowerPC G3 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Do I need to replace my airport extreme 802.11g?

last week I started having problems with airport extreme 802.11g dropping wireless signal and/or having to connect manually. I have been pulling out AC waiting for 10 seconds and plugging back in. Sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. I will have connect for a minute and then drops again. Maybe another minute and it finds the signal again, then drops it again.
Yesterday, I changed Airport Extreme to different channel and added interference robustness. I am still having to pull the plug on extreme to reset signal and get connected on wireless network.
Have not added new hardware - all using 802.11g (did buy iphone 4S but can't believe that is the problem)
Cable signal fine
Tring to determine if buying new extreme will offer solution or if problems will continue - suggestions?

I am afraid that the interference that you are picking up is coming from outside sources. Unfortunately, you will not be able to do much about this other than try different locations for the AirPort Extreme.
I'm assuming that your AirPort Extreme is not located close to a televison or other electronic device. If it is, try to move it as far away as possible. Also try to keep it as far away from any outside walls or windows in the apartment as possible.
I was helping a friend recently who moved into a a new high rise apartment/condo development and we found that he simply could not use 2.4 GHz wireless reliably in his area due to the number of other networks and interference issues. That is likely the case in many other situations due to the explosion of wireless networks in the last few years.
For your reference, the most accurate way to judge signal quality is Signal to Noise or SNR.
Hold down the option key on your Mac and click on the Apple icon in upper left corner of the screen
Select System Profier.
Look down the list for the Network heading and then click on AirPort to highlight it
Look in the window to the right for the name of the wireless network, then look for the Signal / Noise readings. These will be negative numbers. Example: Signal / Noise -60 dBm / -80 dBm
SNR = Signal minus Noise, so -60 dB - (-80) dB = 20 dB
Then use the reference chart posted by expert user Tesserax to get a general idea of the connection quality
o 40dB+ SNR = Excellent signal
o 25dB to 40dB SNR = Very good signal
o 15dB to 25dB SNR = Low signal
o 10dB to 15dB SNR = Very low signal
o 5dB to 10dB SNR = No signal
With only 10 feet between the computer and router, you definitely should see 40 dB+ readings under normal conditions
How does your signal look if you use this method?

I'm trying to extend the range of an Airport Extreme 802.11g by adding an Airport Express 802.11n. I set the Express up to join the existing network, but it does not make any difference in the range of the network. What's wrong?

I'm trying to extend the range of an Airport Extreme 802.11g by adding an Airport Express 802.11n. I set the Express up to join the existing network, but it does not make any difference in the range of the network. What's wrong?

Let me see if I can help you with the basic WDS configuration steps:
Note: To help facilitate the setup, temporarily connect the AXn directly to the AEBS LAN port using an Ethernet cable. Once the setup is complete, you can move the AXn to the desired location. For all configuration steps you will be using the AirPort Utility. Before starting, be sure to jot down the AppleIDs for both base stations.
802.11g AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) Configuration
AirPort Utility > Select the AEBS > Manual Setup > Wireless tab
Wireless Mode: Participate in a WDS network
Manual Setup > WDS tab
WDS Mode: WDS main
Allow wireless clients (checked)
WDS Remotes: <enter the AppleID for the AXn here>
Click on Update and allow the base station to restart.
802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) Configuration
AirPort Utility > Select the AXn > Manual Setup > Wireless tab
Wireless Mode: Participate in a WDS network (Note: You may have to hold down the Option (Mac) or Control (PC) key to see this option in the list.)
Manual Setup > WDS tab
WDS Mode: WDS remote
Allow wireless clients (checked)
WDS Main: <enter the AppleID for the AEBS here>
Click on Update and allow the base station to restart.

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I bought a new AE 802.11n and I want to extend my network from my old Airport Extreme 802.11g. I can't figure out how to do this.

Unfortunately, the newer "n" AirPorts and older "g" AirPorts are not compatible if you are trying to configure the AirPort Express to "extend a wireless network" using wireless only.
The "extend a wireless network" function and feature is only found on newer "n" AirPorts.
If you can connect the AirPort Express to the older AirPort Extreme using a permanent wired Ethernet connection, it is possible to configure the Express to provide more wireless coverage that way.
Using an older, very difficult setup called WDS, it might be possible to configure the Express using wireless only, but the end result would be a network that provides only half the speed of your older "g" AirPort Extreme, so this is definitely not recommended due to the severe performance drop that will occur on the network.

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I have two Airport Extreme (802.11g) that have been working flawlessly for many years. Recently one of them started flashing all three light rabidly and I can't connect to it wirelessly with the Airport Admin Utility.
When I power cycle it, the middle light blinks once, then the outer two lights blink once, then all three lights come on momentarily and then start blinking super fast. I think that a power surge or old age have killed it as I can't hard reset it and the link light on the switch it is connected to does not illuminate either.
So, I think it's dead but I thought someone may have some information.
Thanks.

Sorry to say, but based on your description, your 802.11g AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) has (or will soon) failed.

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In order to set up the older AirPort Express, you will need.....or be able to borrow for 10-15 minutes.....a Mac running the Leopard (10.5.x), Snow Leopard (10.6.x) operating systems....or....a PC that has AirPort Utility installed on the device

Airport Extreme 802.11g freezes/crashes weekly

I have a Airport Extreme 802.11g that I have had for a few years. I use it to connect to the Internet via cable modem, and have both Ethernet and WiFi clients. It has worked fine in the past, but in the last couple months it has started crashing roughly once a week. When it crashes, I can see the WiFi SSID being announced, but when clients try to connect they get timeouts. I also cannot get an IP address via DHCP on the LAN port when it has crashed. Airport Utility cannot reach the Airport from either WiFi or Ethernet when it has crashed.
Power cycling the Airport Extreme fixes the problem every time, but since has happened ~10 times, this indicates a worrisome problem to me. I guess my next step will be to try re-uploading the latest firmware, and perhaps save my configuration to a file and then try restoring the default settings. Is there anything else I can do to try to root out the problem?
If I can't fix it, I suppose I'll buy a Time Capsule, but I'd be happier just getting my current hardware to work reliably.
Mahalo!

I just inherited one of these routers from a friend. It's running the 5.7 firmware...the latest version. I'm also seeing random lockups. When it happens, only the power light on the AE is on...the other two don't flash at all.
I think it's related to overall traffic, because I was running a program called "namebench" which tries to determine the best DNS servers in your area. It does this test by sending 2000+ requests to name servers as quickly as possible and tallying the response results. When I let the program run only once, it usually works. But when I set it to run the test 3 consecutive times, after slamming the base station for over 5 minutes it would lock up consistently every time.
I've read from a variety of sources that this is a problem that began when Apple upgraded the firmware from 5.5.1 to 5.6. The 5.6 firmware was pulled for a while, and then 5.7 came out, but apparently did not resolve the issue. But there's been no update since.
I could downgrade to 5.5.1 but I'd lose WPA2 support. So if anyone from Apple has any suggestions, that would be appreciated. I realize these are older units, but the 5.6/5.7 firmware versions seem to have some issues that really need to be addressed.
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AirPort Extreme 802.11n as a wireless router and local network switch?

Good afternoon,
I'm curious if its possible to have the APE in wireless network mode and connect systems via hard line as well?
I have an AirPort Extreme 802.11n set to "Create a Wireless Network" mode that is attached directly to a cable modem for internet connectevity. My issue is that while all wireless devices (several iPods, two iPhones and three laptop computers) connect to the APE without issue (and have internet access), when I try to plug in a Windows 7 desktop computer via one of the ethernet jacks, Windows is unable to connect and shows the network as "unidentified," spitting back a private IP address as opposed to a local LAN (this behavior repeats for an Ubuntu Linux box as well).
Not sure if the APE is misconfigured, this is a Windows 7 issue or if its improper use on my part (though this also precludes me from connecting a gigabit switch to the APE).
Thank you,
Nathan

Properly configured, the AirPort should provide both wired and wireless network client with Internet access.
At this point, I would recommend that you do the following as a minimum:
Power-down the modem, AirPort base station, and computer(s).
Power-up the modem; wait at least 10-15 minutes to allow it adequate time to initialize.
Power-up the AirPort base station; wait at least 5-10 minutes. Note: The AirPort's status light may continue to flash amber after it has intialized. That is because, there may be some additional configuration items necessary, like setting up wireless security, before the overall setup is completed to get a green status.
Power-up your computer(s).
If the above steps do not solve the problem, start over with step 1 above, but then perform the next steps between steps 1 & 2. above.
Disconnect the AirPort base station from the Internet broadband modem.
While all of the devices are powered-down, perform a "factory default" reset on the base station. This will get it back to its "out-of-the-box" configuration and make setting it up much easier, especially if you use the "Assist me" process within the AirPort Utility. (ref: Resetting an AirPort Base Station or Time Capsule)
After the base station resets, go ahead and power it back down.
Reconnect the AirPort base station to the Internet broadband modem. For the Extreme and Time Capsule, be sure to connect the cable to the base station's WAN (circle-of-dots) port.
Continue with step 2 in the first set of steps.
In this basic configuration, the AirPort base station will broadcast an unsecured wireless network with a Network Name (SSID) of Apple Network NNNNNN. Network clients, connected to the base station either by wire or wireless, should now be able to access the Internet through the ISP's modem. Once Internet connectivity has been verified, you can use the AirPort Utility to configure the base station for wireless security and any other desired options. Please post back your results.

Airport Extreme 802.11 B/G wireless periodically slows then stops ...

Anyone seen this?
I've had this Airport Extreme 802.11 B/G Base Station for awhile now. I have a Dr. Bott external Directional Antenna attached lighting up my 2 story home. Has worked great for literally years. A couple of years ago, a couple things happened. Hulu and Netflix came alive and my family started watching them religiously. We also purchased 2 Internet Enabled Televisions with HuluPlus and Netflix. We also now have Tablets that can also stream content.
Fairly soon after purchasing our first IE Television, I noticed that periodically the AX will simply lock up on the wireless side. The hard-line side still works, but traffic is stopped on the wireless "port." I can communicate to the AX via hard ethernet connections and see the configuration - it appears funcitonal. Resetting the AX makes the problem go away and will usually not return for several days. Today, this happens about once or twice a week.
Today, I was downloading a S/W update on my Corp. Lenovo W520,when this happened. I like to monitor the internet B/W on my Lenovo laptop using Windows Task Manager. I only have a 1.5M DSL outgoing line, so the WTM shows 2.5% of a 54Mbps connection when I'm pulling full BW on the DSL line. All of a sudden, I noticed the wireless connection broke (Eclamation Mark over the Win7 Wireless Tray icon.) I brought up the Task Manager Netoworking display and what I saw was the BW start to fall off from 1.4Mbps down to about 300kpbs over a 30 second period of time, then it stopped altogehter.
Here's a screenshot of the Windows Task Manager.
This "smells" to me like a S/W issue inside the AX. Anyone else seen this?

I can often see up to 3 other 2wire wireless routers (AT&T DSL) from my laptop. So can the other computers in my home. This does not prevent them from logging on to MY 2wire router, and they seem to network just fine.
My Panasonic wireless phone system works on a diffrent band - 1.9GHz
The Airport Express units are 6' and 13' from the 2wire wireless router. The one that is 13' is in the same room but near the floor, with no walls blocking it from the 2wire, which is on the opposite side of the room, 6' off the ground, and right at the doorframe of an open door leading to the rest of the house. The one that is 6' away is literraly just the other side of that open doorway- on a shelf approxmatly 6' off the ground.
I have computers that are working with the 2wire that are up to 50 ' away- and up to three rooms and a hall away. The laptops go anywhere in the house- or in the back yard, the garage, and the driveway- and all connect fine.
I cant see this as an interference issue since it is just these two devices- which worked perfectly for years, and now neither will connect- both quitting at the same time. What are the odds?
I suspect it is an Airport softwear update that "broke" them, but I cant proove it.
Also, why is it that neither will even log on for a little while, or be intermittent?

Airport Extreme 802.11g with Airport Express 802.11n Aiport Express

I have An Airport Extreme Base Station 11g and an airport express 11g and I needed to buy another Airport Express but this one is 11n and my Airport Utility does not see it. Are these new Airport Express backward compatible? The reason is the kids X-box needs the ethernet jack that the color printer uses.
Can anyone help?
Thanks!

Thank you!
I followed your advice but so far I have been able to make some progress. I went out and bought the Airport Extreme 802.11n as I needed a router too so I like the features on the new one. So I think I have made a complex situation worse, LOL.
So far, the new airport utility can only see the new & old Airport Extreme but cant see the Express-g or express-n airports as they continue to blink amber.
What do I am I doing wrong?
thx

Airport Extreme (802.11n) - Unable to wirelessly print

I have an airport extreme and have been printing wirelessly (Canon MP510) from my iMac and Macbook since I purchased the AE a little over a month ago. Suddenly I can no longer print from either computer. The only thing I've done differently is to use the printer to make some copies. I don't know if this use has messed something up. The printer shows up as the default printer, but when I call up the info on the printer when it should be printing, it shows that the printer is searching for signal. Hope someone can help.

I was able to get the printer to print again after unplugging the AE and leaving it off for a minute, then replugging. Printer works again, YEAH!!!

Airport Extreme 802.11g base station loses internet connection often

I just installed an Airport Extreme base station (802.11g version Apple Base Station V5.7) last week. And it keeps dropping my internet connection at least once a day.
I simply replaced an old SMC Barricade wireless router that died (and was a POS). But I only had to reset the SMC about once every 2 months. Nothing else has changed in my setup. Only the router/base station is different.
The wireless part is fine. Even when the internet connection gets dropped the hard wired AND wireless clients can still access the local network. Reseting the DSL modem has no effect. The only solution is to power cycle (unplug and plug back in) the AEBS OR restart it from Airport Admin utility.
But you can't do that from offsite. When the AEBS drops the internet connection I can't access my office network from home!
Is there a place in Airport Admin Utility which tells you the status of your internet connection like most generic wireless routers with web-based software do?
Any ideas on resolving this?
Thanks

"Any ideas on resolving this?"
Looter,
Based on your description, open AirPort Admin Utility and check the configuration of your main base station on the "Internet" pane. If you're using ethernet cable from the modem to the base station, the top selector [Connect Using:] should show "Ethernet" and the second selector [Configure:] should show "Using DHCP"
Also, check your iMac's System Preferences>Network at "Show: AirPort" and check the PPPoE pane which should show no entries (unless your isp requires its use), and the TCP/IP pane which should show "Configure IPv4:" as being "Using DHCP" - while all other info is filled in automatically.
"Is there a place in Airport Admin Utility which tells you the status of your internet connection like most generic wireless routers with web-based software do?"
No, the AirPort Admin Utility is not web-based, only located on your computer with the information available to it necessary to operate the AirPort system. It does not actually administer the signal. I think that is done only by System Preferences>Network.
"I'm actually referring to the Airport Express base station not my MacBook Pro's wireless connection. Is there anywhere in the Airport Admin Utility software that tells you the status of the AEBS' internet connection NOT the wireless connection."
No, that info is not available in that utility. The information you seek is at System Preferences>Network, but only after the system scans for it. Click the "Assist me..." button and then, on the "Do you need assistance setting up a new network connection or solving a network problem?" panel that opens, click the "Diagnostics..." button. A "Network Diagnostics" panel will then open and if its scan shows there is no internet the lights to the left of "Internet" and "Server" will be yellow instead of green. Meanwhile, it continues scanning for the connection until it is re-established. I determined this by pulling my cable from the phone jack, later reinserting it.
Further information that may be helpful to you can undoubtedly be found in threads such as this other one:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=884049&tstart=0
edit-
In re-reading, I may not have given you what you need. It sounds as if you may be "timing out" somehow on your connection. You might want to check around at some of your log-on settings to see if there is that possibility connected to one of them, even though the only thing I can think of is the "Renew DHCP Lease" button which is unknown to me, as I've never used it.
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