Airport Extreme (802.11n) - Airport Express (802.11n) - XBOX360 (LAGGY)

I purchased an Airport Express to bridge my Airport Extreme to my XBOX wirelessly. I used the "extend this network" option to extend my current wireless network. The XBOX is connected to the ethernet port on the express. It seems to connect to the internet fine for streaming movies or downloading files. When I try to play games the connection is extremely laggy. I can manage (barely) if I only play as a client. If I host a game everyone in the room complains that the game is unplayable. _The latency is HORRIBLE_. This is unfortunate considering I purchased this specifically to connect my XBOX instead of the Microsoft wireless adapter.
My question is -- Is there a setting I can change to make the connection faster (less laggy) or is a better option just to return the device and get the Microsoft adapter?

Hello Micah Woods. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
My question is -- Is there a setting I can change to make the connection faster (less laggy) or is a better option just to return the device and get the Microsoft adapter?
Since you are connecting your Xbox 360 to the AX via Ethernet only, I suggest that you reconfigure your new 802.11n AX as a ProxySTA instead of using it to extend the wireless range of the AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS). As a ProxySTA the AX would perform like an Ethernet bridge.
To activate ProxySTA, you must set up the Express to join a wireless network and then enable the Allow Ethernet Clients setting; both settings are located in the Wireless tab of AirPort Utility. The feature should work with any wireless network: a, b, g, or n; and 5GHz or 2.4GHz. (Note that the Express, which ships with firmware 7.3, must also be updated to firmware 7.3.1 for this feature to appear.)

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Airport Express connecting to xbox360 unable to get IP address

I am hoping someone can assist with this. Currently I have my Comcast Cable going to a uplink port on a NetGear Hub and then from the Hub i have hardwire connections going to the AE and the Xbox.
All computers on this setup get an IP fine but the Xbox cannot. It seems to be a problem the Share a Single IP address (using DHCP and NAT) setting as the Xbox does not like sharing. I have attempted to change this to Share a range of IP addresses (using only DHCP), but when I try to update this it states I require a Static IP address and removes all dynamically assigned addresses from the ISP under the Internet Tab in the Admin Utility.
If someone can please let me know where I am going wrong it would be appreciated.

Curtly, Welcome to the discussion area!
Is the Netgear device truly a 'hub' or is it a 'router'? If it is a hub you need to replace it with a router. Comcast is giving you a single IP address and your AirPort Express (AX) is getting that address. Therefore your Xbox has no connection.
The AX can not share a connection to hardware clients. Therefore the AX can not provide the Xbox with an IP address.

Airport Express: Music's playing with interruptions

Hi,
I'm having a lot of trouble trying to hear music via AirTunes on my Airport Express. Everything's fine but the speaker or headphone connected to the Airport Express-Station is very laggy, so music is not playing continously, having interruptions, like having lots of data on the stream or so. Not sure how I can get it fixed...
janosch

Might it be possible that you may have some form of WiFi interference in the area? (ref: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108065)
I suggest you perform a simple site survey, using utilities like AirPort Client Monitor (a part of AirPort Management Tools), MacStumbler, or iStumbler to determine potential areas of interference...and either, eliminate them or attempt to significantly reduce them.

Setting up Time Capsule with existing AirPort Extreme 802.11n and AirPort Express.

I already have and am using an AirPort Extreme 802.11n with an AirPort Express. I want to set up a Time Capsule 802.11n. Which is the best way to configure this?

... Which is the best way to configure this?
The answer depends on what you need the TC to accomplish. If all you need it to do is perform Time Machine backups, simply have it join your existing network in client mode. It would be if it were to connect to your existing router (presumably your Extreme), not through an "extended" wireless network (presumably your Express).
If you need the TC to "extend" your network so as to serve additional wireless clients, you can do that also. Configure it to "extend" the network created by your Extreme.
As you can see it's quite versatile.

Connecting AirPort Express to AirPort Extreme 802.11n

The following steps helped me set up an AirPort Express base station connected to a set of wireless speakers with my new AirPort Extreme 802.11n base station. I’m posting this because the process was not entirely intuitive, at least not to me.
I’ll assume you have set up the AP Extreme base station to connect to the internet and run your home network and that you are connected to your wireless network.
Make sure you set-up the AP Extreme base station to broadcast in 802.11n + 802.11b/g modes, i.e. both at once. You will also have to check he setting that allows the newtork to be extended.
Reset the AP Express base station so that in runs on the factory defaults by pressing the reset button with a paper clip. Wait for it to completely restart.
Launch the AirPort Utility. You should see both your AP Extreme and AP Express base stations in the left hand column. Click on the AP Express base station you just reset. When it asks to switch wireless networks do so. Then hit continue.
On the next screen select “Connect to my current wireless network” option and hit continue.
On the following screen select the “Extend the range of my AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express network” and hit continue. Do NOT select the “Join my wireless network” option even though it says this is how you connect to wireless speakers. This is the part that was not obvious to me. When I tried this the AirPort Express base station flashed orange and wouldn’t connect despite waiting 30 minutes.
Chose the network you wish to extend from the drop down menu. My keychain supplied the password for the network.
Give your base station a name and hit continue.
Select the main base station in the list provided. This is the one connected to the internet and hit ok.
The Airport Utility software will configure the network to accept the AirPort Express base station.
Now all that’s left is to connect your wireless speakers to the AirPort Exppress base station. You can now play music through AirTunes while being connected to your fast 802.11n network.

I recently setup an Airport Express in conjuction with my Extreme Base Station. I'm not really understanding how this method enables 802.11n connection speeds (via Base Station) to the internet and also allow streaming music through the Express at 802.11b/g. It's my understanding that if you want to be able to access the internet AND stream music at the same time the Express needs to join the network. In order for the Express to join the network (able to recognize the Base Station)...the Base station needs to be changed from 802.11n only to 802.11n (802.11b/g compatable)....which essentially means your connecting to the internet at 802.11b/g. If your wanting to keep 802.11n only on the base station...you would have to create a seperate network via the Express to stream music. What this means is you CANNOT access the internet and stream music at the same time. You would have to manually change Airport in the taskbar to do one or the other.
Am I off base here? If I am missing something please let me know...because it would be great to be able to connect to the internet at 802.11n only with a multi-case rate set to 23Mbps vs. the 11Mbps (maximum) of the 802.11b/g compatable option.
I guess what is confusing me is that my setup is basically the same as what was described above..minus having the "Extended Network" being enabled. How does extending the network change things?

I'm trying to extend the range of an Airport Extreme 802.11g by adding an Airport Express 802.11n. I set the Express up to join the existing network, but it does not make any difference in the range of the network. What's wrong?

I'm trying to extend the range of an Airport Extreme 802.11g by adding an Airport Express 802.11n. I set the Express up to join the existing network, but it does not make any difference in the range of the network. What's wrong?

Let me see if I can help you with the basic WDS configuration steps:
Note: To help facilitate the setup, temporarily connect the AXn directly to the AEBS LAN port using an Ethernet cable. Once the setup is complete, you can move the AXn to the desired location. For all configuration steps you will be using the AirPort Utility. Before starting, be sure to jot down the AppleIDs for both base stations.
802.11g AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) Configuration
AirPort Utility > Select the AEBS > Manual Setup > Wireless tab
Wireless Mode: Participate in a WDS network
Manual Setup > WDS tab
WDS Mode: WDS main
Allow wireless clients (checked)
WDS Remotes: <enter the AppleID for the AXn here>
Click on Update and allow the base station to restart.
802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) Configuration
AirPort Utility > Select the AXn > Manual Setup > Wireless tab
Wireless Mode: Participate in a WDS network (Note: You may have to hold down the Option (Mac) or Control (PC) key to see this option in the list.)
Manual Setup > WDS tab
WDS Mode: WDS remote
Allow wireless clients (checked)
WDS Main: <enter the AppleID for the AEBS here>
Click on Update and allow the base station to restart.

Speed issue with WDS, Airport Extreme, and Airport Express 802.11n

I have a Airport network set up using WDS and two airport base stations: an Airport Extreme 802.11n, and an Airport Express 802.11n. The Extreme is configured to be WDS main and is connected to my cable modem and other computers, while the express is WDS relay and acts as a switch.
I don't actually have any wireless clients connecting to the express. I'm using it to connect a mac with no airport card to the network by plugging it into the ethernet port on the express. For the most part, it works, and the mac gets a network address and can access the network. However, the connection speed from the Express to the Extreme seems slower than it should be.
Since both are 802.11n, and the Mac is plugged into the Express's 10/100 ethernet port, I figure the theoretical top speed that the Mac should be able to communicate with another device plugged into the Extreme is at around the same speeds as 100 mbps ethernet, since the 100 mbps ethernet connection should be the bottleneck in this case. In reality, the speeds are much slower: when I transfer files between a machine connected to the extreme (via ethernet) and my mac, the speed tops out at about 2 megabytes a second, if that.
I looked in the Airport Extreme's logs, and it indicates that the Express is only connected at 54 mbps, as though it were a 802.11g Express. I have no idea why this is! Also, the only wireless communication is between the Extreme and the Express, so one wireless device acting as a relay for another (and thus cutting the throughput in half) shouldn't be an issue.
Does anyone know why the speeds are so slow, and if there's anything I can do to improve them?

Hello Brian Kendall. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
I looked in the Airport Extreme's logs, and it indicates that the Express is only connected at 54 mbps, as though it were a 802.11g Express. I have no idea why this is!
That is because you established a WDS which only runs in 802.11g. Since you have two 802.11n base station, you would want to take advantage of the "Extend a network" feature available with these base stations.
Here's a typical setup:
o If practical, place the base stations in near proximity to each other during the setup phase. Once done, move them to their desired locations.
o Open AirPort Utility and select the base station that will connect to the Internet.
o Choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window. Enter the base station password if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar, and then click Wireless.
o Choose “Create a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then select the “Allow this network to be extended” checkbox.
o Next, select the base station that will extend this network, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu, or double-click the base station to open its configuration in a separate window. Enter the base station password if necessary.
o Choose “Extend a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then choose the network you want to extend from the Network Name pop-up menu.
o Enter the base station network and base station password is necessary.
o Click Update to update the base station with new network settings.
(ref: Page 46 of "Designing AirPort Networks Using AirPort Utility.)

802.11n Extreme + Airport Express on same WDS w/802.11n speed?

I'm traveling now, but when I get home on Monday morning a factory refurb Core2Duo Macbook Pro waiting for me. I've had an Airport Extreme 802.11n for a couple months now and would love to upgrade the network for 802.11n (for faster transfer speeds to the Airdisk I use as the depository for all my music). but I have an Airport Express I want to keep on the same network (in order to stream internet radio to my stereo since that feature was conveniently left out of the Apple TV, though the Express also serves as a bridge for my Xbox 360 & PS3). Is there a way to configure a WDS so I can keep the Express in the loop and enjoy 802.11n speeds? I read the Apple support doc, and it was kinda vague about whether it would work if I followed the model that involves running an Ethernet cable from the Extreme to the Express? I'd hoped the manual would clear things up, but it only left me more confused...

I have a similar issue here, only I'm keeping my snow Airport base station around just in case. I assume the following will work:
Airport Extreme 802.11n
-connects via ethernet cable to-
Airport Snow
-which connects wirelessly to-
Airport Express.
The Snow has a spare ethernet out, which can connect to a PS3, Network Area Storage Hard Drive, or a TiVo at 802.11n (or higher, since it's all wired) speeds.
The Airport Express has AirTunes out of the mini jack.
My only question is this: does having the Airport Express connected to the Airport Snow (via 802.11g, I assume) put a drag on the overall 802.11n speeds? Or because the Snow and the Express are only on "bridge" setting, it's a non-issue?

Airport Express - Extreme: only 6 MBit in 5 GHz 802.11n-only mode??

Hi!
I got an Airport Express (early 2008 model) a few weeks ago that I used in client-mode (aka "join a wireless network") in my 54 MBit WLAN.
Eventually, everything worked as I wanted and I basically always got connection speeds of 48 MBit or 54 MBit.
So yesterday, I got an Airport Extreme Base Station (802.11n model with GBit-LAN) and used it to create a new wireless network.
The settings are: 802.11n only, 5 GHz, wide channels.
Using my MacBook, I can connect to the AEBS with speeds up to 270 MBit.
But when I make the Airport Express join the new Draft-N WLAN, I only get connection speeds of 6 MBit, and that's even when I place the Express 10cm away from the Extreme.
The wireless monitor (Airport Utility->Advanced) for the Extreme shows a signal strength of -30 dBm and -95 dBm noise - still only 6 MBit connection speed.
Using my MacBook, I get much worse values but much higher connection speeds.
Both Airport devices have the latest firmware and wide channels are enabled on both, too.
I'm suspecting there might be something wrong with my Express (5GHz antenna maybe?).
Does anyone have an idea? Should I call Apple?

Problem solved:
As soon as I attach an Ethernet device to the AP Express, it's MAC address shows up in the Extreme's wireless monitor with reasonable speed while the MAC address of the Express is still listed with 6 MBit.
Looks like a "feature" of the bridge mode - when I deselect "allow ethernet clients" the "real" connection speed shows up.

AirPort Extreme 802.11ac boosted w/ 802.11n Express?

for the past year or so I have had a perfect set up that has worked wonderfully. It was an airport extreme hardwired to two different airport expresses. I had a perfect set up all three devices had the exact same Wi-Fi name and all three supported 802.11n. So why ruin a good thing? Well here's why…
recently we have obtained some new Apple devices such as new iPhone sixes and also new MacBook air is. All of our new devices are capable of supporting 802.11ac. So now I have decided to purchase the new airport extreme sixth generation which supports this new protocol of 802.11ac.
My question is this, if I have my main airport extreme configured the same way I used to have it, but now I have airport expresses that do not support this new 802.11ac protocol, am I doing myself a disservice? The boosters are located on our third level in the master bedroom where where most of the surfing is done with the newer 802.11ac devices.
with the brand-new sixth generation extreme located in my basement, most of the house is covered however in the furthest rooms, such as the master bedroom, I have an airport express hardwired and functioning fine. But my question is this how can I be sure that the MacBook air is that support 802.11 ac are actually staying connected to the basement brand-new sixth generation airport extreme instead of the closer proximity airport express?
I wish that my airport express is also supported the new protocol so that I can be sure that my entire house is covered by 802.11ac. There's nothing wrong with using 802.11n, but the reason I purchased the new extreme router was to take advantage of the faster and stronger signal of 802.11ac.
The airport expresses that I am running in my house are the newer white ones that looks to be the same shape as an Apple TV. These are not the ones with the FlipOut prongs that plug directly into the wall but instead they are the ones that have a regular power cord and it look like small little hockey pucks. Well, squares versions of hockey pucks that is.
this entire post was verbally dictated using my iPad air, so hopefully I have caught all of my typos or incorrect wording. But I think you can get the general just of my question here. I was hoping I would not need to use the airport expresses to boost the signal, but I think my home might be too big for one single router located centrally in my basement. I have it as Close to the ceiling as I could get it so the second floor is completely covered and most of the upper floor is covered and the entire basement is covered of course. It's just a few rooms that are above the garage and a few further rooms such as kids bedrooms and very important, the master bathroom. We all know how important that is. Thanks in advance to anybody who can help me with this issue.

if I have my main airport extreme configured the same way I used to have it, but now I have airport expresses that do not support this new 802.11ac protocol, am I doing myself a disservice?
Yes and no.
Yes, if you want "ac" capable devices in a remote location near the AirPort Expresses to connect at "ac" levels......because they won't.
No, if you need the extra range provided by the Express, and don't mind that the "ac" devices connect at slower "n" speeds through the AirPort Express.
But my question is this how can I be sure that the MacBook air is that support 802.11 ac are actually staying connected to the basement brand-new sixth generation airport extreme instead of the closer proximity airport express?
You can't, if all the AirPorts are producing a signal with the same wireless network name......since the MacBook Air will connect to the wireless access point with the strongest signal.....not the AirPort with the fastest signal.
IF....you assigned a different name to the wireless network that the Express devices were creating....then....you could "point" the MacBook Air at the basement AirPort network created by the AirPort Extreme 802.11ac down there.....but chances are, the MacBook Air will never connect at "ac" levels since they are carried on the 5 GHz band, which is much weaker than the 2.4 GHz signals.
In other words, 5 GHz "ac" signals are pretty much "same room" or "line-of-sight" signals. 5 GHz just won't penetrate walls and other obstructions nearly as well as slower, but much stronger 2.4 GHz signals.
The bottom line.....if you want the MacBook Air to connect at "ac" level speeds in the remote location, you will need another AirPort Extreme 802.11ac product in place of at least one AirPort Express, maybe both.

Airport Express 802.11n + Airport Extreme 802.11n 2.4ghz but not 5ghz?

I can't get my Airport Express 802.11 to extend the network of my Airport Extreme 802.11n using 5Ghz only... but it will work with "n only 2.4Ghz"....
any solutions?
Message was edited by: Eric Carpenter

Addtional info both AE's now have ver 7.5.2 installed, prior it was 7.6 and situation is still the same.

Airport Express 802.11n joining existing Aiport Extreme 802.11g network

We added an Airport Express to support Airtunes on a stereo system to an existing Airport Extreme 802.11g network. The original Extreme had an antenna to extend its range as well. The problem we are having is that the connection from an iMac keeps going up and down. Is there an issue using WDS between Airport units that are of different speeds? Any thoughts on why this might be doing this and how we can get it to operate stably again as it was with just the old Airport Extreme.

I am concerned with the speed being reduced by half per node. Do you mean if I had three access points in a WDS network the speed would be half or does it reduce to one third?
Also, I want to point out in the latest manual, WDS does support 802.11n and mixed, including wide channel, which may over come being halfed but not further reductions.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/Designing_AirPort_Networks10.5-Windows.pdf
--------excerpt from apple manual -------------------------------------
Setting Up a Wireless Distribution System (WDS)
When you connect devices wirelessly in a WDS, you set up each device as
either a main, a remote, or a relay device.
You can connect AirPort Extreme 802.11n Base Stations or Time Capsules and use the
5 GHz frequency band in the network. Only client computers that have 802.11n wireless
cards installed can join the network. If you want client computers using 802.11b or
802.11g wireless cards to join the network, set up the network using the 2.4 GHz
frequency band, or add 802.11g AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express to the network. See
“Choosing the Radio Mode” on page 21 for information about setting the frequency
band of the network. You can also set up a dual-band network that utilizes both the
2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequency bands, so client computers using 802.11n wireless cards
can join the 5 GHz segment of the network, and computers using 802.11b or 802.11g
wireless cards can join the 2.4 GHz segment. See “Setting up a Dual-Band (2.4 GHz and
5 GHz) Network” on page 48.
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Airport Extreme 802.11n and AirPort Express 802.11g on same network. Speed?

I am migrating all our Macs to 802.11n. I will have a new Extreme 802.11n base station, and all Macs will be newer models with 802.11n. However, I have an older Airport Express 802.11g that we use for the shared printer.
I have read that the ENTIRE network will run at the speed of the slowest device. Is this true? I know that the printer can only communicate at g, but will I also see the macs having to slow down to g? If so, I will upgrade to a new Express.

I have read that the ENTIRE network will run at the speed of the slowest device
That's not exactly true, but it will certainly degrade the network. A new Express (N) is your best solution to maximize the speed of your network.

Airport Extreme 802.11n and WDS with 802.11g express

I have an 802.11n Airport Extreme that I have been using with my AppleTV. I have it set to allow for 802.11b/g, since I have an old Powerbook Titanium that cannot be upgraded.
I recently decided to add my Airport Express 802.11g to the mix to act as a bridge for a remote, wired computer. I did this by enabling WDS on the Extreme/Express.
My question is this: by enabling WDS on the extreme, will the AppleTV still be able to connect at 802.11n speeds, or does it get pulled back to 11g? Is there any way to verify/check this on either the Extreme or the AppleTV?
Thanks,
keith

You can check the connection speed of each wireless client attached to a base station using Airport Utility. Launch Airport Utility, click on the Airport button in the toolbar. On the Summary tab you'll see an item called Wireless clients. It shows you how many wireless client devices are connected to that base station.
Click on the words Wireless Clients and you'll get a graph and a list. The graph shows the signal strength of each client. The list shows the client's wireless MAC, the signal and noise levels and the rate at which each device is communicating. On my Extreme-n base stations, I regularly see rates from 1 to 130 and everything inbetween. It looks like each device runs at it's best rate based on signal strength and error rate.
Assuming you know the MAC of your Apple TV (it's on the serial number label) you can see what wireless data rate it's getting this way.
The thing I've noticed is that my Extreme-g base stations seem to connect to clients at higher average rates than my Extreme-n units. In other words, on the g units I'll see more clients at 54 (the max) or 48 and on the n units just a couple will connect at 130 or 54 but most are at lower rates like 27 or 11 (even 2 or 1), even when they are in the same room as the base station.
I find that very odd and would like to understand it. Anybody have any ideas?

Trying to extend by 802.11n airport extreme using a 802.11n airport express and the express is flashing amber, trying to extend by 802.11n airport extreme using a 802.11n airport express and the express is flashing amber

trying to extend my wireles network using a 802.11n airport extreme and pluging in a 802.11n airport express and the express is flashing amber not solid green
what am i doing wrong
btw I have airport utility 5.5.3

trying to extend my wireles network using a 802.11n airport extreme and pluging in a 802.11n airport express
Can you clarify what you mean by "plugging in"? Are you saying that you are pluggin in an Ethernet cable to the AirPort Express from the AirPort Extreme?
Or, does "plugging in" mean wireless?

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