AirPort Extreme 802.11ac boosted w/ 802.11n Express?

for the past year or so I have had a perfect set up that has worked wonderfully. It was an airport extreme hardwired to two different airport expresses. I had a perfect set up all three devices had the exact same Wi-Fi name and all three supported 802.11n. So why ruin a good thing? Well here's why…
recently we have obtained some new Apple devices such as new iPhone sixes and also new MacBook air is. All of our new devices are capable of supporting 802.11ac. So now I have decided to purchase the new airport extreme sixth generation which supports this new protocol of 802.11ac.
My question is this, if I have my main airport extreme configured the same way I used to have it, but now I have airport expresses that do not support this new 802.11ac protocol, am I doing myself a disservice? The boosters are located on our third level in the master bedroom where where most of the surfing is done with the newer 802.11ac devices.
with the brand-new sixth generation extreme located in my basement, most of the house is covered however in the furthest rooms, such as the master bedroom, I have an airport express hardwired and functioning fine. But my question is this how can I be sure that the MacBook air is that support 802.11 ac are actually staying connected to the basement brand-new sixth generation airport extreme instead of the closer proximity airport express?
I wish that my airport express is also supported the new protocol so that I can be sure that my entire house is covered by 802.11ac. There's nothing wrong with using 802.11n, but the reason I purchased the new extreme router was to take advantage of the faster and stronger signal of 802.11ac.
The airport expresses that I am running in my house are the newer white ones that looks to be the same shape as an Apple TV. These are not the ones with the FlipOut prongs that plug directly into the wall but instead they are the ones that have a regular power cord and it look like small little hockey pucks. Well, squares versions of hockey pucks that is.
this entire post was verbally dictated using my iPad air, so hopefully I have caught all of my typos or incorrect wording. But I think you can get the general just of my question here. I was hoping I would not need to use the airport expresses to boost the signal, but I think my home might be too big for one single router located centrally in my basement. I have it as Close to the ceiling as I could get it so the second floor is completely covered and most of the upper floor is covered and the entire basement is covered of course. It's just a few rooms that are above the garage and a few further rooms such as kids bedrooms and very important, the master bathroom. We all know how important that is. Thanks in advance to anybody who can help me with this issue.

if I have my main airport extreme configured the same way I used to have it, but now I have airport expresses that do not support this new 802.11ac protocol, am I doing myself a disservice?
Yes and no.
Yes, if you want "ac" capable devices in a remote location near the AirPort Expresses to connect at "ac" levels......because they won't.
No, if you need the extra range provided by the Express, and don't mind that the "ac" devices connect at slower "n" speeds through the AirPort Express.
But my question is this how can I be sure that the MacBook air is that support 802.11 ac are actually staying connected to the basement brand-new sixth generation airport extreme instead of the closer proximity airport express?
You can't, if all the AirPorts are producing a signal with the same wireless network name......since the MacBook Air will connect to the wireless access point with the strongest signal.....not the AirPort with the fastest signal.
IF....you assigned a different name to the wireless network that the Express devices were creating....then....you could "point" the MacBook Air at the basement AirPort network created by the AirPort Extreme 802.11ac down there.....but chances are, the MacBook Air will never connect at "ac" levels since they are carried on the 5 GHz band, which is much weaker than the 2.4 GHz signals.
In other words, 5 GHz "ac" signals are pretty much "same room" or "line-of-sight" signals. 5 GHz just won't penetrate walls and other obstructions nearly as well as slower, but much stronger 2.4 GHz signals.
The bottom line.....if you want the MacBook Air to connect at "ac" level speeds in the remote location, you will need another AirPort Extreme 802.11ac product in place of at least one AirPort Express, maybe both.

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How to set up Airport Extreme for 11ac and 11n?

I have just purchased the new Airport Extreme (August 2014) because Apple's website states
Simultaneous dual-band support.
AirPort Extreme features simultaneous dual-band 802.11ac Wi‑Fi. That means it transmits at both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies at the same time. So no matter which band your wireless devices use, they’ll automatically connect to the best available band for the fastest possible performance.
I have number of Macs in my home from a new MacBook Pro with Mavericks to a Macbook Air with Snow Leopard (due to required software) and iPads.
So after setting up the new Extreme my new MacBook only accesses 11n as does my older Macs. I checked by holding down the option key while clicking the WiFi icon at the top of my Mac. Well, not so automatic then as I was expecting 11ac and 3 times faster access (as stated by Apple).
I then looked for some documentation for setting up but cannot find anything.
Hence my question here.
How to set up Airport Extreme for 11ac and 11n simultaneously?
At present the new Extreme is no better than my previous 2 year old one.
Thank you.
Michael

How to set up Airport Extreme for 11ac and 11n simultaneously?
Assuming that it is operating correctly, 802.11ac and 802.11b/g/n are broadcast simultaneously by default.
Simultaneous dual-band support.
AirPort Extreme features simultaneous dual-band 802.11ac Wi‑Fi. That means it transmits at both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies at the same time. So no matter which band your wireless devices use, they’ll automatically connect to the best available band for the fastest possible performance.
That is advertising. The real information is usually found in the small and hard to read footnotes:
Based on theoretical peak speeds. Actual speeds will be lower.
AirPort Extreme is based on an IEEE 802.11ac draft specification. Performance based on comparison with Apple’s 802.11n products. Comparison assumes AirPort Extreme network with 802.11ac-enabled computer. Speed and range will be less if an 802.11a/b/g product joins the network. Accessing the wireless network requires a Wi‑Fi-enabled device. Actual speed will vary based on range, connection rate, site conditions, size of network, and other factors. Range will vary with site conditions.
Since the 802.11ac signal is being broadcast only using the 5 GHz band, some users report that they have had better results by using the option to assign a different name to the 5 GHz band, and then pointing their Mac to that specific signal or network. You may want to try that option.
But first as a test, please locate the MacBook Pro about 10-15 feet or 3-4 meters from the AirPort Extreme with clear line-of-sight between the two devices. Restart both the AirPort Extreme and the Macbook Pro and then check to see if the Mac is connected to an 802.11ac signal.
If not, please power off your other wireless devices...computers, mobile devices, etc. temporarily, and try the same test again.
Please report on your results.

I have Airport Extreme as the base unit and an Express unit in a room separated by a brick wall to improve signal. Express shows a green light indicating signal but my iPad does not perform well. How can I improve other than hardwire ethernet connection?

I have Airport Extreme as the base unit and an Express unit in a room separated by a brick wall to improve signal. Express shows a green light indicating signal but my iPad does not perform well. How can I improve other than hardwire ethernet connection?

Other suggestions, and more info about the nature of the problem, may be in this Apple tech note.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1365
For example, you might find that the brick wall is not the only problem. There may be other devices pumping out enough wireless interference to be making things even worse.
I agree with Bob Timmons that Ethernet is best and most reliable. And that powerline (which I use) is easier and potentially faster than wireless...but only if your power lines do not have electrical devices plugged in which produce electrical noise on the line. Powerline will be slower than Gigabit Ethernet.
Ethernet cable is the only way to ensure that the signal goes directly there in a shielded way for a clear fast signal. Wireless and powerline are much slower because of all the other things the signal has to fight past to get to the other device.

Does Airport Extreme still function at 802.11ac if an 802.11n device is connected to network?

I have an Airport Extreme and iPhone 6 which both operate on 802.11ac. I have noticed when an 802.11n device (DVD player) is also connected to my network my connection rate on my iPhone 6 drops to 802.11n rather than the faster 802.11ac. All of the literature I have read states that Airport Extreme is capable of transmitting at both 2.4ghz and 5ghz simultaneously (I have no questions about that), however is Airport Extreme incapable of transmitting to both 802.11ac and 802.11n devices simultaneously? If so, why did I spend all that money on a router that boasts 802.11ac technology but slows to 802.11n if an 802.11n device is connected?

It should do both at once.. AC is only on 5ghz and I highly doubt the DVD player is using 5ghz.. however you might need to force the phone to connect to 5ghz.. as it will always join the strongest signal not the best or fastest wireless..
So simply set two wireless names.. eg AE24ghz for the 2.4ghz and AE5ghz for the 5ghz band.. whatever you name it include the freq as it makes it easier to know what is going on.
Then force the phone to join the 5ghz and it should work just fine at AC speed. Even as the DVD is running on 2.4ghz. Of course if bandwidth is consumed by both and your internet is limited it may reduce your speed to well below N wireless even.

Airport Extreme Card won't run 802.11n

I have an AirPort Extreme card (0x14E4, 0x90) Firmware Version: Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.36.1) in a MacMini Intel Core 2 Duo 3,1.
Using a Billion 7404VNPX wireless router, the card will only run on 802.11g.
At the same time, I've fitted a 3rd party wireless g/n card to an ancient PowerMac G4, and it runs perfectly happily on 802.11n
Can someone suggest how to make the card do what it's supposed to do?

William Boyd, Jr. wrote:
Sorry, but that card can only run 802.11b/g, so it really is doing just what it's supposed to.
Well, if that's the case, perhaps Apple should improve the System Profiler reporting. Here's what mine reports for this card:
en1:
Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x14E4, 0x90)
Firmware Version: Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.36.1)
Locale: APAC
Country Code: X1
Supported PHY Modes: 802.11 a/b/g/n
Supported Channels: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 36, 40, 44, 48, 52, 56, 60, 64, 149, 153, 157, 161, 165
Wake On Wireless: Supported
Status: Connected
Hmmm....wonder if I can get a refund or replacement?

Trying to set up 2 Airport Extremes to replace my old 802.11g pair.

Hello...
I am trying to set up my extended Airport Extreme network with new Extremes to replace my older 802.11g pair.
Here is the situation: I have Cable 'net access that comes into my studio. It is then wired to the "Studio Extreme" into the WAN port. Then there is an Ethernet wire from the Ethernet port to a hub, which is wired through the wall to hub 2, that goes apx 500ft via CAT6 to my house. Then there is another hub that wires all the Ethernet ports in the walls of the house. Out of one port is AirPort Extreme # 2.
The Problem:
My old AirportExtreme #2 works fine. The new one won't play nice.
The Studio Airport is set to: Create A Wireless Network with WPA2 Personal security. It is happy with a green light.
The New AirportExtreme 802.11n is set to: Extend a wireless network with WPA2 Personal Security. It says Connect using: Wireless network.
I have tried to set it up with the Ethernet cable going into the WAN port, and the Ethernet port. When it is in the WAN port, it says "nothing is in the WAN port". When it is in the Ethernet port, it says It can't find the network. I have tried unplugging everything and turning it back on, in reverse order etc. When I bring the New Extreme #2 to the studio, it plays nice, but I suspect it is working wirelessly with the Studio Extreme. (?).
I have tried to set it to "Create a wireless network" as I have seen suggested in some forums. Still doesn't make it happy.
I also tried to let the software " replace the old Airport with the new Airport" . that didn't work either.
The Old Extreme 802.11g still works and is happy also. Its cable is plugged into the Ethernet port and it transmits throughout the house.
I am going nuts trying to get this to work! Why does the old one work and not the new one?
HELP!!!!
Thank you!

You got ahead of things here (and chose the wrong settings), but we can correct things.
Reset the AirPort Extreme again, please.
Then open AirPort Utility, select the AirPort Extreme, and click Manual Setup.
Click the Base Station tab under the row if icons to name the AirPort Extreme, assign a device password and adjust Time Zone settings.
Now, click the Wireless tab next to the Base Station tab and adjust settings as follows:
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network (Extend is used only if you connect using wireless...and you are connecting using Ethernet)
Wireless Network = Same name as your "main" AirPort Extreme
Enter a check mark next to Allow this network to be extended
Radio Mode = Automatic
Radio Channel = Automatic
Wireless Security = Same setting as the "main" AirPort Extreme
Wireless Password = Same password as the "main" AirPort Extreme
Confirm Password
Click the Internet icon, then click the Internet Connection tab
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Click Update and wait 25-30 seconds for a green light
Very Important......Power off the entire network and wait a minute or two
Power up the modem first and let it run a minute by itself
Power up the "main" AirPort Extreme the same way
Power up the "remote" AirPort Extreme the same way
Continue powering up devices one at a time until everything is powered up
The network should now be functioning correctly.

My power mac g4 with wireless card 801.11b cannot log into new AirPort Extreme 801.11ac network

everything worked until I upgraded to airport extreme. I used all same settings as with previous extreme al other items logged in to new network, but would not accept power mac. Apple wireless card 801.11b may not be able to communicate with AC standard. Can anyone suggest an upgrade card or means of getting the power mac on the wireless network to communicate with various wireless printers

Hello!
I have noticed that some manufacturers (Linksys and possibly D-LINK) only accept upper-case WEP keys only.
This drove me nuts when trying to integrate a Linksys PC PCMCIA card into my old "g" network.
As far as using WEP, it's bad and broken; but I understand that your choice of security is limited to the devices that you are trying to network.
For what it's worth, I have my network set up with the AEBS 'n' connected to my Cable Modem, with one of the ports going to a gigabit switch for my wired network. I then have two AirTunes set up as WDS extensions for music & Internet delivery to two separate areas. The AEBS 'n" serves up DHCP and routing for the entire network.
It works quite well; I get 54 mbits/sec for the two WDS AirTunes, and 145 mbits/sec to one of my ATV's. My gigabit wired machines see data rates of 15-27 MBytes/sec (depending on the type of transfer).
Good luck!

Extending and airport extreme network with wired connection to a express

I am getting fed up of deadspots in my house that now seem to have become much worse recently. After giving up on configuring my extreme router to avoid issues I now want to extend the network.
If I put in a network cable from the extreme router to an airport express on the other side of the house can this be configured to be the same wireless network?
I know express routers have an option of extending the network is this for wired or wireless or both and if I do this will it show up as one wireless network with no interference issues?. At the moment I am planning on getting an express airport and using some of those power cable ethernet adapters to link the two routers up should this work okay?
Many thanks
Andy

Welcome to the discussions, Andy!
If I put in a network cable from the extreme router to an airport express on the other side of the house can this be configured to be the same wireless network?
Yes, post back if you need more details about this.
and if I do this will it show up as one wireless network with no interference issues?
There will be no interference issues between the AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express. However, if you live in an area with a number of other wireless networks around you, or you have cordless phones, there may well be some interference issues to tackle.
I am planning on getting an express airport and using some of those power cable ethernet adapters to link the two routers up
That should work assuming that both ethernet powerline adapters will be on the same master electrical circuit. I would suggest that you get a clear understanding of the store's return policy though...just in case.
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I have an airport extreme for my main internet connection, an express to listen to music on my home theatre, another express to extend the network upstairs, and one more express for my wireless printer. whats the best way to setup the express stations?

So basically I would like to know if its best to have them setup on "join a wireless network" or "extend a wireless network"
Obviously the one I use to extend the network is setup that way, the other 2 are set on "join a network"
is this the optimal configuration? or should I have them all on "extend a wireless network" ?

There is really no "best" setting here for the AirPort Express devices. If you need more wireless coverage in the area where an Express is located, then it makes sense to configure the Express to "extend" a wireless network.
If you already have good coverage in an area where an Express is located, then the "join" configuration makes sense.
I've yet to meet the first user who felt that he/she had too much wireless signal coverage in their home, but you never know.

Can I extend a network with an AirPort Extreme Base Station Rather than with an Express?

Topic title pretty well sums up the question.
I have a TimeCapsule Base Station with two Expresses for extending the network through the house.
We're doing a 3 room addition, and there is not a convenient place to put an Express in a wall outlet in the middle room of the addition, but there's a perfect place to put an Extreme on top of a piece of furniture.
So, can the Extreme act as an "extender" only, in lieu of using an Express?

pcbjr wrote:
Topic title pretty well sums up the question.
I have a TimeCapsule Base Station with two Expresses for extending the network through the house.
We're doing a 3 room addition, and there is not a convenient place to put an Express in a wall outlet in the middle room of the addition, but there's a perfect place to put an Extreme on top of a piece of furniture.
So, can the Extreme act as an "extender" only, in lieu of using an Express?
Hiya.
You can absolutely extend a network with an Extreme. I've got a 5th gen. Extreme extending a network created with a 3rd gen. Time Capsule. On the Extreme, you'll have the option to allow (or not) WiFi clients. I recommend having all units updated to the current firmware (7.6.1 as of this writing). Note that extending doesn't work in daisy-chain fashion, meaning that your Expresses or Extremes will each connect to and extend from the TC. As such, you'll want the TC to be in as central a location as possible to offer the best coverage.

Does airport extreme 802.11a/c work with airport express 802.11n

does airport extreme 802.11a/c work with airport express 802.11n

"You can use the AirPort Express to extend the signal provided by the new AirPort, but the Express will not extend "ac" wireless since it does not have that capability. The Express will extend an "n" wireless signal if that helps."
This is what I am trying to understand.
So AXTRM w/ sep SSID for 2.4 (b/g/n) - call it SSID1 - and 5GHz (ac) call it SSID2 - WiFi Explorer confirms AC mode on 5G.
Using an AXPRESS to extend - I have the option of SSID1 b/g/n *and* the 5GHz ac SSID2 in the pulldown (it sees both?) --> if I select SSID1, it also extends this same SSID in 5GHz (both showing b/g/n) >> so I now have 3 signals on SSID1 (XTRM 2.4G, XPRS 2.4G and XPRS 5G) b/g/n and one signal on SSID2 (XTRM 5G AC) ac
If I select the 5Ghz ac SSID2 to extend - it prompts me "do you also want to extend (the 2.4GHz SSID1)?" --> select yes and I now have 2 signals for SSID (XTRM 2.4G & XPRS 2.4G) b/g/n and 2 signals on SSID2 (XTRM 5G 802.11ac & XPRS 5G 802.11 a//n)
Is the 5G SSID2 actually being extended from the Airport Extreme to the Express?
The reason I bring this up is I am having a lot of issues since iOS8 came out (especially on iPhone 6). Everything I am reading is pointing to when people have 2 AP's set to use the same SSID. When you walk to a part of the house where 5G 802.11 ac signal marginalizes, the phone does not immediately hand over to the 5G 802.11 a/n Airport Express.
My thought was separate the SSID's but to me, if the Express can't extend 5Ghz from the Extreme, it's taking a step backwards. I am better off getting a more powerful router like an ASUS and going with one AP, drop the WiFi roaming altogether
Any thoughts?

802.11n + Airport Extreme Base Station: Questions?

I'm no aficionado on wireless technology but I thought the new 802.11n spec was just a draft and nothing was set in stone, so how can Apple upgrade and sell products to this spec??
Is anyone of the opinion that a lot of the post 10.4.8 wireless connectivity problems being experienced by a lot of iMac and Pro intel-mac users is to do with Apple trying to roll out SW and HW that conform to this new spec instead of, in the first instance, ensuring robust solutions with the common 802.11g protocol with their new intel range? In effect, are they trying to run before they can walk with this?
Would having a new Airport Extreme Base Station thus Airport Extreme card upgraded to be 802.11n compatible, instead of a 3rd party modem/router at 802.11g solve all these connectivity problems, or, is anyone else experiencing the same problems with the new Base Station and 802.11n enabled card??
Lastly, is anyone aware if apple intend to upgrade and release a new [plugin] Airport Express Base Station compatible with the new 802.11n draft?
I have two AE's acting as print servers and powering remote speakers; would enabling my 17” iMac C2D to 802.11n affect output to the Airport Express base stations???
Luke
17" iMac Intel Core Duo, 2.16, 2G RAM Mac OS X (10.4.8) ADSL Nation X-Station Modem/Route; 2 x Airport Express Base Stations
17" iMac Intel Core Duo, 2.16, 2G RAM Mac OS X (10.4.8)
17" iMac Intel Core Duo, 2.16, 2G RAM Mac OS X (10.4.8)

I too do not see why the rush to Draft N when the specs might change enough to make a substantial purchase worthless once the standard is finalized. I have read too many articles mentioning that the current technology isn't worth it just yet.
Furthermore, many people are buying Draft N networking thinking that it will give them a huge boost in their internet. Since even the slower 802.11G is faster that what most ISPs provide, no one will see faster downloads. The main benefits are range and speeds on your local area network - that is in transferring files from one computer to another.
It is possible that the problems some users are seeing is due to the cards Draft N status, but I do not think so. If that were the case, we would be seeing a lot of complaints in the PC world since they are using the same equipment and I haven't seen complaints there.
Since 802.11N is 802.11N it should not make a difference whether it is Apple or D-Link or any other brand, but as a draft standard there are variations in the implementation that I have read about in the PC world. Some routers are better than others and some should just be avoided.
Apple doesn't allow us to speculate here, but I am sure that sooner or later Apple will update the Airport Express to Draft N as well.
Updating your iMac to Draft N should not make a difference at all with your current setup.

Airport Extreme - Only the 802.11n only (5 ghz) works

Airport Extreme - Only the 802.11n only (5 ghz) works
Posted: Sep 21, 2008 2:50 AM Reply Email
I just bought an new Airport extreme Base station, and i am not very good with network settings. I am experience an weird problem.
I follow the instruction to set up the Airport extreme. I get the green light on the extreme, everything went well up to that point. but then when i try to connect to the internet wirlessly, it won't let me.
The weird thing is... the computers that were connecting wirely to the Airport extreme using ethernet works fine. but my macbook pro and along with other labtops are not being able to connect to the internet. On my macbook pro, it first says connection failed after i put in my password. but after couple try on entering the password( i thought i typed it in wrong), it finally connected to the network but still no internet. then I went to the network preference panel to check, it says i am connected but with a self-assigned IP and may not be able to connect to the internet.
The even worse thing is... if i change my airport extreme to only broadcast the 802.11n only (5 GHZ) mode, everything works fine. But of course I have some device in the house are not N compatible, which makes this "solution" pretty useless. I understand n is faster and all, but I still want my G compatible device to work with my network.
It will be really nice if anyone can give me a solution and help me get the 802.11n (a/b/g compatible) works.
Thank you.

I am having the exact same issue with my Macbooks. I have 2 Macbooks and they've all stopped connecting to the Airport Extreme router via wireless N. Yeah, I can switch to 5ghz mode, but then my PC laptop, iPod Touch, wireless printer, Xbox 360 wifi adapter and Nintendo Wii all can't connect as they all use wireless a/b/g.
BRUTAL. When are we going to get a fix for this? How do I roll back to a previous rev of OSX, if that's the issue (it must be, as this recently stopped working - i.e. when I installed the latest OS update - when it has worked fine for months).
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Trying to extend by 802.11n airport extreme using a 802.11n airport express and the express is flashing amber, trying to extend by 802.11n airport extreme using a 802.11n airport express and the express is flashing amber

trying to extend my wireles network using a 802.11n airport extreme and pluging in a 802.11n airport express and the express is flashing amber not solid green
what am i doing wrong
btw I have airport utility 5.5.3

trying to extend my wireles network using a 802.11n airport extreme and pluging in a 802.11n airport express
Can you clarify what you mean by "plugging in"? Are you saying that you are pluggin in an Ethernet cable to the AirPort Express from the AirPort Extreme?
Or, does "plugging in" mean wireless?

Airport Extreme 802.11n should I WDS or Extend to Bridge ethernet?

If I buy two Apple Airport Extreme Base Stations (dual-band 802.11n) can I set-up WDS without dropping speeds to G? I've read that if I have any 802.11b/g clients that the entire WDS clocks down to 802.11g. I'm wondering if that is true with the new simultaneous dual band models? Can't I WDS the 802.11n bands and offer 802.11g simultaneously to clients on the other band without bringing the WDS down? Do I want to?
I would just "extend" but I don't want to have the wireless clients have to go through two "hops" to get out to the internet. As I understand it... all of my wireless clients would go through the relay, then to the main, then out the Internet instead of just connecting straight to the Main. My range doesn't need to be extended as far as coverage goes... one base station would cover my entire house. I'm basically just looking at the other AEBSn to act as a wireless to ethernet bridge to a part of my house where I several ethernet enabled devices out of hardwire range. Do I need the AEBSn or maybe just the new 802.11n AE?

Welcome to the discussions!
+I'm basically just looking at the other AEBSn to act as a wireless to ethernet bridge to a part of my house where I several ethernet enabled devices out of hardwire range. Do I need the AEBSn or maybe just the new 802.11n AE?+
The simplest, which may also be the best way to do this is use an AEBS as your "main" router and configure an AirPort Express 802.11n to "join" the wireless network and enable the ethernet port. Then connect a simple 5 port switch to the port on the AirPort Express for your ethernet devices.
Oddly, if you configure a second "remote" AEBS to "join", the ethernet ports +are not+ enabled on the AEBS. The ethernet ports are enabled, if you configure it to "extend a wireless network".

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