ALE-Message Control

Hi ,
Can U briefy about what is Message control and when it is used in ALE Distribution.?
Is it used only for Transactional data sending or any data?.
Thanks
Rohan.A

Hi,
Message control is for transactrional data only,this is for to handle messages automatically based on condition records.
ex: for ME21 u will create the condition records in transaction mn04,there u have to assign medium for that perticular vendor,based on this it will handle.
thanx.

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Can anyone send about ALE-MESSAGE CONTROL with real time scenario?

hi friends,
i have doubt on ALE-MESSAGE CONTROL METHOD.
SO, anyone can explain with a real time example.
If have a chance please send with screenshots or with navigations

Check out this blog:
Message Control (Output Control) for ALE
Raja

Is it possible to use BAPI-ALE to send an idoc using the message control?

Hi Guys
Is it possible to use BAPi-ALE to send an IDOC using a message control?
I have configured the system to send an IDOC when a outbound delivery is saved in the system.
I have done the following.
1). I am using the std BAPI-ALE interface provided by the object type LIKP.
2). I am using the method SAVEREPLICA for which an interface already exists in BDBG transaction.
3). I hace created a distribution model in BD64 and added the BAPI - LIKP and SAVEREPLICA
4). Created a partner profile ( using the generate partner profile option in the BD64 transaction )
QUESTION:
1). How do i associate the custom OUTPUT type created for Delivery ?
2). I tried to associate the custom output type in the Partner profile definition under the message control tab but i am not sure which Process code to be used? Since the partner profile was generated automatically from BD64 it has an entry for SHP_OBDLV_SAVE_REPLICA as a message type in the outbound parameters. and i am unable to find a process code for this Message type in WE41. So what process code should i use in the Message control tab against the custom output type?
3). Do i need to leave the message control tab empty without making any entry? If yes then how would the system come to know that it needs to trigger this partner profile when the custom output type is proposed by the system?
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ALE issue:No partner profiles (message control) maintained

Hi,gurus:
My ALE scenario is tranferring PO from client 800 to 900 client.
Now the logical system,partner profile，port，rfc，distribution model are created both the sender and receiver side.
In ME21N->MESSAGE, the output type is NEU,and medium is A,partner function is LS,partner is ECCCLNT900.
When I saved the PO,the status is red,and no idoc was generated.
I viewed the processing log,the information is: No partner profiles (message control) maintained.
But my distribution model is sender:ECCCLNT800;receiver:ECCCLNT900;MESSAGE：ORDERS;
The partner profile is ECCCLNT900(LS),and the outbound parameters are ORDERS,SYNCH. For ORDERS,the message control is EF,NEU,ME10.
Have you ever met this issue?
Thanks in advance.

Hi Li,
Please refer this threads...
Re: Message is not proposing automatically
Re: IDoc was saved but cannot or should not be sent
Hope you have to post this thread in ABAP General category..
Regards,
kumar.

Ale/Idocs ..... what is the role of message control

Hi Guy s..
Can Any one.. tell me.. Importance of message control , Stand alone and change pointer s in Ale Idoc''' and where to use...

Hi,
Message Control:
With Message Control is documents are output based on
certain conditions. In ALE scenarios this is basically used for transfer transaction data (fulfilling configuration settings defined in message control) from one system to another system.
Example: If you want to send purchase order IDocs from customer to vendor system using ALE. When saving of purchase order the IDocs should be triggered. Further the IDocs should only be sent when the purchasing document fulfils certain conditions - purchase document of a certain document type only needs to be sent. By output control we can configure the conditions and the timing (when the document should be triggered) and using ALE (as interfacing technology) we can send IDocs (containing application data fulfilling conditions) from one system to another system.
For More Info on Message Control,
/people/gajendra.bhakuni/blog/2007/03/13/message-control-output-control-for-ale
Change Pointers:
Change pointers are the mechanism through which you can send data to another SAP system or external system if there is a change happening to specific fields of master data.
Change Pointer (Master Data Distribution)
Purpose
If you want to distribute master data changes with the SMD tool (Shared Master Data), changes to the master data objects are flagged for distribution by change pointers ( ® Master Data Distribution).
The SMD tool is connected to the change document interface. If the master data changes are to be distributed, the application writes a change document. The contents of this are passed to the SMD tool. The tool writes change pointers, reads the application data and creates the master IDoc.
The master IDoc is then passed to the ALE layer, which sends it to all interested systems.
The change pointer tables (BDCP und BDCPS) should be as small as possible. Use as few change pointers as possible and delete change pointers which you no longer need.
do the following steps for Change pointers ::
1) Tcode BD61---> check the change pointers activated check box
save and goback.
2) Tcode BD50---> check the MATMAS check box save and comeback.
3) Tcode BD51---> goto IDOC_INPUT_MATMAS01 select the checkbox save and comeback.
4) Tcode BD52---> give message type : matmas press ok button.select all what ever you want and delete remaining fields.
save & come back.
5) 5) go to Tcode MM02 select one material and try to change the description and save it
it will effects the target systems material desciption will also changes
6) goto Tcode SE38 give program Name is : RBDMIDOC and Execute
give Message type : MATMAS and Executte
go through this link which ll give you detail about the change pointer
http://www.angeli.biz/www5/cookbooks/workflow/workflow_30/docu.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/12/83e03c19758e71e10000000a114084/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/dc/eb683c00e8a646e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Regards,
Padmam.

ALE with Message Control

Hi Guys,
I have a small problem. I wish to trigger an IDoc to my Vendor as soon as a Purchase Order is created in my system. I am using Message Control for it.
All the configuration for proposing the output type have been done and I am getting the desired output type shown in the "Messages" with correct recepient . But when the PO is saved and the Idoc is generated I find that the IDoc is sent to some other Logical System and not to the vendor.
I have created the partner profile for the Vendor with the outbound parameters.
Can anybody tell me what am I missing or could be wrong in my settings?
Regards,
Prakash Pandey

Do you have a specific requirement?
For example, purchase order message control parameters will look like this,
Message type - Orders
application - EF
Message type - NEU
Process code ME10
For purchase order change,
Message type - ORDCHG
application - EF
Message type - NEU
Process code ME11
Change flag set

ALE - How to use outbound message control on HR to Accounting IDOC?

Hi all,
I have a scenario where I want to transfer, using IDocs, Payroll posting to Accounting but I don't want to transfer the posting of Travel trips. Since, on the distribution model, I am using method "AcctngEmplyeeExpnses.Post" which is needed for the payroll, everytime a travel document is posted, the system creates also an IDoc with message type "ACC_EMPLOYEE_EXP". I would like, then, to use the message control feature on partner profile to avoid the creation of IDocs with object type TRAVL. Any help will be appreciated.
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Miguel

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Output type not proposed in Message Control when PO is created

Hi,
DETAILS
I have set up the system to send a IDOC when a PO is created. I have done the following settings in the system to send the IDOC using the message control functionality in the PO creation screen.
1). Created a new output type ZNEU which is an exact copy of NEU output type provided by the SAP system.
2). Assigned the new output type to the output determination procedure.
3). Enabled the new output type ZNEU for ALE distribution.
4). Maintained the condition records in the system for the output type ZNEU such that for the P org, endor and Docmuent type combination the output shall be proposed.
5). Maintained a partner profile( Logical System ) and assigned the output type ZNEU to this partner profile.
6). Created a Distribution model for Sender ~ Receiver for ORDERS message type.
PROBLEM
When i create a PO the new output type is not getting proposed by the system. I am not sure why it is not getting porposed in the message control.
I tried to manually enter the ZNEU output type in the system to see if the system is accepting. I am getting an error
Partner % does not exist for partner function LS
Any idea what i am missing? Am i missing any configuration or am i doing something wrong?
cheers

The output is not being proposed automatically is becuase you are missing "Condition Records" for the output type ZNEU.
Go to NACE.
Select EF - Purchase Order
Select "Condition Records"
Select ZNEU and select condition records
Now, system will bring the combinations of access sequence. Maintain appopriate record.
This will enable you to get the output type automatically in the purchase order.
Regards,
Naimesh Patel

How to send IDoc(Sales Order Confirmation) without Message control

Hi,
I need to send Sales Order confirmation,Delivery and Invoice through ALE (IDoc's). I am asked not to use MESSAGE CONTROL or CUSTOM IDoc to send confimation.
I dont need to send a instant confirmation but i can do it at a specified time intervals.
Do we have any other possiblity other than the both?
Can you please give the steps to do, if possible?
Thank you in advance,
Gangolu.

Hi
This link may be useful
Re: Re-open EDI - ORDCHG for outbound sales order

Why we are not using "Message Control" for Master data ?

Hi friends,
We are using Message control as output determination for Transactional data, what is the main reason for not using the msg control for Master data.Please explain with details...
I am very thankful to them...
Thanks and Regards.
Naveen Kumar. Chamala

Hi Naveen,
 Listing down those I know -
 1. Master data is expected to be changed/created less frequestly.
 2. Transactional data is expected to be chnaged/created more frequestly.
 3. Transactions to create/change/display master data do no have message control integration, since you are not supposed to print/fax/mail master data to your partners.
 4. Distribution of master data in generally supposed to happen within Enterprise boundry and typically you will have one central server maintaining master data which will be distributed to multiple downstream operation system (Some thing where MDM fits). So ideally when distributing master data using ALE you will be sending it to multiple systems.
 5. Distributing transactional data PO/SO etc is same as sending fax/print which fits with the requirement of message control.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Sanjeev

Message "Wrong partner type LS" in message control

Hi All,
I am trying to send PO's out to a middleware system. I have configured the middleware system as a LS (logical system) done all the config required for Message control.
But when I enter Output type = NEU and Medium = A (ALE) and Partner Function = LS and partner name and save the PO, I get the error "Wrong Partner type LS" in the processing log for that message. The details description says "The message record of the message control contains a partner role with a partner type LS that cannot be used here. Only the 'KU' and 'LI' partner types are allowed.". But i need to send it to partner type LS.
Am I missing anything. Please Advise.
Thanks in advance

Hi!
'By default' purchase orders can be send to vendors or plants - the two parties in the document. This is linked to the two different partner types KU and LI. Only partners of this type of a purchase order can be used to send data.
Check, if you can create a partner definition (WE20) for KU (hopefully you have less plants then vendors).
You also need a partner determination for the document - only out of this partners automatically a message output can be assigned.
Regards,
Christian

Message control vs with out message control

tell me the differenece between message control and without message control.

Message control and output type. In R/3, message control is a mechanism by which documents are output based on certain selection criteria, requirements, and sequences. Message control determines the type of document, its timing, number, and medium (print, fax, ALE, or EDI.). Outbound messages in SD (Sales and Distribution) and MM (Materials Management, Purchasing) are created and processed by message control records. The output records are stored in the NAST table.
Message control uses the condition technique. The conditions for creating an output message are stored in condition tables that have selection fields picked from a catalog of application fields/tables. To determine if an application document qualifies for output, search strategies are used through access sequences, output procedures, and requirements. Once a message qualifies for output, message control modules use the parameters set in the condition type or output type to determine the timing of transmission and the medium of the message. The output type also specifies the program or module to be invoked to create the output.
Message/output determinations are concepts applicable not only to EDI and ALE, but also to other output mediums.

No partner profiles (message control) maintained.

Hi Friends,
I have created a PO but getting error message in output type that
No partner profiles (message control) maintained.
Message no. B1127
Diagnosis
No IDOC partner profiles have been created for the message control for for application EF, condition key ZDPO and change message '' with partner type 'LS' and partner role ' '.
Procedure
Please create the partner profiles for the logical system that should contain the IDOC. You can either generate them from the ALE model or create them manually.
Any pointers.
Regards

Hi,
I get the same Error message can someone help?
No partner profiles (message control) maintained
Message no. B1127
Diagnosis
No IDOC partner profiles have been created for the message control for for application EF, condition key ZZVA and change message '' with partner type 'LS' and partner role ' '.
Procedure
Please create the partner profiles for the logical system that should contain the IDOC. You can either generate them from the ALE model or create them manually.
I need to send my PO information to a Logical system.
1) Created new message type ZZBA. Message type triggers automatically but fails.
2) I did create a LS Partner profile (PART123) in WE20
3) In outbound parameters, in partner profile I entered
LS/ORDERS
4) Basic type- ORDERS01
5) In message control i have
EF/ZZBA/ME10
6) Maintained condition record for ZZBA
PO type/ LS/PART123/A/4/EN
please help
Regards
Raj

What is message control?

Hi all,
What is message control? esp in Idocs..... Any docs links on Message control?
Thanks,
Charles.

hi,
Message control
Application like PO(purchase order) creation use this technique , where the output type is linked to the application(Message control is a configurable cross application component which can be set in IMG .Such programs are created in the form of function modules and linked to the output type which is linked to the apllication.These have predefined interfaces.
In outbound programs(function module) that use message control the key of the
application document is passed to the function module whcig will read the data from the table depending upon the key passed(NAST structure) and fill the IDOC segemnts with the application data.The control record is also passed to the function module but is not fully filled, the rmaining fields are filled and the control is passed back to the calling program which is RSNASTED and is invoked by the
message control to process ALE and EDI output types and this program on recieving the IDOC data will create the physical IDOC in the system.
The parameteers passed to the function module are
IMPORTING PARAMETERS
OBJECT LIKE NAST
It contains documents key.
CONTROL_RECORD_IN LIKE EDIDC
It contains the partailly filled control record
EXPORETING PARAMETER
OBJECT_TYPE
CONTROL_RECORD_OUT LIKE EDIDC
TABLES
INT_EDID LIKE EDIDD
The internal table used to fill the data records in the same order as they exists in
the IDOC.
The important parameters that should be filled in the custom function module are
CONTROL_RECORD_OUT and INT_EDIDD .The OBJK field of the structue NAST contains the key of the apllication document.
===========================================
Message control and output type. In R/3, message control is a mechanism by which documents are output based on certain selection criteria, requirements, and sequences. Message control determines the type of document, its timing, number, and medium (print, fax, ALE, or EDI.). Outbound messages in SD (Sales and Distribution) and MM (Materials Management, Purchasing) are created and processed by message control records. The output records are stored in the NAST table.
Message control uses the condition technique. The conditions for creating an output message are stored in condition tables that have selection fields picked from a catalog of application fields/tables. To determine if an application document qualifies for output, search strategies are used through access sequences, output procedures, and requirements. Once a message qualifies for output, message control modules use the parameters set in the condition type or output type to determine the timing of transmission and the medium of the message. The output type also specifies the program or module to be invoked to create the output.
Message/output determinations are concepts applicable not only to EDI and ALE, but also to other output mediums.
~~Guduri

Regulating Message Type (E or W) through Message control

Dear All,
I have a requirement. The message that is been generated programmatically should be controlled at user level as Error or Warning message. I have got a suggestion that this can be controlled through message control.
But I have no idea on Message control and how I can link that to my program.
Please can anyone put some light into the matter.
Thanks & Regards,
Atanu

hi,
message control is one of the methods in ale, through which u can pass data between diff clients.
if u want to generate messages in ur program based on user thn u hav to giv authorizations based on user in program itself.
reward if hlpful.

ALE-Message Control

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