Are fault messages applicable to synchronous messages also?

Hi Experts,
I have been trying to understand FAULT messages in XI.
The blogs I have seen so far discuss FAULT messages in Asynchronous scenarios only.
This makes we wonder if it cannot be used for Synchronous RFC scenarios.
Can somebody confirm this?
Thanks
Gopal

Fault messages can be used for Synchronous scenarios also.
To do a self-check create a Synchronous Message/ Service Interface....you will observe that the Fault message type section gets enabled.
For reference: http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/weblogs;jsessionid=(J2EE3414700)ID1964483350DB02509562514351735296End?blog=/pub/wlg/2759
Regards,
Abhishek.

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I have two synchronous messages coming with almost zero delay in it. Both the messages contains the same data which is causing a major problem in the backend.
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>
SUNIL SINGH wrote:
> I want to avoid the processing of duplicate message. My scenario is HTTP to SOAP (sync)...
even if the data is comming with some delay between them. how will you check that is duplicate message or not unless you use lookup or BPM in it to compare two independent messages at runtime.
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check in the source system whats causing their application to generate duplicate messages in first place and send it to PI.
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Mark,
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As successfully processed synchronous messages cannot be archived in PI and I have gone through the various documents and threads(mentioned below) in SDN which also confirm this point.
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