Aspect ratio and exporting help, PLEASE!

I've been given a project that was shot on DVCPro HD tapes. The footage was already loaded onto a drive for me. When I bring the clips into FCP, they are 1920x1080 and appear squished in the viewer and canvas. If I click "anamorphic" in the sequence settings, the footage no longer looks stretched.
Great. Now, I need to export the footage to QTs that are a random 620x349, and the client doesn't want the images letterboxed or with bars on the side... they'd prefer that I just crop the images to that aspect ratio. It's for the web.
How can I do this? Everytime I export, I'm getting bars on the sides or a squished image. Thanks for your advice!

That's DEFINITELY not DVCPro HD settings are you SURE they match the clips? AND 1920x1080 is NOT anamorphic.
Also, how are you getting letterbox? Your sequence settings are 16:9 - not letterboxed.
Patrick

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HDV Aspect Ratio and Exporting For the Web

INTRODUCTION
I am trying to export an HDV video for the first time and have managed to confuse myself. I want to upload it to blip.tv and they transcoded videos into Flash with 4:3 aspect ratio. But more than that, I want to understand how this all works so I don't have to guess about the settings that will give me what I want.
BACKGROUND DATA
4/3 is 1.333...
16/9 is 1.777...
1440/1080 is 1.333... (if the pixels are square)
1920/1080 is 1.777... (if the pixels are square)
In FCP my clip format says:
Frame Size: 1440 x 1080
Pixel Aspect: HD (1440 x 1080) (Does this mean the pixels are 1.333... times wider than it is high?)
EXPORT USING QUICKTIME CONVERSION
When I go to export this clip using Quicktime Conversion under the Options... Size... dialog and look at the Dimensions dropdown, (I assume this is the dimensions of the exported video. Is that correct?)
Some of the settings are (the settings are in quotes, my notes are in parentheses.):
"HD 1440 x 1080 16:9" (if pixels are square this is 4/3)
"HD 1920 X 1080 16:9" (if pixels are square this is 16/9)
So both of these settings claim to be 16:9 but they both can't be true unless they have different pixel aspect ratios (which I find hard to believe). This makes me think I don't really know what they mean when they notate something as 16:9. Can anyone give a definition that will help me here?
EXPORTING FOR THE WEB
Using FCS2, what settings should I use to export this clip undistorted for the web (with letterbox if needed)?
Thanks for the help,
Rob:-]

What I find with HDV 16x9 1440x1080 footage, is that when you output for the web you have to hard code the size you want the result to be. 320x180 or 640x360 for example scale things nicely. If you want bigger, just do the math.
I don't know why but whenever I select a predefined output size, it always screws it up (I don't work with 4:3 ever, so I'm speaking only of 16x9). So I always enter the size I want.
And as far as Compressor 3, I really can't get that to set the size I want correctly either. Mostly its due to me being lazy and not wanting to spend a year reading the Compressor manual. A package that should basically have the easiest interface known to man is now so complicated that unless I have to hand-holding tutorial, or get to drag/drop one of their presets, I end up screwing things up with it. Not to mention that you get to wait for hours just to see how you screwed up the settings of your output.

Sequence settings and export help please

It's been awhile since I've made a movie for dvd, and the last time was in PAL, so my settings are changed.
Now I'm making an NTSC dvd (Best quality possible) for a local historical group, and can't remember the settings!!
Using FCP 5
A Canon Elura 80 videocam, not HD, just ordinary DV.
I captured the video in iMovie and imported into FCP
Created 2 movies: one 4:3, and one 16:9 (filmed it in this format)
1. What 'export movie' settings do I need? Should I export as a QT movie, use DV Stream, or ?
I want to use iDVD to make the dvd, and I'd like it the best quality possible
2. Also, my 'sequence presets' seem different. They're Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) 1280x720 30p 48 kHz. IS this what they should be?
(And I'm far from being a pro,, I just like to have better control than iMovie gives me; i'ld just like to set my settings and leave them for everything i do .... or at least know what they all mean so I can make a decision which to use
Thank you
Elizabeth

I captured the video in iMovie and imported into FCP
Bad step there ... you should capture in the NLE you plan to use for editing. FWIW, iMovie captures DV different than FCE or FCP. You my have lost so quality there, but it depends on which version of iMovie you used.
1. What 'export movie' settings do I need? Should I export as a QT movie, use DV Stream, or ?
File->Export->QuickTime Movie. Do NOT recompress all frames, but do include chapter markers (if needed). You can make the movie self-contained or not. Drop the resulting file into iDVD.
2. Also, my 'sequence presets' seem different. They're Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) 1280x720 30p 48 kHz. IS this what they should be?
No, not if you shot and captured DV.
-DH

What is aspect ratio and how can you change it?

Please refer to my other post for more information on these photos. The photos I am referring to are the ones that appear blank in the edit screen.
When I try to export these photos to facebook using the exporter, it says that IPhoto can only deal with photos with an aspect ratio of 3:1 or lower, and that the photos selected have a greater aspect ratio. What is aspect ratio and if possible, how do you change it? This may be directly linked to my other problem with the same pics.

I'm having the same trouble. Zapplications will upload only 1920x1920 photos. With iPhoto I can't get past the automatic ratio of 1920x1440!!! There MUST be some way to customize photo size on iPhoto!! Please help!! I've tried cropping the photo to a square and still can't get past this ratio thing.

Import and export help

Ok here's the problem I have been using imovie 08 to import from a jvc gz155g hdd camcorder then exporting the finished product as a small movie with quicktime setting it to steaming-medium and the end result was fine but now I have switched to FCE and find that using the same way causes the quicktime movie to look squashed using the same settings as i did in imovie to export.
Is there any way I can export and get rid of this squashed look.
I have an intel mac, quicktime pro and the mpeg2 pluggin.
The camcorder records as SD and 720x576px.
it all works fine with imovie 08 but not FCE arggh

I suspect you are shooting 16:9 but haven't told us.
To stretch it out use QT Pro as detailed at the bottom of this article:-
http://www.fcpbook.com/Video9.html
OR follow these instructions:-
In FCE select File>Export>QT Movie. (Self-contained or not is your choice but it will have no effect on the quality).
Open this file in QT Player and select Window>Show Movie Properties.
Select Video Track>Visual Settings.
Deselect "Preserve Aspect Ratio" and change "Scaled Size" to 1024.
Click "Sound Track" or the Backspace key and the image will jump to 16:9.
Close the Properties window with the red button.
Do the same with the QT Player's video window and it will ask you if you want to save it. Click "Save".
Then put the file in iDVD etc.

Pixel Aspect Ratio and ciphering type of footage-CS6

CS6- updated 12\18\13 V-11.03
Hi All,
A few questions about:
Pixel Aspect Ratio and ciphering type of footage. Bare with me as I touch on two different aspects of what I feel are related:
1. Setting up a Comp-
Having AE decide on the correct footage being used- Via >Import footage,.(to Folder) then drag it on, or into the 'make comp icon' where AE is supposed to do a 'best guess' for the comp settings. Be it square pix or otherwise. What are the second value in brackets ? See pic
2. Interpolation-
When using two diff footage sources- If using two different source footages in a comp. Is this where I should interplolate my footage to match the existing footage and the comp settings (If I have choosen NOT to pre-comp that secondary footage?)
3. Seperating fields-
How come footage that a camera manufacturer claims to be shooting in Progressive 30 or 24p is showing up as interlaced in my comp's CP? The manual to the cam says 30p or 24p or 60i The footage was shot at 30p (for sure)
Here is a screen grab of AE's 'best guess' of that footage, showing it with an UPPER field render; indicative of HD Interlaced footage and then in the inerpolate settings - 'kinda confirming it.
Now for the way out- Render:
4. If that is in fact Interlaced and I then want to reduce the size of that 1920 footage to 66% size... Do I need to do anything in particular at this point?
For some reason I am getting an error on my end when trying to export as an AVI and reducing size to 1280
5. Is this from the Field render of interlaced challenge?
I ended up with a couple of errors and then aborted the whole file and re-imported to start over with this error. Which happend again after a redoux
So I sent it over to Prem Pro to export those MTS Files as a movie and noted AGAIN the reference to Interlaced video. "upper and lower" Prem Pro was able to use the same MTS files and export a working movie. (so those files were not corrupt BTW) Yet Note PP's output reference to that footage again as Interlaced would be...
Thanks for any clarity on those "5" questions... NC

Thanks for the details Rick.
Thanks for the insight on #1
Ref #2, You should never change the interpretation of Pixel aspect ratio on footage unless you know for a certainty that it is wrong. For example, open Photoshop or Illustrator and create a new document that is 720 X 480 pixels and AE will always interpret the image as rectangular pixels because that is a standard rectangular pixel frame size.
Unless you specifically created the image in Photoshop with rectangular pixels it is square pixels so the interpretation must be changed to avoid distortion.
--Did you mean to write:
Unless you specifically created the image in Photoshop with SQUARE pixels using a rectangle layout? I am not trying to bust your blz here, I am trying to understand the unknown. (for me)
So it may very well be AE mis-guessing the footage and the Upper first is a mistake on AE's part and I need to test it to find out? On that note...
Ref#3, Separating fields must be done right. Some 1080P footage is interpreted as having fields. This may be incorrect and if there is a question you MUST test the footage. Test the footage by making sure that the fields are being separated
How do I make sure the fields are being seperated? Does the window as in pic two from the top of my post confirm that or is there another test?
Then I do the following:
then selecting the footage in the project panel and choosing Create Composition from Selection, then opening the Composition settings, doubling the frame rate and stepping through the footage a frame at a time. If the footage is really interlaced then each of the frames will be different. (IE: 29.94 to 59.94fps) OK
If the field order is reversed then motion will be in the right direction then reverse, then go back to the right direction. ---I did not understand? Are you referring to Upper and Lower reverse? Direction, as in fwd and back in Time line? Sorry unlclear on my end...
Oh and HFR footage? HFR? High frame rate??
One last thing, Do all cameras shoot anamorphic, or could they as AE is showing my MTS files; are Square? (1.00) Pic #1
@Dave- You -
At 1080, a lot of footage is interlaced, and evidently your camera made interlaced footage
Me- How do you know? because of the 2nd pic and upper field first indication?
You-Even if you know for a fact that it was shot 30p, the camera captures the entire frame... but it records it as two fields. They give it a fancy name: Progressive Segmented Frame.
Me- Is this typical false advertisement of the sales divison of brands like not telling you what CMOS or CCD is in a cam just slapping HD 1080p on the side of the box?
You-AE will treat it as an entire frame if you interpret it as having a field order of None.
Me- Won't that be a problem mis leading AE on an interpret?
Thanks Gents for the precise details.
Best
NC

Aspect ratio and render line issue

When I overwrite the video from the source (top left) window to the timeline, it is changing the aspect ratio and a red 'render' line is appearing on the time line.
The video is now zoomed in and pixelated.
I have not had this issue while editing with my other files and the settings seem to be correct. Am I missing something super obvious?

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I shoot the Nikon D3, RAW (.NEF) and convert through ACR. Through ACR, the DPI is set to 300 DPI; the DPI caries over to Photoshop.
I crop in Photoshop using the crop tool (not marquee). To maintain 2:3 or 3:2 aspect ratios, the crop tool requires the width and height in inches or pixels. If specifying resolution, the document size will crop to that DPI, if not; the DPI is derived from pixel dimensions.
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It apears that you canot specify an aspect ratio via the crop tool without defining it in inches or cm. You can do it with the marquee tool but the marquee tool sucks for cropping. You can however crop in ACR with the crop tool by merely specifying the aspect ratio (not in inches or cm). In summary, the PS crop tool is based in inches or cm while the ACR crop tool is simply aspect ratio.
What I can do to crop in PS while maintaining aspect ratio and defined DPI. Is there a work-around, magic trick, or something else I can do to fool the PS crop tool into an aspect ratio not based in inches or cm?

Just to summarize:
Setting a dimensioned ratio (e.g., 2 in by 3 in for Width and Height) in the Crop tool without filling in a Resolution value yields a crop with the desired aspect ratio, and without any resampling.
There is no way to specify a ratio with the crop tool, specifically, as the OP has requested, though in a future version perhaps specifying simple numbers there without any units might be a way Adobe could facilitate this. It would be a nice addition and with little downside.
I guess what I don't understand, though, is why the OP cares about the "high" resulting dpi value? It's just a number.
Expanding on this, the Resolution is nothing but a metadata value that can be changed at will (e.g., through Image - Image Size... - uncheck Resample) at any time in the future. There is ALWAYS a Resolution value associated with the image, both before and after the crop (though the crop tool may end up changing it; so what?). In short, the Resolution is just an arbitrary figure until such time as the user wants to use the image for a purpose (e.g. printing).
Always think in terms of pixel dimensions (number of pixels horizontally and vertically) while editing, then think about dpi right before publishing. It's hard to go wrong this way.
-Noel

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I am currently working on a documentary and all the footage I was given are in different formats an resolutions. Some are in 720 x 480 others in much larger aspect ratios. Some are standard SD some are HD
is there any way to conform all of these together, or any tips? what about exporting? any help would be appreciated.
thanks

What's your final delivery format?
What I do, and I usually have some HDV to mix with DV is to put everything on a ProRes 422 sequence with the setting to the highest resolution I have to start with (usually HDV 1440x1080) but I don't let FCP automatically change the time line or covert anything until I do a render. Then I finally do a render all and FCP up rezzes stuff when it renders. I use very little of the DV stuff (it's a backup when I need something that the HDV cams didn't video the way I need, such as both HDV cams moving to a point of view at the same time).
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Black bars alongside video+squished aspect ratio on export

I'm trying to get my import/export settings right--I keep getting black bars and a squished or stretched image when my videos export. Since Elements doesn't read MOD I've been using miro to convert, which doesn't like to export to mp4 all that well to begin with (which furthers my diagnosis problems.) I don't know anything about video image->pixel size (nor can I find anything online that makes sense to me) and canon's website doesn't tell me what my camera is shooting in in those terms, but I've been using the widescreen format--what is that size?? I'm not sure if this problem is because of defaulting project settings on import (Elements not picking up on the proper format and defaulting to something else), an exporting problem (I've tried all the different settings under publish+share>computer>mpeg4 and quicktime>NTSC DVD standard and widescreen, as well as every other export option I can think of), or a conversion problem (why doesn't Elements accept MOD to begin with? Final Cut 7 does no problem!) Everything looks good in the editing process, plays fine etc.
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CAMERA:
canon FS200
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stockdizzle66
Thanks for the update.
Let us look into the following next, one problem down (the aspect ratio), next the quality of playback of your Timeline as seen in the Edit Mode Monitor.
1. Given that you are working with .mod widescreen 16:9.
a. Open a new Premiere Elements 11 Mac project. Go to File Menu/New/Project and set the project preset yourself in the new project dialog. You want NTSC DV Widescreen. Make sure that you have a check mark next to "Force Selected Project Setting on this Project" before you exit the new project dialog.
b. Once back in the Premiere Elements workspace, go to Add Media/Files and Folders and import your mod.widescreen into Project Assets.
c. Right click the .mod widescreen file in Project Assets, select Interpret Footage, and, in the Interpret Footage dialog, dot the Conform to: and set that to DV/DV NTSC Widescreen 16:9 (1.2121).
d. Drag your .mod widescreen to the Timeline from Project Assets. Do you see no colored line over the content, an orange line, or a green line? If an orange line, render the Timeline with the Render button or pressing the Enter Key of the computer main keyboard. Is the .mod widescreen now display the same, worse, or better than before we started all this?
Also, right click the monitor, select Playback Quality, and see if there is any difference in what you are seeing if you use Highest instead of Automatic as the set. Also check to see if Magnification there is "Fit" rather than other.
Is your video card driver up to date according to the web site of the manufacturer of the video card?
Please review the above and let us know the outcome.
Thanks.
ATR
Although conversion .mod widescreen to another format is always a consideration, it has not been found to be necessary in essentially most cases. Classically, if an import problem with this type of file, the renaming of the .mod file extension to .mpg prior to import took care that while Interpret Footage took care of the aspect ratio issue.
I just saw your note about MPEG Streamclip. That works great for Windows for conversion to DV AVI. Never tried it for a .mov export for Mac. But remember there is an option for 4:3 or 16:9 in that dialog (or there should be...I will take a look if you do not find it). So no distortion expected since MPEG Streamclip should be supplying that problematic 16:9 flag.

Aspect ratio when exporting to DVD

Newbie - forgive me but have been struggling with this one for days.
Have a project - 5 min film - in FCP X and really struggling to export it to DVD using the share command - it will copy fine but the original is in 1920 x 1080 and the DVD share option automatically selects to burn at 720 x 576. Inevitably the output is skewed and the altered ratio means that there is lost image around the edges.
I need to have this project outputted onto DVD.
I have tried exporting via the Blue Ray option and using the DVD disc option instead of the 'Hard Drive (Blu Ray)' option under Settings/Output Device but although this process seemed successful the DVD would not play on either a DVD player or Blu Ray Player.
Is there any way of exporting direct to DVD in 1920 x 1080 or similar locked aspect ratio (eg 1280 x 720 etc) or of altering the default output setting for DVD sharing?
I don't have compressor, I don't have DVD or Blu Ray burner software and surely FCP X can do this?
I have altered the format of the original file into various aspect ratios but irrespective, the output ratio is always the same incorrect ratio of 720 x 576.
In anticipation of your help, thank you and please keep your answers in plain language - am new to FCP X and macs!
Thank you
LizW

Taht's really puzzzling. Could you export a short section of your video as a Master File and open in QuickTime – and post a screen shot of the Movie Inspector Report?
Here are some screen shots of a 1080 PAL video. I have chosen a slide show with 3:2 images to emphasize the circle shape and the rectangle that extends to nearly the width of the frame.
I then export as Share>DVD. Note the 720X576 frame size bottom left.
Here, I have opened the VOB file after export in VLC (DVD PLayer will not support a screen shot).
As you can see the circle shape is not distorted (so the anamorphic data was read correctly). Nor is anything cropped in display – since the entire rectangle is shown and the width of the black bars is unchanged.
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