Asset Depreciation Key

Dear Gurus,
I am facing an issue with setting up a depreciation key.
The principle is the following / 15% / year - 1st year 7.5%
No NBV < 0
Period control // everything to be calculated 1st day of the year
I have tried to do something with multilevel method - but I think I am missing something.
Enclosed, screenshots...
Thank you all for your ideas and your help.

Hi,
Define multi level method for the dep.key as shown below.
Then the depreciation for the asset as shown below..
Regards,
Mukthar

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where we have to create depreciation key in asset accounting for as02 ?
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Saimedha

Hi,
Saimedha....
AS02 is for Asset change..........here you can change only dpercaition keys.......
You can define in AS93..........under Takeover values.
Also u can check the value at AS02 under Deperciation area at initial tab ..you can see there at Menu Bar..
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Ricky

Transfer assets from one asset class to another having different depreciation keys.

Hi Gurus,
     I am a noob in FICO, and I am facing a problem while transferring assets from one asset class to another.
Below is the scenario.
I created two assets 100000000000-0 under asset class 4690a and 200000000000-0 under asset class 4690b. And I am trying to transfer the
asset from class 4690b to 4690a by selecting the option ‘New Asset’ in the transaction ABUMN. While doing this, I am receiving an error message as below.
'Posting with trans. type 300 not possible (No acquisition posted).'
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Diagnosis:
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Procedure:
     Use a transaction type from a transactio type group, which can be used for the first acquisition to an asset.
The error is related to the transaction type which I hadn’t explicitly created anywhere. But, when checked in transaction AO76, the transaction type 300 belongs to the transaction type group 30. In this group I am not able to find any solution related to the error.
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1. What exactly the error message is related with?
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Please let me know if any further details are required regarding the scenario.

Hi ,
I understand that you want to transfer the old asset to new asset with different asset class with different depreciation keys and the old asset is not yet capitalized and does not have any Asset Values.
Assuming that since the First Asset is not yet capitalized, that seems to be that its just that ASset Master is created and no Asset Values appear in the Asset.(in other words no acquisition, capitalization, no dep. start etc.)..
Alternatively this asset can be advised to be blocked and flagged for deletion and create a new Asset in the new Asset Class and then capitalize the new asset by doing the acquisition according to the business process i.e. either via PO based process(GR) or Non PO based process.
The transfer of asset is required incase the old asset still have the values and you are transferring the old asset to new one with the left over values.
Also would request you to kindly share some screenshots of the AW01n of the old asset and screenshots of the AS03 to have more idea on it and provide a better solution to the same..
Warm Regards,
Vineet

Link-Group Asset Class, Depreciation Area & Depreciation Key

Dear Experts,
I am new to FI-AA Customization & have a basic query about Group Asset Concept.
I am working on Ecc 6.0 & for Country India.
I want to create Group Asset for calculation of Depreciation as per Income Tax Act. Hence there is just one Depreciation Area (for Group Assets) , but the Depreciation keys are different. E.d IN1, IN2 etc. (Country Version India)
Now the questions are :
1) Do we need to create different Asset Class for different Group Assets or to create just 1 Asset Class for all Group Assets.
E.g. I want to calculate Depreciation As per income Tax Act on Gross Block of Building, Furniture & Fixture, Motor Car, Vehicles etc. So I need to create separate Group Asset Class for each one of above or just to create one Group Asset Class.
2) If we need to create just one Asset Class for all Group Assets; how to maintain a Depreciation Key in OAYZ as there are more than 1 Depreciation Keys?
3) is there any other method / functionality to calculate Depreciation as per income Tax Act or Group Asset is the only functionality?
Thanks & Regards,
Reshma

Dear,
Reshma.
Looking at your Questions let us take explanation for Group Assets :-
1 ) We need to create new different asset class for Group Class in OAOA. Then permit the depreciation area for only Group Asset in OAYM as it is in your current scenario India is Depreciation Area 15 Just select your company code in OAYM and check the Grp Asset field for respective area 15. Then go to OAAX here we have to maintain the assets classes particularly for Group Assets. So check your Group Asset classes for Group Assets. Cerate different Group asset classes for your said requirement.
In these depreciation areas, it is then possible to make an assignment to a group asset. You make this assignment in the specifications for the depreciation area in the asset master record. When you post an acquisition to this kind of asset, the system duplicates the line items from this depreciation area on the given group asset.
2 ) According to me you have to create different depreciation keys for Group Asset classes. Assign the Depreciation keys to your newly created Group Asset Classes in OAYZ and make sure you are deactivating 01 area which is Book Depreciation area.
3 ) As far as I know this is the only functionality available to handle Group Assets. How ever SAP does not have any standard Group Assets functionality. SAP does not supply asset classes to be used solely for group assets. It is we have to determine as per varying Business Process.
I hope this will clear your doubt makes you to understand. Please revert back for further clarification. Welcome you.
Regards,
Pankaj A Bhalerao.
Edited by: pankaj_ab on Feb 3, 2010 8:26 AM

After AFAB, I've changed depreciation key for an asset from 20% to 0%

Hi All,
I've posted depreciation (AFAB) for periods from 01 to 04 (Depreciation Area 20).
Later I've changed the depreciation key for an asset from 20% to 0%.
In my test SAP allows me to update depreciation data only in the period 05 (for previous data).
Is there the way to repete the depreciation posted in the periods from 01 to 04!
Cluo d anyone help me??
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Rossi,
Since you have already posted the depreciation for the periods 01 to 04, the system assumes that there are no postings pending for those periods and hence shows the recalculated depreciation in period 05. But you can do the repeat depreciation run using AFAB transaction code. You can try them for period 04 and the entire depreciation posted till 04 will get charged in Period 04 itself.
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Vinod

After 2 years want to change depreciation key for a asset

Hi,
For a particular asset we want to change depreciation key for this asset already we have posted depreciation for 2 years. After 2 years user realizes they are using wrong depreciation key now they want to change depreciation key for a particular asset. In new financial year till now they have not posted depreciation .I just want to now what is the impact of this changes how we will adjust the value in future because previously they are calculating depreciation 1.63% now they want to calculate depreciation 3.33 % can any one tell me about the future impact of asset.
How we will adjust the value?
Thanks and Regards,
Neha

Hi,
Does your user wants to post the depreciation for closed Fiscal years?
If yes First calculate unplanned depreciation for the difference up to the last closed fiscal year and post in the current year.
Now after posting this then change the depreciation key in the asset master and in the next run the system identifies the difference between posted value with the old Key and teh correct key and adjusts the difference in the current period depreciation run.
If the user don't want to post the values of the previous years, change the key in asset master so that the difference in the depreciation from the start of the fiscal year is adjusted in the current period.
Future impact if the option is second the asset life will be more when compared to the actual life. In first case there is no effect.
Provide Business with these two solutions and they have to choose between the options.
Reward points if useful.
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Reverse Asset Depreciation for Closed FY

Hi Asset Gurus...
Need your expert advice...on the following Asset issue....
PROBLEM : We have done the Year end closing for FY 2009 for our assets in Jan 2010. But we have already reported out Balance sheet in Dec 2009 for FY 2009. Now, when we have closed the FY 2009 in Jan 2010, system postes some financial entries related to Depreciation difference between area 01 and area 02 on the balance sheet.
Now the business thinks its not acceptable..as what we see in SAP for the BS 2009 contradicts what we have already reported to the authorities..
So, we need to change this situation in SAP...i.e. correct these postings ( or infact cancel these postings that have happened due to this depreciation difference between area 01 and area 02 in the Fy 2009 ) so that the BS 2009 shown in SAP would match what we have reported.
Now the real problem is that : THE ASSET FISCAL YEAR IS ALREADY CLOSED AND ALSO WE CANNOT MANUALLY POST ANY FI ENTRIES FOR THESE DEPRECIATION DIFFERENCE GL ACCOUNTS AS THEY CAN BE POSTED ONLY INTERNALLY.
SOLUTION THOUGH OF : Now, We see that probable solution would be re run the Depreciation for FY 2009 again by opening period 12 2009 so that the depreciation differences calculated wrongly would be gone.( But is this kind of suggested or acceptable ).
In the Other case, should we do an ASSET WRITE UP OR TRANSFER POSTINGS to negate the postings that have already happened.
One more thing..I want to clarify is that : THE REASON THE DEPRECIATION DIFFERENCES OCCURRED BETWEEN AREA 01 and AREA 02 is because both of them had a different depreciation key in FY 2009( somehow they had diff. dep keys which was wrong as told to us by the business and they discoverd this situation in 2010 ). So, we corrected the Dep keys for the two areas in FY 2010 ....But for the FY 2009 , when we closed the FY 2009, the depreciation differences already got posted in the Balance Sheet.
REAL PROBLEM IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CORRECT THE DEPRECIAITION KEYS IN THE ASSETS, but WE WANT TO CORRECT THE WRONG POSTINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN FY 2009 ( i mean the Financial postings that took place.. the GL accounts that got posted are Acc. depreciation difference account and dep. difference account ).
We also cannot manually reverse this FI entry , as these postings happeend automatically..
So i see..probable solution is reopen the FY 2009 and carry out a repeat dep run ??
Or do a ASSET WRITE UP OR TRANSFER POSTNGS FOR THESE GL ACCCOUNTS?
I am not an expert myself but seek the guidance of the experts here to resolve our issue..
In case, you need any more clarification on this problem..I will let you know the same...
Waiting for your feedback on the same..
Thanks,
Kris.....

There is no issue with FY 2010 as we have changed the Dep. Key in 2010.
The issue is with only FY 2009 which is now closed.
But the transaction ABF1 as you have mentioned cannot be used in this case, as when we try to post to these GL accounts, it gives us the message that they can only be posted automatically by the system ( which i think is true as these postings occur only after the dep. run ).
Is there any other tcode through which we can correct the wrong dep. values that were posted in FY 2009.
Thanks,
Kris...

How to get Depreciation key independant from Depreciation area

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We are using two depreciation areas 01 book depreciation and 15 Tax, in our asset class we have put for both the same depreciation key (GD50) but with a different uselife for every depreciation area
Now when we create a new asset (AS01) intially the correct uselife appears ( tab depreciation area) but apparently when i want to change the one for depreciation area 01 its also changed in depreciation area 15 - how can we avoid that 15 is 'linked' to 01?
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Dear janbritt
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Setup one depreciation key

Hi Gurus,
I have a scenario as below:
1) Define one depreciation key that allow user to specify any of the useful life during asset master data creation
2) Based of the useful life entered in the asset master data help to calculate planned/posted depreciation automatically
Instead of define all the posibility depreciation key, may I know if there is any flexible way that I could setup to cater for above scenario?
Pls advise and guide with sample example.
Thanks & regards,
Loi

Loi,
1) Define one depreciation key that allow user to specify any of the useful life during asset master data creation
    - During the creation of Asset Master data, you have the option to manually input the asset's useful life
    - If you want SAP uatomatically derive the useful life base on the asset class, you can maintain in in tcode OAYZ
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      Layout
2) Based of the useful life entered in the asset master data help to calculate planned/posted depreciation automatically
     - the planned depreciation will be automatically calculated base on the depreciation key (straight line/declining balance) also useful life is a factor
     - Base on the planned depreciation, actual depreciation will be posted to the asset when you execute "Depreciation Run" program tcode AFABN.
Instead of define all the posibility depreciation key, may I know if there is any flexible way that I could setup to cater for above scenario?
If you have existing depreciation key that will satisfy your depreciation calculation requirement, no need to create new one.
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Jhero

Depreciation key issue

Hi Gurus,
we have 100 assets,at the time of creation of asset master data,every time we have to give the depreciation key manually or is there any additional settings we have to do.
regards
jana

Hi!
Kindly read F1 help on field XDAILY in the customizing of the
depreciation key for an explanation :
The "depreciation to the day" function becomes active for an asset as
soon as the asset has a corresponding depreciation key and the asset is
capitalized (posted to). Once this takes place, it is no longer possible
to switch off this function for the asset, even if you change the
depreciation key. On the other hand, it is not possible to activate this
function for an asset after it has already been capitalized using a
different depreciation key.
Please consider also note 1036569 in case the error is not justified
according to the above information. However, from your attachment I
gather that you are trying to change depreciation key in ara 01,
hence note 1036569 may not be the solution either.
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Hi,
could any one can help me to explain how this depreciation works for this asset below?
Depr Key : LINK
Base method : 007
Declining Method : 001
Multilevel Method : 003
(This calculation method derived from SAP Standard)
Useful Life : 5 years
Exp Useful life : 15 years 1 month
ord depr start date 01.12.1991
until jan 2007 , NBV =0
on Feb 10, 2007 => good issue= 42.750.000
ord depr arise 10.830.000
on Feb 24, 2005 => credit memo in acq year = 42.750.000
ord depr arise only 8.550.000
Differences between ord dep on Feb 10 and ord depr on Feb 24 causes error like this :
"Transaction in area 01 contradicts the net book value rule "

Hi,
I have seen base method of same depreciation key, in which below mentioned field values have been defined :
Type of depreciation : Ord. Depreciation
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Dep. below NB Value zero : No
Curb : No
From abovewhich field, system is bringing WDV as depreciation method into calculation?
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Hi,
I have seen base method of same depreciation key, in which below mentioned field values have been defined :
Type of depreciation : Ord. Depreciation
Dep. Method : Stated Percentage
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Dep. below NB Value zero : No
Curb : No
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I encounter the following problem, please input some advices.
An asset from legacy system needed to be migrated into SAP.
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My question is how to handle the changed of rate in SAP during migration? As the lump sum depreciation figures in old system in higher than 14% per year which calculated in SAP, SAP would calculate an adjustment figure and post in coming period during depreciation.
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