Setup one depreciation key

Hi Gurus,
I have a scenario as below:
1) Define one depreciation key that allow user to specify any of the useful life during asset master data creation
2) Based of the useful life entered in the asset master data help to calculate planned/posted depreciation automatically
Instead of define all the posibility depreciation key, may I know if there is any flexible way that I could setup to cater for above scenario?
Pls advise and guide with sample example.
Thanks & regards,
Loi

Loi,
1) Define one depreciation key that allow user to specify any of the useful life during asset master data creation
    - During the creation of Asset Master data, you have the option to manually input the asset's useful life
    - If you want SAP uatomatically derive the useful life base on the asset class, you can maintain in in tcode OAYZ
      Chart of Depreciation
      Asset Class
      Depreciation Area
      Deprciation Key
      Useful life
      Period
      Layout
2) Based of the useful life entered in the asset master data help to calculate planned/posted depreciation automatically
     - the planned depreciation will be automatically calculated base on the depreciation key (straight line/declining balance) also useful life is a factor
     - Base on the planned depreciation, actual depreciation will be posted to the asset when you execute "Depreciation Run" program tcode AFABN.
Instead of define all the posibility depreciation key, may I know if there is any flexible way that I could setup to cater for above scenario?
If you have existing depreciation key that will satisfy your depreciation calculation requirement, no need to create new one.
Thanks!
Jhero

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Hi Sri
I dont think depreciation can be deactivated again once activated.
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Hi Gurus,
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Hi ,
I understand that you want to transfer the old asset to new asset with different asset class with different depreciation keys and the old asset is not yet capitalized and does not have any Asset Values.
Assuming that since the First Asset is not yet capitalized, that seems to be that its just that ASset Master is created and no Asset Values appear in the Asset.(in other words no acquisition, capitalization, no dep. start etc.)..
Alternatively this asset can be advised to be blocked and flagged for deletion and create a new Asset in the new Asset Class and then capitalize the new asset by doing the acquisition according to the business process i.e. either via PO based process(GR) or Non PO based process.
The transfer of asset is required incase the old asset still have the values and you are transferring the old asset to new one with the left over values.
Also would request you to kindly share some screenshots of the AW01n of the old asset and screenshots of the AS03 to have more idea on it and provide a better solution to the same..
Warm Regards,
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Dear janbritt
Unflag your Dpr Area in OABD.
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Data is not saved.
Procedure
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Dear,
Sapfrido.
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Link-Group Asset Class, Depreciation Area & Depreciation Key

Dear Experts,
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Reshma.
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Emergency request***********
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Hi,
Does your user wants to post the depreciation for closed Fiscal years?
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Now after posting this then change the depreciation key in the asset master and in the next run the system identifies the difference between posted value with the old Key and teh correct key and adjusts the difference in the current period depreciation run.
If the user don't want to post the values of the previous years, change the key in asset master so that the difference in the depreciation from the start of the fiscal year is adjusted in the current period.
Future impact if the option is second the asset life will be more when compared to the actual life. In first case there is no effect.
Provide Business with these two solutions and they have to choose between the options.
Reward points if useful.
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Error occurs while changing Depreciation key

hi,experts
I changed the depreciation key to MANU and did some Manual Depreciation. now I want to change the depreciation key back and let it do automatic depreciation But while I was doing that via AS02, an error occured
*E 633 Manual depreciation not allowed with depreciation key ***.
Can you please provide some help if you can.
thanks a lot.

Hi Experts.
I have the similar isue .
I changed the depreciation key to MANU and did some Manual Depreciation. now I want to change the depreciation key back and let it do automatic depreciation But while I was doing that via AS02, an error occured
*E 633 Manual depreciation not allowed with depreciation key ***.
Can some one provide advice on this please .
Thanks
Ravi.

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[Urgent]Depreciation key

Dear all,
I need your help urgently.
Please give me any advice for this issue.
I would like to create a new depreciation key for the following case.
Currently, we are using a asset
1) fist acquisition date (2007,10.1), Useful year(4 years) , value 10,000$
2) Second acquisition date (2011.09.30), change useful year(4y -> 8y) , value 10,000$
3) Depreciation key : class straight-line base method(0011), decl-bal method(001), prd cont(11/11/11/11), multilev(001)
4) Depreciation What I want
YEAR 1st ACQ
2007Y 417 (10,000$/4y/12m*2)
2008Y 2,500 (10,000$/4y)
2009Y 2,500 (10,000$/4y)
2010Y 2,500 (10,000$/4y)
2011Y 1,875 (10,000$/4y/12m*9)
YEAR 2nd ACQ
2011Y 638 ((208$ (NBV for 1st ACQ) + 10,000$) / 4Y / 12m*3))
2012Y 2552 ((208$ (NBV for 1st ACQ) + 10,000$) / 4Y)
2013Y 2552 ((208$ (NBV for 1st ACQ) + 10,000$) / 4Y)
2014Y 2552 ((208$ (NBV for 1st ACQ) + 10,000$) / 4Y)
2015Y 1914
I will give you all reward as much as I can.
Thank you very much for your assistance in advance
Best regards,

acquire the asset first
now your book value becomes equal to the new aquired asset + book value of the previous asset ok?
now see
AFAMS for every year maintain a percentage and enter per year . calculate the % of depreciation you want in year and enter value.ok? maintain for every year.
maintain base value book vaue i.e 24
now go to base method configuration screen
for 0011 base method change the method to p stated percentage
ok?
now afama
base method 0011
dec balnc method 001
prd control 001
multilevel method: one defined by you
class :straight line
goto as02
give dep key
chage life to 8
run afar to recalculate dep
and run dep and check in test run
test it and give feed backs
regards
rohit
Edited by: ROHITBALI on Nov 22, 2011 2:04 PM

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This much work i have already done, but still not sure if this is what my requirement says:
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Create a Depreciation Key

Hello Gurus,
I have the following scenario -
An asset bought in 1999 has a useful life of 20 years and an initial value (amount) of 1000 euros. In 2009, its depreciation starts and the accumulated depreciation SHOULD be equal to 500 ( straight line depreciation i.e. ( 1000-(1000*10/20) ) ). This means that the value of the asset after these 10 years should be 500 euros.
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Any suggestions?
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Did you solve the dep. prolem ? I am having the same problem.
I am trying to partialy transfer a FA from his current class to another one with a different life time (from 30 to 12 years ) using the ABUMN.
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