Asset retirement (Depreciation by day)

Hello,
My client want Depreciation by day for Plant & Machinery Asset class.
While retiring an asset they calculate the depreciation till previous month. for eg. if they want to retire an asset on 20th Feb, they will calculate the depreciation on the asset till 31st Jan.
But, if depreciation by day is used in the depreciation key then the system would calculate the depreciation for 20 days of Feb also(as depreciation by day will override the period control).
The client want depreciation till 31st Jan, the 20 days of depreciation for Feb is not required by them.
Is it possible...Kindly help...
Regards,
WNR

Hi,
If you hav chosen Dep to the Day tick in your Dep Key - Then this would be the system behaviour...
What you are wanting is combination of both - i.e. Dep to the day in the case of Acquisition , but depreciation till last month in the case of retirement.. This is not possible...
you should check with your business as to what should be the treatment in the case of Acq / Transfer / Retirements... Based on that, You should untick the "Dep to the Day" and choose the relevant period control and make relevant assignment in OAVH for your period control
With the present settings i.e. "Dep to the Day" switched ON, what Bernhard said is the only choice... you should choose Asset value Date as the end of previous month+1... This would stop the dep calculation as of Last day of the previous month
br, Ajay M

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Nice to know the issue has been resolved.
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Hi Nilesh
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Asset Retirement (Legacy assets) high priority

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Dear Friends,
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Diagnosis
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I am posing Asset retirement by using the transaction code F-92
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Hi Nilesh
Nice to know the issue has been resolved.
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u2022 You use period control rules you defined yourself.
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