Asset under construction Accounting determination

Hi dear friends,
What accouts shoul I use in accounting determiation for assets under construction? Here should I inform them in OA90? Are Balance account or P&L account?
Brazilian legislation just allow its depreciation after its conclusion however we need to post values in a special area in order to receive some benefits from gevernment (to credit taxes).
Thank you a lot!!!!!
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Edited by: Naej on May 7, 2010 1:49 AM
Edited by: Naej on May 7, 2010 2:13 AM
Edited by: Naej on May 7, 2010 2:15 AM

Please have look at the SAP Note 7595 and check your settings against it.
Besides, all the account assignment need to be maintained in AO90 for all assets class (including AUC)

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Issue with Asset under construction account

Hi all, I hope you can provide some assistance.
We have a situation where:
Asset created FY09
Internal order created and assigned to settle to the asset. FY09
Goods Received. FY09
Internal order Settled FY09
Asset disabled FY09
Goods Receipt Reversed FY10.
Settlement re-run FY10 as part of normal EOP processing. (Order was not clsd)
Settlement document Reversed when mistake was realised.
The AUC GL account is now out of balance as settlement cannot occur fully on the closed asset. The posting rules for the AUC account mean that you cannot post directly to AUC account.
Any suggestions or a transaction to synchronise the GL account for AUC with another P&L account would be appreciated.
Thanks Doug

Hi there, thanks for your feed back. We didn't want to reactivate the asset due to issues with depreciation etc. So what we did was create a new asset and assign it to the internal order with a new settlement rule. Then re- receipted goods inwards, settled and it all balanced correctly.

Accounting object to Asset under construction?

Please,
Question: Is it necessary to set an accounting object (ACSET) to asset under construction?
(I think we should define an internal order)
Thank you

hi Naej ,
For Auc Assets Account assignment object is not required to create.
Because when purchase any goods and Services automatically system captures profit center through document splitting.
For eX : Service Entry with internal order. Internal order may contain CC or PC.
If internal order contains CC or PC system derives
ExP             a/c DR              10000
                To              GR/IR              acccount           10000
Aftter that we are settling EXp from Order to AUC
AUC     account            dr        10000
         to        ExP        account        10000
System derives cost center / profit center from IO   to AUC.
Main Asset settlement :
Main Asset           DR         10000
         to     AUC accont          10000
Because of these reasons AUC is not Requried CO Assignment objects.

Asset Under Construction Settlement - transaction types 340 & 345

Hi all,
My understanding is that
a) If an Asset Under Construction (AUC) item is settled completely through transaction AIBU, then transaction type 345 is used to credit the AUC GL Account in asset accounting document
b) If an AUC item pertaining to previous fiscal year is settled completely through transaction AIBU in current fiscal year, then transaction type 340 is used to credit the AUC GL Account in asset accounting document
Please confirm if my understanding is correct.
Also, please clarify, which is the program or configuration which proposes transaction type 340 or 345 for AUC settlement accounting document. I understand that transaction type 340 or 345 can't be entered manually & they are automatically determined by the system at the time of settlement
of AUC through transaction AIBU.

Hello
The transaction types posted with AIBU are defined in the IMG:
Financial Accounting > Asset Accounting > Transactions > Intercompany Asset Transfers > Automatic Intercompany Asset Transfers > Define Transfer Variants
Transfer variant used in this case is number 6.
They are also used for settlement purposes. And it is really important their definition regarding dependant areas. As the revaluation area.
It is recommended that transfer variants 4, 5 and 6 do have as transfer method 4. You can check this information in the following SAP notes 300273 and 327088.
Regards
Javier Reviriego

Settlement of WBS element down payments to an asset under constructions

The down payment (of the transactions tcode F-47 and tcode F-110), are
always settlement wbs element (tcode CJ88), we do not want to post down
payments to the receiving asset under construction (transaction type
180 or 181).
In the down payments are always taken into account in the settlement to
an asset. The settlement of the down payment is the actual reason for
the previous update of down payments in FI (Transaction type group
15). Furthermore, the settlement of down payments to assets should
not be capitalize.

When you search on this forum try to put Date range "ALL" to get more results. Please read below threads and you will get the solution.
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Transaction in area 01 contradicts the NBV
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Error in dep run - Asset under construction

Hi!
Could someone please help me with the following:
My customer has a large amount of assets under construction (AuC) and also other assets. None of the assets under consctruction should have a depreciation key (or depreciation key 0000) and no depreciation accounts are allocated in transaction AO93 for AuC . But my customer now has incorrectly created a few AuC (that should NOT be depreciated at all) with depreciation key LINK. What happened?
1) Test run depreciation (AFAB) for all assets in period 1 during 2010. In test run no error log was created, everything looked fine.
2) Executed depreciation in background.
3) When looking at each of the assets in transaction AW01N I can see that all assets (both real assets and AuC with depreciation key) has depreciation posted in period 1. BUT, no depreciation has been posted in general ledger on any of the asset classes!
4) I have now changed the depreciation key on all AUC in AS02 to 0000 so that no depreciation will be calculated.
5) Trying to run AFAB again for period 2 but error message says that period 1 was terminated and that period 1 should be restarted.
6) Trying to run period 1 again in AFAB with restart but error message says "Account 'Acc.dep. accnt.for ordinary depreciation' could not be found for area 01" and refering to all of the incorrect AuC that I have corrected (to no depreciation key)
Please how can I go on? I want to reverse the depreciation in period 1 since I didn't get any posting i the general ledger. And then I want to make a new depreciation run only with correct assets (only depreciation on real assets, not on AuC).
Please help!
I am very thankful for any help!
Many many thanks in advance!
with regards,
Prabhakar

Hi,
I had the similar situation couple of months back. I followed below mentioned process and it worked out well.
1) Maintain GL account for depreciation in AO90
2) restart depreciation run for the relevant period
3) change the depreciation key to 0000
4) repeat depreciation run for the same period (It will post a reverse entry in the same month itself. So the net impact of depreciation in the same month is zero).
By the way I have a suggestion to prevent this issue in future.
You may not be able to detect this issue on test run if you execute on foreground mode because the test run execution is restricted to 1000 assets. If the error is on 1001th asset, you will not know.
Hence, always execute depreciation test run on background mode, check for any errors and execute production run only if there are no errors.
Hope this helps....
Best Regards,
Madhu

Error in depreciation run - assets under construction

Hi!
Could someone please help me with the following:
My customer has a large amount of assets under construction (AuC) and also other assets. None of the assets under consctruction should have a depreciation key (or depreciation key 0000) and no depreciation accounts are allocated in transaction AO93 for AuC . But my customer now has incorrectly created a few AuC (that should NOT be depreciated at all) with depreciation key LINK. What happened?
1) Test run depreciation (AFAB) for all assets in period 1 during 2010. In test run no error log was created, everything looked fine.
2) Executed depreciation in background.
3) When looking at each of the assets in transaction AW01N I can see that all assets (both real assets and AuC with depreciation key) has depreciation posted in period 1. BUT, no depreciation has been posted in general ledger on any of the asset classes!
4) I have now changed the depreciation key on all AUC in AS02 to 0000 so that no depreciation will be calculated.
5) Trying to run AFAB again for period 2 but error message says that period 1 was terminated and that period 1 should be restarted.
6) Trying to run period 1 again in AFAB with restart but error message says "Account 'Acc.dep. accnt.for ordinary depreciation' could not be found for area 01" and refering to all of the incorrect AuC that I have corrected (to no depreciation key)
Please how can I go on? I want to reverse the depreciation in period 1 since I didn't get any posting i the general ledger. And then I want to make a new depreciation run only with correct assets (only depreciation on real assets, not on AuC).
Please help!
I am very thankful for any help!
Many many thanks in advance!

Hi, Can you please how the issue is solved because i have the same problem which i need to resolve immediately. Please reply me as soon as possible
with regards,
Prabhakar

Capitalize borrowing costs to asset under construction u2013 IAS23

Dear experts,
According to IAS 23 we are required to calculate interest on capital invested in an asset under construction.
Borrowing costs that are directly attributable to the acquisition, construction or production of a qualifying asset form part of the cost of that asset. Where funds are borrowed specifically, costs eligible for capitalization are the actual costs incurred less any income earned on the temporary investment of such borrowings. Where funds are part of a general pool, the eligible amount is determined by applying a capitalization rate to the expenditure on that asset. The capitalization rate will be the weighted average of the borrowing costs applicable to the general pool. The amount of borrowing costs that an entity capitalizes during a period shall not exceed the amount of borrowing costs it incurred during that period.
Detail scenario
The construction of a qualifying asset is controlled by an investment measures that are managed as projects - WBS elements and settled to an asset under construction periodically. The calculated interest shall update only the determine depreciation area set on the interest profile (OPIB).
The borrowing operations are managed by money market transaction on TRM (Prod. Category 550 Interest rate instrument).
Using the interest calculation function (CJZ2 - Individual Processing or CJZ1 - Collective Processing) we encountered several problems/ restrictions.
1 u2013 When funds are borrowed specifically to a qualifying asset for example, an interest rate instrument as a money market transaction on TRM should be capitalized according to the actual incurred borrowing cost and not by a capitalization rate. How to assign the value to the WBS element?
2 u2013 When funds are part of a general pool, although we can calculate and update the effective interest rate for each borrowing transaction (TMEZ) how to determine the weighted average capitalization rate by company code and define it on the Reference Interest Rates (OBAC) to be used in the interest calculation?
3 u2013 Even if the capitalization rate is defined and updated manually in the reference interest rate for the interest calculation, how to limit the amount of borrowing costs that will be capitalized during the period? The calculated interest in period shall not exceed the amount of borrowing costs it incurred during that period.
Is there any other functionality to support interest calculation and capitalization of borrowing costs to asset under construction according to IAS23 requirements?
Please advice.

Hi,
The interest rates for capitalization and for appropriation can be collected in separate cost centers and apportioned to WBS . If you incur interests at the group level,then using accrual apportion the relevant portion to the respective C/Codes.
For arriving the weighted average i assume you take the planned interest.For restricting the planned to the actual ones use the " Budget Manager" functionality,give the actual value,set zero tolerance.This will help restricting to the actuals.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Ramesh

WBS Elements and Asset Under Constructions have different Cost Centers

Hello Experts,
We have created a WBS element in one of the projects.
As per standard process, when we create the WBS Element the Asset under construction is also getting created through the settlement rule within the WBS.
These assets should have the same Cost Center as the WBS has. However we are in a situation wherein the Cost Center in the asset under construction is different than the Cost Center in the WBS.
I have checked the settings like automatic account assignment, etc but all settings look correct.
Can you please explain first what could be the reason for such a difference between Cost Centers in WBS and AuC's and what is the solution to avoid it in future?
Thanks in advance
Leena

Thanks for your replies...
@ Alex - There is no Investment Programme ID maintained for this WBS in question since there is no IM for this project.
@ Abdul - Please elaborate more on Validation and Substitution.
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Leena.

Asset Under Constructions - Settlement

Dear Gurus,
I am trying to do an Asset Under Construction - Settlement using T.Code AIBU, when i click on proceed, it gives me an error:
SYST: You cannot determine the period for rule 02 to 12/31/07
Message no. AA613
Diagnosis
The system could not determine depreciation periods on 12/31/07 for period control 02 of calculation key 0000.
What to do
Maintain the allocation of the periods for the period control you entered.
Proceed
If the period control you entered is a standard period control, you can set up the allocation of periods automatically.
Procecd
Could you guide me through this...
Thanks in advance for your help.
regards,
Raj

Hi,
Please check
Note 357375 - Settlement: AA613 for AuC intracompany transfer
There are two possibilities how to solve this problem:
a. Define period control 02 with Transactions OA84 or OAVH.
b. If you work with self-defined period controls, you can enter another period control instead of 02 in depreciation key 0000.
Rgds.

Down Payment Posting in Assets Under Construction

Hi
In case of AuC, when we post the down payment, the standard Accounting entry created is:
Vendor Advance A/c Dr
Asset Under Construction (Down Payment) Dr
     To Bank A/c
     To Asset Clearing A/c
When we Post the invoice , the A/c entry passed is
Asset under Construction A/c Dr
      To vendor A/c Cr
When we clear the down payment against the invoice
Vendor A/c Dr
Asset Clearing A/c Dr
     To Vendor Advance A/c
     To Asset under Construction (Down Payment)
My issue is:
1. Why the Asset account should be involved for making down payments? At the time of down payments, the accounting entry that should be passed by the system showuld be
Vendor A/c Dr
    To Bank A/c
2. What happens in the case of year end activities? Why does system create two entries for current assets?
regards
Sanil Bhandari

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Settlement from internal order to asset under construction

HI All,
I have allocated some labors hours cost from production cost centers to real order which is created for allocating the internal cost to asset under construction.
when i allocate the labor hours by using the "KB21N" it has used the secondary cost element that is "Internal activity allocation" cost element "1200002".
i have given the source cost element "1200002" which is created as "internal activity allocation" and in settlement cost elements folder i have given receiving category is "FXA" and selected by cost element check box. i selected required entry field in settlement profile and assigned in order type.
when i do the settlement to asset under construction from internal order it is showing bellow errow.
"Settlement by cost element not possible due to secondary cost element
Message no. KD553
Diagnosis
You want to settle the secondary cost element 1200002 by cost element to an asset or G/L account, which is not allowed.
Procedure
Extend your allocation structure R3, so that secondary cost elements are not settled by cost element, but with a settlement cost element."
please let me know the problem and where i did mistake. give me the solution
thanks in advance
Mr.Rao

HI,
in your allocation structure R3 you entered in the view "Settlement cost element" that settlement receiver categoy FXA receives values "by cost element". This is only possible for primary cost elements. For internal activities do not tick "by cost element" but use a settlement cost element with cost element category "22".
best regards, Christian

Down payments request for Asset Under Construction

Hello Expert
while Down Payment request to vendors - for Asset Under Construction, system showing error.
Contact your system administrator (table error)
Message no. AA866
Diagnosis
No account has been entered for posting down payments in area 01 under the account assignment key IN95 (chart of accounts YAIN).
Procedure
Enter the account using the Customizing menu.
Pls Reply frinds.
regards,
Riten patel

Dear:
First check in OAYB that have AUC class been specified for down payments and then go to transaction AO90 and maintain the GL account for depreciation are 01 under the Balance Sheet account in the field Acquisition: Down Payment. It will resolve your issue.
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Down payments for Asset Under Construction

Hi Experts,
Urgent!
My client paying advances to vendors, thru TC-F-48.
Previously there is no PO requirement ,now asper client requirement I put PO fild as requirement in posting key 29.
1)There is no problem for payment to vendors -for Raw materials.
2)while paying advance to vendors - for Asset Under Construction, system showing error.
*Error is:
Contact your system administrator (table error)
Message no. AA866
Diagnosis
No account has been entered for posting down payments in area 01 under the account assignment key 4800 (chart of accounts FTL).
Procedure
Enter the account using the Customizing menu.
Pls Reply frinds.
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vinod

Hi Vinod,
I hope that you are following Valuated goods receipt concept.
Valuated goods receipt: Asset will be debited at the time of goods receipt
Non valuated good receipt: Asset will be debited at the time of invoice receipt
If you follow valuated goods receipt concept, then at the time of making down payment, AUC should not be debited (whatever the value date/ capitalization date be). Please refer SAP note number 310368 (valuated goods receipt paragraph) for reference. In that they have clearly mentioned the steps to make down payment against asset under construction Purchase Order without debiting to AUC and without any error message. You have to make F5 378 message number from error message to warning message and in posting key 29 and 39, you have to supress the asset related fields. If you have done the above settings, then system will not show any error message to update G/L account in AO90 transaction code for the Acquisition: down payments and Down payment clearing - 2nd and 4th field or for AUC related fields.
Hope this helps. Assign points if useful.
Regards
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Asset under construction

Hi Guru,
I want to know about how the internal order is the linked to asset under construction?

Hi
First, your internal order should have a investment profile attached to it. This determines the AuC asset class.
Next, when you release your internal order, SAP asks to create a AuC in the sub-sequent screen. Meaning, release status requires AuC.
Hope this helps. Otherwise, let me know your question.

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