ASYNC - BPM - SYNC
Hi,
I am trying to send a SELECT message to a JDBC adapter.
SEND
mode: SYNCHRONOUS
Synchronous Interface: mis_select
Request Message: select_req
ResponseMessage: select_res
mis_select is a Synchronous Abstract Inteface
select_req -> mi_select_req is a asynchronous abstract interface
select_res -> mi_select_res is a asynchronous abstract interface
When I try to activate my integration process I get the following error:
Message to be sent select_req and synchronous interface mis_select are not of the same type.
And the same for the response mesage.
I have looked at the message types in both interfaces and they are the same type as the synchronous interface.
Anyone knows what this error is about ?
Hi Hans,
I have a similar JDBC receiver step in one of my ccBPMs.
I think there's a possibility that your Synchronous Abstract Interface is defined backwards. i.e. The request is the response and the response is the request.
From what I see, the "Output message" (in sync.Abs.Interface properties) should be the select (called <b>request message</b> in BPM step properties) and the "Input message" should be the response (called <b>response message</b> in BPM step properties).
Best Regards,
Ofer
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In BPM sync/async Step , can you have different message schema?
Scenario:
File to XI to BPM to SOAP to RFC
In order to trigger the webservice , I use a dummy file which will be polled at a certain frequency- once in 30 minutes in Test mode - this will call the Webservice. The answer of webservice is sent to RFC Async.
so these are the Repository objects I created :
1. File Outbound Async Message Interface- Output Message (File_Request_MT)
2.File Abstract Message Interface-Output Message (File_Request_MT)
3.Async/ sync bridge Abstract interface to call the Webservice
4 Webservice Inbound Sync Message interface- with both input and output message
5.RFC Inbound Async message interface- input message (RFC_Request)
6 RFC Abstract Async Message interface-input message (RFC_Request)
BPM
a) Receive step which uses the the object 2.
b) Sync send which uses object 3
c) Send step which uses Object 5
I am using a BPM to Receive the file data/ "request " by using the File abstract message interface
Then use the the object 3 to call the webservice in BPM .
My question is on this step
Can I have for the abstract Interface(Object 3) the Request message as File_Request_MT and
response message as (RFC_Request) ?
I use a message mapping to map Input and Ouput message of Object 3 with Object 4.
Thanks for your insightRaj,
Thanks for the feedback , but I have a question regarding your reply
Interface Objects
Object 1: File_Request_Abs
Object 2: Soap_Response_Abs
Object 3:Soap_Abs_Synch
Output Message:File_Request_Abs
Input Message:Soap_Response_Abs
Object 4:Rfc_Request_Abs
The question is about
a)SOAP_RESPONSE_ABS : could you please tell me why do we need an abstract interface -SOAP_RESPONSE_ABS?
I created a message type MT_SOAP_RESPONSE and used that in the BPM sync Send step as the Input message.
b)Soap_Abs_Synch- I am using message types
MT_File_request and MT_SOAP_Response From your reponse, it looks like you are suggesting to use
Abstract Interfaces as Output message and Input Message, am I correct? Could you please tell me whether this has advantages over using message types MT_file_request and MT_soap_reponse? I haven't used Abstract interfaces before as Input message and output message; infact, I wasn't even aware that it can be. Please confirm that it is possible. Thank you for increasing my knowledge !!!
These are the Objects I created
Message Type :
a) MT_Filerequest
b) MT_SOAPresponse
Message Interface
a)MI_Filerequest_out_async -
Output message
Mess. type MT_filerequst
b)MI_filerequest_async_abs-
Mess. type MT_filerequst
Used
i) used for BPM receiver step- container definition
ii) receiver determination
c)MI_webservice_sync_in - This is created from External definition
d)MI_webservice_sync_abs-
Input message - MT_soapresponse
Output message- MT_fierequest
Used:
i) used for BPM sync send step ,
ii)Interface mapping between MI_Webservice_sync_in and MI_webservice_sync_abs
iii)Container element-SOAP_response
e) MI_RFC_async_out
Input message
RFC_Request(This is imported from RFC definition)
g) MI_RFC_async_abs
Input message
RFC_Request(This is imported from RFC definition)
Mapping
Message mapping
i)Filerequest_TO_SOAPrequest
Source: MT_Filerequest
Target: SOAPrequest(Got from External definition)
ii)SOAPresponse_TO_BPM_response
Source : SOAPresponse(got from External definition)
Target : MT_SOAPresponse
Interface Mapping
i)IM_BPM_TO_SOAP
Source Interface : MI_webservice_sync_abs
Target :MI_webservice_sync_in
uses following message mapping
Request : filerequest_TO_SOAPrequest
Response:SOAPresponse_TO_BPM_response
BPM container element
i)Receiver_container TYPE MI_Filerequest_out_async
ii)SOAP Responsecontainer TYPE MI_webservice_sync_abs
iii)RFC_Request_container TYPE MI_RFC_async_abs
BPM flow
Receive---->Send Synch-->Transformation----->Send Asynch
Receive -
> receiver_container
Send Synch -
> receiver_container(Request Message), Soap_response_container(Response Message)
Transformation -
> Source(Soap_response_container), Target(RFC_request_container)
Send Asynch -
> RFC_request_container
Thanks for your help!!! -
Call sync BPM from Async BPM - issue
Hi,
Outline: I'm trying to call a synchronous BPM from an asynchronous BPM in a PI 7.0 SP 14 system.
When doing so i get the following error: Object CL_SWF_XI_MSG_BROKER method SEND_SYNCHRON cannot be executed.
Now this is an oldie when searching the forums for this error message. I do however fail to see a solution to the problem.
Note that the following notes (referred to in similar posts)
- 710445
- 718734
- 830803
are implemented since theese refer to older versions of PI.
My scenario is very simple at present since i've startet from scratch again after getting the error. So what i do is:
1) send async message to async BPM
2) async BPM receives request
3) async bpm transform request til sync_request.
4) async BPM calls synchronous BPM
5) sync BPM receives request and opens a async/sync bridge
6) sync BPM maps request to response
7) sync BPM sends response and closes async/sync bridge
8) async BPM reveices sync_response
9) async BPM sends sync_response to some application
Now step 8 i never succesfully executed. Instead the error earlier described is triggered.
For simplicity i use 1 and only 1 message type in all message interfaces. I have mapping between my synchronous interfaces outside of BPM.
The synchronus BPM is executed just fine. The only issue is getting the reponse back to the asynchronous BPM.
I am familiar with the following similar posts:
- Object CL_SWF_XI_MSG_BROKER method SEND_SYNCHRON cannot be executed
- Problem in posting the data in the syncronous mode
but find them to be of no use.
Hope someone can help.
Best Regards,
DanielDaniel Hans Engsig-Karup wrote:First you do not need any bridges if it is asyn/sync kind of a scenario in the second BPM. You need a bridge when the bpm has to wait with a sync call coming in and response in an async call. Essentially your BPMs (I donno why you need 2.. but let us go with 2)
>
>
> 1) send async message to async BPM
> 2) async BPM receives request
> 3) async bpm transform request til sync_request.
> 4) async BPM calls synchronous BPM
> 5) sync BPM receives request
(Remove this if you are calling a sync system here) and opens a async/sync bridge
> 6) sync BPM maps request to response
> 7) sync BPM sends response
Remove this and closes async/sync bridge
> 8) async BPM reveices sync_response
> 9) async BPM sends sync_response to some application
>
VJ -
ASYNC to SYNC scenario using BPM.
hi,
i have a async to sync scenario. i have a File sender->PI(BPM)->ECC and the response from ECC->PI->SOAP.
Here in PI, i am using BPM. The ECC side is a Synchronous BAPI. The response is sent to the SOAP receiver.
in BPM, can someone tell me how many transformation steps do i need i.e mappings. and how many abstract interfaces, synchronous interfaces, outbound interfaces, inbound interfaces?
also how many send,receive and transformation steps.
and in the configuration part,
how many receiver determinations, interface determinations do we need.
rgds,
mithunHi,
File sender->PI(BPM)->ECC and the response from ECC->PI->SOAP
Service interfaces
-> SI_OB for file (Request)
->SI_IB for Soap(ASy Response)
->SI_ABstract(ASy Request)
->SI_Abstract (Asy Response)
->Si_REq_RES_ABS(Syn)
->SI_ABS(ASY BAPI REQ)
->SI_ABS(ASY BAPI RES)
mappings
one for request mapping(file Req to BAPREQ) and one for response mapping(BAPI REs to RESponse mSg).
operation mappings-2, one for Req MApping ANd One for Res ponse mapping.
IP
reciv->transformation(REq)->Send(SYN/ASYN)->transformation(RES)->Send
ID:
3 reciver deteminations
one for file to IP
IP to ECC and IP to SOAP
3 interface determinations
1 sender agrement
2 reciver sgrements
one for IP to ECC
and IP to SOAPregards,
ganesh -
Doc on Async and Sync using BPM
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ThkxHi PS,
in your Integration Repository go to:
Software Component: SAP BASIS
Namespace: http://sap.com/xi/XI/System/Patterns
Process: BpmPatternSyncAsyncBridge
This is a very good example!
Regards Mario -
Hi,
I am doing Sync/Async BPM scenario.
-> Receive message and process and response back to the sender.
Sometimes it will correct correctly. Sometime the message will come and stay in XI and fails with error
<SAP:Error xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" SOAP:mustUnderstand="1">
<SAP:Category>XIServer</SAP:Category>
<SAP:Code area="INTERNAL">PL_TIMEOUT</SAP:Code>
<SAP:P1 />
<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
<SAP:AdditionalText />
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
<SAP:Stack>Timeout condition of pipeline reached</SAP:Stack>
<SAP:Retry>N</SAP:Retry>
</SAP:Error>
I observed that the messages will stay in transaction "SXMS_SAMON" . and will fail after sometime.
What might be the reason. ? what need to do to stop these kind of errors?
Thanks
Deepthi.Hi Praveen,
Webservice <--> XI -->BW .
BPM :
start ->Receive(Request)> Transformation(Responsemap)>Send(SendtoBW)->Send(Send Response) ---> stop.
Messages are getting struck in SMQ1 and SM58 at these three points.
1. Message comes and stays in SXMB_MONI in status "Log Version"
The messages are stuck in SMQ1 in READY status without doing any processing.
XBQO$PE_WS90100002 WORKFLOW_LOCAL_100 1 READY 26.02.2009
Once I push the queue by Activating/Unlocking, it will process.
2. when it is trying to send the message to R/3 (Backend system) it is waiting in SM58 with below entry.
WF-BATCH SWW_WI_EXECUTE_INTERNAL_RFC WORKFLOW_LOCAL_100 Transaction recorded
Manually I execute LUW to push it. Once I done the message will go to R/3 system and Response mapping also complete.
3. Again it is waiting at SM58 with below deatails while sending the response to sender.
PIAFUSER SWW_WI_COMP_EVENT_RECEIVE_IBF WORKFLOW_LOCAL_100 Transaction recorded
we are again manually execute LUW. Once we done the response message will go back to Sender.
Any Idea to solve this..?
Thanks
Deepthi -
I am trying to setup the sync/Async bridge.Scenario is below.
Receive (Open Sync/Async Bridge) --> Send Async > Receive Async> Send (Close sync/Async)
I am doing exactly those steps which is provided in Pattern.
Following are in the interfaces.
Sync Interface to post message to BPM (OutBound)
(This interface is exposed as WebService)
Abstract Sync Interface used by BPM.
Async Abstract Interface for Request Message used by Container.
Async Abstract Interface for Response Message used by Container.
Async Inbound Interface to receive message sent by BPM in Async Send Process.
Async Outbound Interface to send message to BPM by Async Receive.
All the configuration Sender agreement/receieve agreement/interface determination/Receive Determination looks fine.
On posting soap data I get the following exception.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<!-- Receiver Identification
-->
<SAP:Error xmlns:SAP="http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30" xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" SOAP:mustUnderstand="1">
<SAP:Category>XIServer</SAP:Category>
<SAP:Code area="RCVR_DETERMINATION">NO_RECEIVER_CASE_BE</SAP:Code>
<SAP:P1/>
<SAP:P2/>
<SAP:P3/>
<SAP:P4/>
<SAP:AdditionalText/>
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace=""/>
<SAP:Stack>No receiver could be determined</SAP:Stack>
<SAP:Retry>N</SAP:Retry>
</SAP:Error>
Any pointers will be great help!
Thanks,
SamirHi Samir
As you are trying Sync/Async BPM scenario and having a webservice as your sender,go through this link as it is quite similar to your scenario--
https://www.sdn.sap.com/sdn/weblogs.sdn?blog=/pub/wlg/1403 [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken] [original link is broken]
If you still face error then post it in forum.
Regards
Arpit Seth -
Sync/Async BPM scenario : Problem at Integration Process..!!
Hi All,
I am doing Sync/Async BPM scenario.
start ->Receive(Request)> Transformation(Responsemap)>Send(SendtoR/3)->Send(Send Response) ---> stop.
When Iam trying to Activate, Integration process giving errors as
Source parameter AA_Payment_Req | http://XXXXXXXXX.com/SAP_PI/DirectSales/Payment not set Target parameter AA_Payment_Response | http://XXXXXXX.com/SAP_PI/DirectSales/Payment not set
Warning: Container element Response is defined but is neither initialized nor used.
But I am using them in the BPM. The same kind of scenario is working for another interface which is already running in production. When I tried to check that interface it is showing only Warning message as Container element Response is defined but is neither initialized nor used.
I tried deleting and creating again and still it is showing the same error.
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DeepthiHi,
could you pls let me know how its solved, while i am trying the same i am also getting the same problem..
could you pls explain bit more on this.
Thanks,
Venkat. -
Hi Experts,
I am doing async JDBC to sync webservice scenario.
I did create async interface for JDBC and sync interface for webservice.
my scenario is i just want to see the response from webservice in XI for trouble shoot, i dont need to send the response message to database.
can anyone tell me how can we do it without using BPM (async to sync bridge).
Kind Regards,
kiranHi
Please go through below steps now
I have added the comments with same in bold font
Data Types: JDBC_DT,File_DT
Message Types: JDBC_MT,File_MT
Message Interfaces:
JDBC_OUT_MI(outbound,async),This should be Sync given MT_File as respo
File_MI(inbound,async), Dont use this
WS_IN_MI(inbound,sync,input=WS_req,output=WS_resp)
WS_resp_MI(outbound,async,WS_resp), -----No need of this
Message Mappings:
JDBC_WS_req_MM
(JDBC_OUT(JDBC_MT)------->WS_IN_MI(WS_req) ).
*Here WS_IN_MM msg. mapping should be used insted of*
*WS_IN_MI i.e message interface*
*WS_File_Res_MM*
(WS_Res(Source -- Ws_res) ---> File_MT)
Interface Mapping: JDBC_WS_req_IM(source=JDBC_OUT_MI,target=WS_IN_MI)
In IM you need to use the above one only
Here you have two tabs as Request & Response, Request will be normal as
it is JDBC_MT to WS_Req with proper mapping
*In Response use File_MT <--- Ws_RES with appropriate mapping *
For ID configuration refer below sample scenario,
It is File1 to RFC to File2- Just in your scenario it is JDBC>WS--->File2
So refer and do necessary changes
From SP 19 on XI 3.0 and SP 10 on PI 7.0, a File - RFC - File ( Asynch - Synch ) scenario can be done without a BPM.
Steps:
Integration Repository
The Integration Repository will be similar to any Synchronous Scenario ( say HTTP - RFC ) . 1 Outbound Synch message Interface and 1 Inbound Synch Message Interface.
Integration Directory
This is where a few differences lie, so let me take some time.
1. The Receiver Determination , Interface Determination will be the same as in HTTP - RFC synch scenario. Create the Sender File Adapter, Receiver RFC Adapter and Receiver File Adapter.
2. Sender Agreement will be for the Sender File Adapter. Sender Agreement uses the Synch Outbound Message Interface.
3. Receiver Agreement will be for the Receiver RFC adapter. Receievr Agreement will use the RFC as thge Inbound Message Interface.
4. We need to add a few modules in the Sender File Adapter.
Go to the Modules Tab of the Sender File Adater, and add the following modules in the same sequence,
Number - ModuleName - Type - ModuleKey
code1- AF_Modules/RequestResponseBean - Local Enterprise Bean - 1
2- CallSapAdapter-Local Enterprise Bean - 2
3-AF_Modules/ResponseOnewayBean-3[/code]
Parameters
ModuleKey - ParameterName - ParameterValue
code1 - passThrough - true
3-receiverChannel - Receiver File Adapter Name
3-receiverService - Receiver Business Service/ System[/code]
With this configuration, you can now handle the requirement without a BPM
This feature been already blogged for JMS Adapters in these blogs ,
Sync/Async communication in JMS adapter without BPM (SP19)
/people/venkataramanan.parameswaran/blog/2007/01/18/syncasync-communication-in-jms-adapter-without-bpm-sp19
Async/Sync Communication using JMS adapter without BPM (SP 19)
/people/sudheer.babu2/blog/2007/01/18/asyncsync-communication-using-jms-adapter-without-bpm-sp-19
Dynamic Configuration is also possible,and this as well as many other options are discussed in the How To guide - "How To Realize a sync-async and async-sync
bridge within the Adapter Framework" available on the Service Market Place.
For info on the Modules used here, look into these links,
Request Response Bean
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/45/20c210c20a0732e10000000a155369/content.htm
Response Oneway Bean
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/45/20cc5dc2180733e10000000a155369/content.htm
Hope this info helps,
Thanks
Swarup -
Guys,
In my BPM i have one sync rfc send.
For example:
BPM: async soap -> sync rfc -> async jdbc.
Where can i to see the payload from sync rfc response?
sxmb_moni - i dont found the payload.
communication channel monitoring - i too dont found the payload.
Then, where can i to see?hi,
I think your file not reach the xi.
If sender side you are using SOAP(HTTP protocal) you cant see the message in sender communication.
It will directly put the file into integration engine.using TCP gateway you will get the file which you passed.
Like bellow ,
HTTP protocal-TCPgw--XIserver.
*Reward Ponis If Helpful*
Regards,
Prakasu -
Idoc (async) - soap (sync) - file (async)
Hi.
I have a flow from idoc (async) to webservice (soap sync) and I want the response from soap to be written in file (async).
I want to do this without BPM and I have read some posts about using modules RequestResponseBean and ResponseOnewayBean.
Can someone help me with this step by step.
I have in ESR a OM that is async because of the outbound Idoc. Do I need a sync OM for the soap call and another async OM for the response to the file.
Where do I need to put the modules? In the SOAP receiver?
I know there are some threads that cover some of this but I couldn't find any that cover the whole of my issue step by step.
Regards,
HjorturYes doing async to sync is possible without bpm. YOu already got the design solution.
>Where do I need to put the modules? In the SOAP receiver?
Sender Channel. In your case you might not need channel for idoc but for this configuration you might need to create one. That is my guess.
In the module section sequence as follows
1) AF_Modules/RequestResponseBean Type: Local Enterprise Bean Module key 1
2) CallSapAdapter Type Local Enterprise Bean Module Key 2
3) AF_Modules/ResponseOnewayBean Type Local Enterprise Bean Module Key 3
Plus follow the link given by shabarish as reference. -
IDOC to Webservice to Email - Async to Sync Scenario
Dear Experts,
I have a scenario: IDOC to Webservice (Async to Sync)
The response from the webservice needs to be sent via email. So I have a Email channel added to the Business service (ECC).
I tried this with BPM, but it does not work complaining about multiple receivers in a sync receiver interface.
Anyone has done similar to the above?
1. Using BPM?
2. Without BPM?
Thank you.Thank you for the reply. This is what I have:
Repository:
1. Async ABS Interface for webservice request message
2. Sync ABS interface with webservice request message and response message
3. Async ABS interface for the reposnse message
5. Async IB interface for hte email message
4. Message mapping between IDOC and webservice request message
5. Message mapping between webservice response message and email message
6. 2 Interface mappings with the above mapping objects
7. Integration Process BPM with Receive step (Async w/s req), Sync send step (w/s req and respp) and Async send step (w/s response)
Directory:
1. Receiver agreement with BPM as sender and Webservice as receiver with SOAP receiver channel
2. Receiver agreement with BPM as sender and ECC as receiver with email receiver adapter
3. Interface determination for request mapping
4. Interface detrmination for response mapping
5. Receiver determination with ECC as sender and BPM as receiver
6. Receiver determaination with BPM as sender and Webservice as receiver
7. Receiver determination with Webservice as sender and ECC as receiver
is the above sufficient and right?
Thank you. -
Failed to determine receiver - Async to Sync communication
Hello,
I have a setup in which IDoc flows from R/3 to XI to destination through HTTP. Being Async to Sync a BPM is put in place. This flow runs fine.
We tried adding one more receiver to the existing setup. The sender is the same as in the above mentioned flow. The receiver determination is failing. A separate receiver determination was configured for the second flow. The error message is "NO_RECEIVER_CASE_BE". We checked the entire configuration settings. Everything appears fine. Why is the receiver determination failing ? None of the solutions existing provides an answer that works. Any clues ?
Early answers would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Warm Regards,
IS / SivaIn the same receiver determination, with no condition, just add an additional receiver. Create interface determination and receiver agreement for the corresponding receiver. Activate all objects and try again with your input.
Hope this works..
Regards,
Parvathy -
Can you explain steps in the Async and Sync scenarios JDBC to RFC.
Hi,
Can you explain some basic steps in the Async and Sync scenarios for sending data from JDBC to RFC.
Like,
The data is picked up from the database table through JDBC adapter.
It is passed on to SAP by calling the RFC. RFC gets executed
successfully. The status is returned by the RFC. The status needs to be
updated back into the SQL database table.
Is this a sync case or async case.
What si the diffrences in the sync and async scenarios in the above JDBC to RFC scenarios.
Sooryahi check the below link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5474f19e-0701-0010-4eaa-97c4f78dbf9b
JDBC Synchronous call using BPM
Data Types -
1) File Input
2) JDBC Req
3) JDBC Response
4) File Response of similar type of JDBC Response.. ( This you can avoid also..let it be for first time)
Message Types
4 for each data type
Message Interfaces
1) Async, Outbound, Interface, to receieve the file
2) Async, Inbound , Interface to send the file from XI
3) Async, Absract , Interface of type File message type to recieve the message in the BPM
4) Sync, Abstract Interface with Req message type as File Request, and Response Message type as a file Response
5) Sync , Inbound interface for JDBC with Input message type as a JDBC Request and Output Message type as a JDBC Response
Message Mapping:
1)Mapping between File Req to the JDBC req
2) JDBC Response to File Response
Interface mapping:
1) Sender Interface as a Sync,Abstract Interface created for the file type and target interface as Synchrnous JDBC interface.
Use corresponding mapping for Req and Resp..
note:reward points if solution found helpfull.....
regards
chandrakanth.k -
Async to Sync interfaces.
Hi all,
We have IDOC(Async) -> SOAP (Sync) -> Proxy(Aync) interface requirement.
Can anyone please suggest if it can be done without BPM?Hi AYURA,
Use request response bean and check the link for details.
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/XI/UsingRequestResponseBeanModuleinFILE+Adapter
Reagrds,
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