[Audigy 2 ZS] Mute without fadi

Because I couldn't find a post related to my question, I now try to make one myself.
My Question: Is it possible to deactivate or at least speed up the fade-out on my Audigy 2 ZS which appears when a source is muted? Perhaps by a registry tweak or changing some files in the installation directory?
The reason: My Tv-Pci-Card mutes the source (Auxiliary in this case) as I switch the channel. This happens to avoid strange noise like snaps or something like this. (Don't know exactly how to describe it in English)
Because the fade-out of the volume isn't fast enough I will hear now a loud crack/snap each time I switch the channel.
Unfortunately the TV-Software doesn't offer an option to solve this problem.
My Hardware: Audigy 2 ZS, WinXp Sp3, Winfast TV2000 Xp Expert. All drivers are the most recent version.
By the way I'm sorry for mistakes in the text, my english isn't the best...
Xenoxx

Dbr,
There should be no problems, the cards for the plat. and standard are the same. If it is a Platinum Pro that would be a bit different, but the standard platinum will give you not troubles. Just don't loose any of your cables in case you decide to use it later.
Jeremy

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Will Creative please save us some time and reveal specifications for the J header? I already know what most of the pins do.Message Edited by twistedemotions on 09-20-2005 2:50 PM

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