Audio waveform refreshes display slowly on timeline (PrPro CS6)

Is it just me.
I LOVE so many things about this new release. The one persistent, "always dealing with" issue I have is I have to wait for the audio waveform to refresh most times when I zoom in and out or even just scroll back and forth on the timeline. This is a huge slowdown/impediment issue for me.
1. This never happened in previous versions
2. This is not during indexing ... it's all the time
3. It happens even when no effects are applied
4. No, I do not have a slow workstation (CPU, mem, drives all optimal) ... remember, this never happend in previous versions
5. I have preview files/cache and project/source video on different hard drives
Anyone else experiencing this?

Harm Millaard wrote:
Since all their posts at the CreativeCow are completely lacking any useful information, it seems that OE (Operator Error) is the common denominator. OE in terms of using outdated drivers, lacking hardware, incorrect setup, background processes, improper configuration, and name all the other OE's one can think of.
There are many issues which are in CS6 and they are not Operator Error. My computer exceeds the minimum requirements of Premiere Pro and still have the same issue. On the other hand I have reinstalled several times but can't get Encore DVD menus, and also the title templates is buggy because I can't access the wedding templates. Supporting the application will not yield any further development to correct these issues. The bottom line was that CS6 was a rushed release since Adobe are giving themselves less time to develop the next version as compared to what they used to do. In less than 9 months they will be releasing 6.5 with fixes to all these issues and we will be forced to pay for the upgrade again becuase there will be no support for 6?? I think Harm get the upgrade for free so that you can continue to support Adobe, even if the software is messed up you will simply turn a blind eye. You should test this on an average system most users use not on your monster!!

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Here's an odd problem.
For one of the projects I'm working on the waveform for the audio tracks is missing. When I hit CommandOptionw to turn it on and off, when on there are only the x's you see as it's being built.
On one of the tracks, not both even though they are in stereo, there is a piece of the waveform.
I trashed all the waveform caches I can find (although I may have missed some, they set things up haphazardly) the waveform is never built.
Any ideas? Thanks!
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I would hazard a quess that you've pushed fcp system resources to the max. I've been working on syncing up some badly time-coded multicam shoots, using the waveforms to sync them up. On one pair of clips, 1.5 hours each, it took quite a while to draw the waveforms and then fcp was VERY sluggish until I turned them off. That's with 6 gigs of ram on a pretty speedy machine.

Slow waveform refresh time on timeline (PrPro CS CC & CC2014 & CC2014 8.1)

I LOVE so many things about this new release. The one persistent, "always dealing with" issue I have is I have to wait for the audio waveform to refresh most times when I zoom in and out or even just scroll back and forth on the timeline. This is a huge slowdown/impediment issue for me.
( i copy text from here : Audio waveform refreshes display slowly on timeline (PrPro CS6) ) <--no solution
example in video : adobe cc2014 - YouTube
In my workplace all my colleagues have a similar problem, and no solution!
Spec:
CPU: AMD 8350, Intel Core i7-4820K, Intel Core i5-4690K
Videocard: GeForce GTX 580, GeForce GTX760
RAM: 16Gb, 32Gb
HDD: SSD
OS : WIN7 and Win8 and Win8.1
and so on, I want to say that it's not because we forgot to install latest drivers, turn off bitcoin mining or similar, we work with premiere more than 8 years and this is Totally unacceptable!
so... what is real solution for this? New patch?
Sorry for bad english! Thanks!

Harm Millaard wrote:
Since all their posts at the CreativeCow are completely lacking any useful information, it seems that OE (Operator Error) is the common denominator. OE in terms of using outdated drivers, lacking hardware, incorrect setup, background processes, improper configuration, and name all the other OE's one can think of.
There are many issues which are in CS6 and they are not Operator Error. My computer exceeds the minimum requirements of Premiere Pro and still have the same issue. On the other hand I have reinstalled several times but can't get Encore DVD menus, and also the title templates is buggy because I can't access the wedding templates. Supporting the application will not yield any further development to correct these issues. The bottom line was that CS6 was a rushed release since Adobe are giving themselves less time to develop the next version as compared to what they used to do. In less than 9 months they will be releasing 6.5 with fixes to all these issues and we will be forced to pay for the upgrade again becuase there will be no support for 6?? I think Harm get the upgrade for free so that you can continue to support Adobe, even if the software is messed up you will simply turn a blind eye. You should test this on an average system most users use not on your monster!!

Can you 'zoom' the audio waveform in the timeline?

Unable to find a solution in the help or the FAQ, so I'll post my first question here :-)
I would like to vertically zoom into the audio waveform in the timeline. My situation is that I have a 24-bit audio mix of a classical concert with a fairly large dynamic range, i.e. very loud bits and very quiet bits in one single audio file. I don't see enough waveform detail in the quiet parts, even when I enlarge the track vertically. I haven't found an official way of zooming in, at least in the timeline. The audio-waveform-only display in the source monitor does offer a vertical zoom.
The official help only offers this:
"To see more volume detail when viewing an audio waveform in a Timeline panel, increase the track height."
Which seems to imply that 'zooming' in further to bring out the really quiet parts is not a feature.
I found a bit of a workaround, which is to adjust the clip gain -- the audio waveform changes accordingly. However I'd prefer not to be changing the audio volume every time I need a different vertical zoom on the waveform.
Thanks,
3p

While you can't zoom and the vertical adjustment is limited (which sucks because you can zoom in Audition)` there are still a few more options that might help increase the vertical size of the tracks window.
First, to adjust the vertical space of each track in the timeline place your selection tool over the line between the tracks over on the left side of the track where audio controls are and drag the track bottom up or down. You can also increase the workspace of the timeline by dragging it up using the same technique, or if you have another monitor put the timeline over there and make it much bigger.
Second, use the tilde key to expand the entire timeline window. It's the key to the left of #1 key at the top left. Hit it again to return. It will expand any window that is selected. I use this one to get a better look at the waveform. You can also drag the tracks to make them larger.
good luck!

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I have not been able to get audio waveforms to display in the Time Line in iMovie HD 6.0.4, under any circumstances.
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Waveforms are not there. Both areas are just gray
You mean that the two audio timelines below the video timeline are empty? That would be because you don't have any separate audio except what is contained in the video.
To get the full waveform etc you first have to extract the audio. Click on the clip in question, go to Advanced and click on Extract Audio. This will take a few moments.
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Long time forum-lurker, first time poster.
Here's the situation: The nighttime assistant editor created a sequence of B-roll clips for an editor. On both the editor's and the assistant editor's computer, the audio waveforms for these clips are not displaying correctly. Specifically, the symptoms (on both computers) are:
- Waveforms do not appear in timeline unless zoomed in to maximum or second-to-maximum zoom. When zoomed out farther than that, the "X"es appear.
- When viewing the clip in the viewer's audio tab, either by double-clicking the sequence clip or match-framing from the sequence, the waveforms do not appear at all until I zoom in to near maximum level. When zooming out after that, the remnants of the zoomed-in waveforms remain on the screen.
- The waveforms of other clips display correctly.
I have tried deleting the waveform cache on both computers, changing the location of the waveform cache and restarting, and deleting the preferences on the editor's computer. I have not tried recreating the sequence from the original clips because the daytime assistant editor has more sequences to create and needs to use her computer.
If anyone can help me, that would be great.
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Assistant Editor's Computer: eMac running Final Cut Pro 5.0.1 and Mac OS 10.4.something (I haven't gotten a chance to run software update).
Editor's Computer: Dual Processor Power Mac G5 running Final Cut Pro 5.0.4 and Mac OS 10.4.8.
Both computers are sharing the same media which is located on our SAN. The Editor's computer (along with two other G5-based editing systems) is connected via FibreChannel. The Assistant Editor's computer (along with a whole bunch of other computers) is connected through our server, which serves the SAN drives as network volumes. Assistant editors create sequences on the eMac and upload the project file to the server, where they are available for the editors to download.
Power Mac G5 and eMac Mac OS X (10.4) SAN: Xserve RAID, CommandSoft FibreJet (not Xsan). Server: Xserve (Intel model)

Don't know what's going on, but tell us the format of
the audio.
It's the audio track from a video clip. All video on this project is DV NTSC. The audio is 48.0 Khz, 16 bit, 2 mono channels.
Also, try copying
one audio clip to a local drive and see if the
problem persists.
Copied one of the offending clips onto the desktop. Dragged it into the project. Opened it in the viewer and hit the Audio tab. Whaddya know, the waveform appeared.
I cut a chunk of it into the sequence that is full of clips whose waveforms don't work and turned on "show audio waveforms". Waited for a long time and I still just got the Xes unless I zoomed in really close to the new sequence clip.
But then I cut a chunk of the newly copied clip into a brand new sequence, turned on audio waveforms in the timeline, and they showed up.
I don't know if any of this will help to solve my problem, but hopefully it will give someone an idea. I've got an editor who says he's used to editing from waveforms and needs the ability to see them. (Unfortunately, copying media to local drives is not a viable workaround. The media must stay on the SAN.)
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Hi all!
Please, excuse my -more than possible- nonnative spelling and grammatical errors beforehand.
For some days, I've been having this problem: the timeline of Premiere Pro CC won't display the audio waveform of the audios I use, no matter if it's music, video sound... It just shows a plain line, as if it was silence:
I wait till the project is fully charged and it never shows.
I'm used to synchronizing the camera audio with the clean audio using the waveform as guide, and even if it's not the only way, it the easiest for me.
I downloaded the latest version, hoping that this issue would be solved (or that whatever configuration I may have accidentally changed, would be reset), and the thing keeps happening. Maybe it's something simple, some option I couldn't find but it's there (I hope so!).
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Wow, a lot of responses overnight (the time difference showed!).
Thanks everyone! Problem solved! =) As expected, it was just an option I didn't knew about. In my case, in was shooternz who nailed it. I just went to the wrench Icon > show waveform (don't know exactly the name in English, I use Premiere in Spanish) and voilà... I feel dumb.. but happy it's solved nevertheless haha
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Message was edited by: Jeff Morgan1

First, make sure the track settings aren't too low. If the track height is too small the waveforms won't show. If that's OK then quit the application and trash the waveform cache. If you don't know where that is look in your FCE system settings. It'll be at the bottom of the first panel.

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The description is in the title: Premiere Pro CC Crashing when Scrolling Through Sequence in Timeline - Audio Waveform Goes Blank First.
Just started today, won't stop crashing now after a minute or two, and always does it when I scroll through the timeline of a sequence. The audio waveform goes blank first.
What is going on?
Date/Time:
2014-10-22 12:16:16.078 -0400
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.9.5 (13F34)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: E1BCDCD7-6284-3012-9151-FF85491060DA
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000011d74b000
VM Regions Near 0x11d74b000:
VM_ALLOCATE
000000011d748000-000000011d74b000 [   12K] rw-/rwx SM=PRV
--> STACK GUARD
000000011d74b000-000000011d74c000 [
4K] ---/rwx SM=NUL stack guard for thread 4
Stack
000000011d74c000-000000011d7ce000 [ 520K] rw-/rwx SM=COW thread 4
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

same problem of mine, as posted here:
Crash when scrolling the timeline
please find attached the crash report log, as requested.
Process:         Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014 [3770]
Path:            /Applications/Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014/Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014
Identifier:      com.adobe.AdobePremierePro
Version:         8.2.0 (8.2.0)
Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [225]
Responsible:     Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014 [3770]
User ID:         501
Date/Time:       2014-12-22 16:33:25.725 +0100
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.9.5 (13F34)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: DC744912-A135-A02B-C2D3-75C4CA421CDD
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000000011a46a000
VM Regions Near 0x11a46a000:
    VM_ALLOCATE            000000011a461000-000000011a46a000 [   36K] rw-/rwx SM=PRV
-->
    VM_ALLOCATE            000000011a46d000-000000011a46e000 [    4K] rw-/rwx SM=PRV
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000000011a46a000
VM Regions Near 0x11a46a000:
VM_ALLOCATE 000000011a461000-000000011a46a000 [   36K] rw-/rwx SM=PRV
-->
VM_ALLOCATE 000000011a46d000-000000011a46e000 [    4K] rw-/rwx SM=PRV
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1   com.adobe.HandlerTimeline.framework 0x000000010c1dc4f5 HandlerTimeline::AudioTrackContentView::DrawWaveform(UIF::DC&, ASL::ParamRect<int> const&, ASL::ParamRect<int> const&, ASL::InterfaceRef<BE::ITrackItem, BE::ITrackItem>, unsigned int, ASL::InterfaceRef<ASL::ASLUnknown, ASL::ASLUnknown>) + 2661
2   com.adobe.HandlerTimeline.framework 0x000000010c1dafb3 HandlerTimeline::AudioTrackContentView::DrawTrackItemWaveform(ASL::InterfaceRef<BE::ITrac kItem, BE::ITrackItem>, dvamediatypes::TickTime const&, int, ASL::InterfaceRef<ASL::ASLUnknown, ASL::ASLUnknown>) + 2131
3   com.adobe.HandlerTimeline.framework 0x000000010c2b447d HandlerTimeline::TimelineMediaIconManager::HandleWaveformNotification(int) + 429
4   com.adobe.HandlerTimeline.framework 0x000000010c2b53b0 HandlerTimeline::AsyncRequestNotifier::ListenToMessage(ASL::Message const&) + 176
5   com.adobe.ASLMessaging.framework 0x0000000100e1fb97 ASL::Broadcaster::BroadcastMessageInner(ASL::Broadcaster::ListenerRecord const&, ASL::Message const&) + 39
6   com.adobe.Frontend.framework   0x000000010006b039 FE::ApplicationErrorManager::ExecuteFunctionWithTopLevelExceptionHandler(boost::function0 <int>) + 41
7   com.adobe.ASLMessaging.framework 0x0000000100e1f71f ASL::Broadcaster::BroadcastMessage(ASL::Message const&) + 1695
8   com.adobe.ASLMessaging.framework 0x0000000100e25e9a ASL::StationUtils::BroadcastMessage(dvacore::utility::ImmutableString const&, ASL::Message const&) + 42
9   com.adobe.dvacore.framework   0x00000001003c763c boost::function0<void>::operator()() const + 28
10 com.adobe.dvacore.framework   0x00000001003c8f4c dvacore::threads::(anonymous namespace)::FunctionQueue::ExecuteOneFunction(boost::shared_ptr<dvacore::threads::(anonym ous namespace)::FunctionQueue>, bool) + 124
11 com.adobe.dvacore.framework   0x00000001003c9a4c boost::detail::function::void_function_obj_invoker0<boost::_bi::bind_t<bool, bool (*)(boost::shared_ptr<dvacore::threads::(anonymous namespace)::FunctionQueue>, bool), boost::_bi::list2<boost::_bi::value<boost::shared_ptr<dvacore::threads::(anonymous namespace)::FunctionQueue> >, boost::_bi::value<bool> > >, void>::invoke(boost::detail::function::function_buffer&) + 60
12 com.adobe.dvacore.framework   0x00000001003c763c boost::function0<void>::operator()() const + 28
13 com.adobe.dvacore.framework   0x00000001003c9b02 dvacore::threads::(anonymous namespace)::RunLoopAdaptor::Execute(__CFRunLoopTimer*, void*) + 18
14 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8b7ae3e4 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 20
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8b7adf1f __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 1151
16 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8b81f5aa __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 298
17 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8b7696a5 __CFRunLoopRun + 1525
18 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8b768e75 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 309
19 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff93049a0d RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 226
20 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff93049685 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 173
21 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff930495bc _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 65
22 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8e47924e _DPSNextEvent + 1434
23 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8e47889b -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 122
24 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8e46c99c -[NSApplication run] + 553
25 com.adobe.Frontend.framework   0x00000001000d302d FE::MacApplication::RunSelf() + 45
26 com.adobe.Frontend.framework   0x0000000100047e98 FE::Application::Run(std::basic_string<unsigned short, std::char_traits<unsigned short>, dvacore::utility::SmallBlockAllocator::STLAllocator<unsigned short> > const&) + 4328
27 com.adobe.Frontend.framework   0x00000001000d4944 FE::AppMain(ASL::ObjectPtr<ASL::Module, ASL::AtomicValue> const&, std::basic_string<unsigned short, std::char_traits<unsigned short>, dvacore::utility::SmallBlockAllocator::STLAllocator<unsigned short> > const&, int, void*) + 276
28 com.adobe.Frontend.framework   0x00000001000dbbe5 FE::Run(ASL::ObjectPtr<ASL::Module, ASL::AtomicValue> const&, std::basic_string<unsigned short, std::char_traits<unsigned short>, dvacore::utility::SmallBlockAllocator::STLAllocator<unsigned short> > const&, int) + 581
29 com.adobe.AdobePremierePro     0x00000001000018ac main + 508
30 com.adobe.AdobePremierePro     0x00000001000016a4 start + 52

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