Auto nat vs manual nat

Some how I have ended up with multiple network objects for the same network example
obj-192.168.1.0
obj-192.168.1.0-1
obj-192.168.1.0-2
All are for the same network but have different nat statements. When I look at my NAT statements I have a bunch of manual NAT and Network object NAT rules. I'm pretty confussed on the two. Should I just have one auto nat statement for each object? Then if I need another NAT statement for the same network make it a manual nat?

Would I be correct to presume you have updated/upgraded the ASA software from pre 8.3 to post 8.3 by letting the ASA convert the configuration by itself and not actual write the configurations yourself?
If that is true then it would seem to me that these configurations might be the 8.3 (and later) softwares way of doing Identity NAT between your local ASA interfaces. (Which can also be done with Twice NAT / Manual NAT)
I would for example guess that the following configuration
object network obj-172.16.0.0-05
subnet 172.16.0.0 255.254.0.0
nat (inside,TM) static 172.16.0.0
Before was this
static (inside,TM) 172.16.0.0 172.16.0.0 netmask 255.254.0.0
In the new software 8.3+ if you have local LAN and DMZ interfaces on the ASA which dont require NAT between them, you can simply leave out the NAT configurations. So if your purpose is to enable communication between local interfaces wihtout modifying the source or destination address then I would leave out all those NAT configurations.
In the very basic setups you only really need to perform NAT between the local and public interfaces. The new ASA software doesnt have any "nat-control" anymore. If there is no NAT rule for the traffic incoming to the ASA then the ASA will simply pass it along without NAT.
- Jouni

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    Need to know the reason behind this?
    Regards
    MAhesh

    Also as a little side note,
    There is also difference in the ordering of the NAT configurations depending on the Section
    Section 1 and Section 3 Manual NAT rules are always gone through in the order you see them in the actual CLI configuration. So you might have 2 completely working rules BUT if they are in the wrong order it might be that other one of them is never used
    Section 2 Auto NAT rules are processed in an order that you dont usually decide yourself. The ASA puts them in order according to how they were configured.
    So in a nutshell. You can manually set the order of the Manual NAT rules but Auto NAT rules are ordered automatically by the ASA itself.
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    - Jouni

  • Manual Nat (twice Nat) Answers

    There seems to be a large number of the subject queries in one form or another.  Having acquired an asa 5505 and using 8.43 firmware and the ADSM gui for router configuration it has not been an easy transition from other products.   I have come to understand embedded NAT objects for basic port forwarding but am at a loss on configuring twice nat or manual nat, not really ever dealing with it before, or in this manner.  
    What I would like to suggest to the experts and to those with the ability to give advice to document editers is to include far more ADSM web gui examples and discussion for manual nat.   The tools are all there - in the nat rules editing page,  the display of the rules pictorially and the packet flow at the bottom of the page (and finally thru packet tracing).   What is needed is more on the actual entries on the nat editing pages and the logic and explanation of those entries.   In this forum what I would like to see is when there are responses that they include both the CLI recommended entries b AND the associated adsm web gui pics.  With good documents for reading and examples in the forum, I think there should be much less confusion allowing more attention to some very complex scenarios.   I personally feel a bit embarrassed to be asking basic questions and appreciate the responses but with improvements in docs and forum answers the number of such questions should drop.  At the very least I and others like me will get better edumecated.    To be clear am not looking for the easy cookie cutter right answers, I am looking to understand CIsco packet routing through explanations of the web gui entries. In fact, I am learning far more by trying to understand the web gui vice simply copying and entering CLI commands.  In terms of documents, for example, there should be a very thorough explanation of the relationship between "Translated Addr:" in the first NAT editing page with "Destination Inteface" in the second Advanced page .
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    I have added the packet tracing jpegs for further context.  There is an UNNAT lookup entry (first trace block, out of view on the pic) a concept which is missing in the documentation I've read that needs to be added but it is illuminating in how the router handles traffic.   What is also interesting is the fourth jpeg which also shows the flow designation of a packet and its handling internally (new packet or one that is associated with an existing packet (previously identified and put in an appropriate table xlate etc)).

    Hi,
    I've personally always preferred using CLI over GUI. Probably comes due to the fact I started with old Cisco switches and routers.
    When I first used a Cisco PIX the switch from switches/routers was a bit hard. The configuration format in 6.x was totally different from the IOS. After I upgraded the first PIX to software 7.0 it was abit more familiar already. Interfaces were now configured like in the switches and routers. Also the permitting traffic through the device used access-lists.
    I was just beginning to handle all the different NAT setups (atleast the ones we run into) and then came 8.3 (and 8.4) which totally changed the NAT configuration format
    I still find myself configuring the NAT through CLI. I use the CLI because I like beeing able to see the whole device configuration without jumping from tab to tab and clicking drop down menus. I mostly use ASDM to edit existing configurations or something that might not be as familiar with. Though my goal usually is to learn to configure the same from the CLI after I've done it a couple of times from GUI interface.
    If you're only using ASDM GUI to configure the ASA, I suggest you go "Tools -> Preferences" and from there enable the option "Preview commands before sending them to the device" This will basicly show you all configurations that you are going to apply in the CLI format. I think this preview setting is off by default.
    EDIT2: One really helpfull thing is also the fact that you can get help for almost every configuration page on the ASDM GUI. I think theres almost always a direct "Help" button that opens information about the configuration page in question and clarifies all the options you have on the page. Again, as I haven't used much ASDM, I dont know if they clarify the things you are asking for.
    The first 2 pictures to my understanding illustrate the configuration of a port forwarding using the "outside" interfaces address.
    The first pictures Translated Address just refers that you are going to use the "outside" interfaces IP address (whatever it might be) to configure a NAT. The ASDM has a habit of giving names to IP addresses which can confuse you. The same line might as well contain an IP address in numeric format if you for example had a small public subnet at your disposal for NAT translations.
    The second pictures source/destination interface just basically tells you the interfaces between which the NAT is beeing performed. Either of these can also be specified as "any".
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    EXAMPLE 1
    The below configuration basicly tells the ASA that it will PAT all outbound (outside) traffic from the source networks defined in the object-group to the outside interface address. It also tells that the source interface can be any interface on the ASA.
    So basically if you keep adding interfaces to an ASA that need (Or networks behind them) default PAT translations when they use the Internet, you can just keep adding "network-object x.x.x.x y.y.y.y" statements with the new networks under the object-group and the ASA will do PAT for them. You wont have to configure any additional NAT statements.
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    The below configuration basically tells the ASA that the DMZ server will be visible to other hosts behind other ASA interface with the same NAT ip of "1.2.3.4". This could apply to situations where you want to access the DMZ server with the same public IP address from both the Internet and the LAN.
    This could help with situations where your LAN uses public DNS and that DNS points to the servers public IP address. With this NAT configuration even though you LAN hosts are connecting to a public IP address the device will still be accessible from the LAN since you're NATing the DMZ server towards all interfaces.
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    The UN-NAT section to my understanding just tells you  that a connection coming from outside to a NAT IP is basically forwarded to the actual lan host IP address and not the public IP the user was originally connecting to.
    To be honest I don't really know how to configure well with the ASDM as I usually just use the CLI. Because of that I'm sometimes at a loss on how to configure the most simple things because I've only done them on the CLI.
    Hope some of this was helpfull to you
    EDIT: Didn't realize I wrote so much
    - Jouni

  • Identifying Manual NAT in ASDM

    Hi Everyone,
    Below is the screenshot from Cisco LEarning Website for ASA  Practice test.
    Correct answer is Manual NAT polices .
    Need to  know what should i look for in ASDM  that will tell me it is Manual NAT?
    Regards
    MAhesh
    Message was edited by: mahesh parmar

    It is manual because the screenshot shows that there are no Network Object NAT rules. So the displayed NAT rule is of type #3 in the list below.
    In ASA 8.3 or later there are 3 types of NAT rules you can add:
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  • Example of Manual NAT to implement NAT exemption

    Hi Everyone,
    Below is from Cisco LEarning Network site
    Referring to the Cisco ASA NAT configuration  below
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    Regards
    MAhesh

    Hi Mahesh,
    Yes, the above configuration achieves a NAT0 type configuration in the new 8.3+ ASA softwares.
    In the 8.2 and older softwares we used an ACL to tell the ASA between which networks there should be no translation to the source address.
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    Now lets look at the above "nat" statement in all of its parts
    nat = Is the actual command which starts the NAT configuration whatever NAT you were configuring
    inside = Is the source interface for the NAT as its mentioned first
    outside = Is the destination interface for the NAT its mentioned second
    source = Simply specifies that the source parameters for this NAT configuration will follow
    static = Defines that were doing a Static type of NAT
    one = Defines the real source network
    one = Defines the mapped source network
    destination = Simply specifies that the destination parameters for this NAT configuration will follow
    static = Defines that the destination is static. It can only be static
    two = Defines the mapped destination network
    two = Defines the real destination network
    And the key things to notice from the configuration.
    Both source and destination real and mapped networks are the same. This means that the source network and destination network should stay unchanged. So in essence we are doing NAT0.
    When we add the "destination static " this automatically means that the NAT will only be applied when the destination of the traffic is this network. This naturally applies in the reverse direction since the rule is bidirectional.
    I am not really sure if I explained the above in the best way I could. Hope it makes any sense
    - Jouni

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