Autonumber paras across chapters

Hello,
I want to have a multi-chapter book, each chapter of which has standard numbered headings at various levels. So far, no problem.
In addition to this, I want to add a second set of numbers which run across the entire book and are independent of the other numbering system. Heading1 paras should be numbered sequentially (§1, §2, etc.) and other, lower level paras should be alphabetised (a, b, etc.) within that. I want these numbers to appear in mirrored margins.
(This is a standard system used in grammars in my field.)
Seems that the mirroring suggests I use side heads. But after that, I'm unsure what to do. Can I set up counters at the book rather than chapter level? Or do I have to do it all by hand once the book is finished?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
K

That would be the method you should use for the side head numbering, yes. This step controls the action of the counters -- whether they're incremented, restart, or contain a custom text message.
The counters are actually invoked by the paragraph tags, which also control the formatting and the way the counters are presented in the document. One thing that you should do when setting up numbering in your paragraph tags, that is often overlooked, is to specify a numbering stream. Frame has 57 streams that can be assigned to track different things. A particular stream is invoked by starting the autonumbering string with a letter and colon -- A: or a:, for instance -- and then the numbering counters. Some people might use c: or C: for chapters, H: for heads, or S: for a sidehead.
So two steps, with different purposes.
Art

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Anyway, I have probably answered my own question and the best way to renumber the questions in a test is to run the script again and create a new document using a new question order.
But any other ideas are welcome.
Thanks.

hi Brian
which version of InDesign you have ?
I have checked these steps on CS3 and CS4:
first I've set ON to option in preferences to preserve links when placing
then I've placed DOC file as AnchoredTF in new Story
then I've copied this AnchoredTF and pasted it on page, and then I've pasted it as another AnchoredTF - each time there was new lick created to the same DOC file
then I've set OFF to option in preferences to preserve links when placing
and even when I again copied and pasted this AnchoredTF with placed DOC file - it still add new link on Links palette
so maybe with InCopy stories there is next bug or next "feature" ...
[edit]
ok - I've checked InCopy file - after exporting TextFrame as InCopy Story
and it's like you've said - pasting on page - new link is created - pasting as Anchored - link isn't created ... no matter if option in preferences is set or not ...
verdict - we've found new bug
BUT ... if you link it again - by CTRL+D method - link is preserved even if option in preferences is set to off so you can have more than one InCopy Story placed as AnchoredTF in same parent Story ...
robin
www.adobescripts.co.uk

Separate table title autonumbering for two named table styles?

I believe this very same question whizzed by a few weeks ago but I'm having no luck searching for it.
I have two named table styles. I want the autonumbering for the table titles to be separate. More specifically, one will autonumber as "Table t", while the other will autonumber as "Example e".
I have redefined the autonumbering counter for the second of the two TableTitle para style, and if I apply that style while in that table's title, I get the new autonumbering. But I can't transmit (a) selectively update the Table Title style to this format to other tables in the chapter. By extension, I can't copy the wonderful new table format to other chapters in the book.
I next tried creating a new para style "ExampleTitle", then in the Table Designer trying Update All. Nope, other tables of type example do not receive the new title style.
This is fully-patched FM8. The document is structured but I don't (want to) care about that -- I simply need to get the two different named table styles
to autonumber sequentially.
This is probably pretty easy once I learn the "trick"...(?)
Cheers & thanks,
Riley

Arnis:
Thanks. For some reason I couldn't get my table to update, so I went through and manually create a second table title paragraph style, then manually applied that. (I also created a second x-ref format so that I could x-ref to "Example n:" without including the colon in the x-ref, but that's another story...)
So for now I've worked around the problem. After I get this document out I'll revisit the issue. (Why do I have a vague recollection that there's a known idiosyncracy where FM6+ table styles don't update properly...?)
Cheers & thanks 'gain,
Riley

Creating a par file

Hello All,
I am a newbie to SAP Netweaver platform. I am trying to create a webservice to be deployed to Enterprise Portal to be called from a .NET application. I have SAP NetWeaver Developer Studio and SAP NetWeaver 7.1 Composition Environment SP03 PAT0000 on my laptop.
I have used the Enterprise Portal Application perspective to create the project to create a portal application. I have written the code necessary ( not functional just to test) andI am trying to see how to deploy it toEnterprise Portal. Going thru the forums and docs I see the way to do this would be to generate a par file and deploy to the server. The common options I came across are to right click on the project and do "Quick Par Upload". The problem is that when I right click on the project in the studio I do not see this option. I am at a total loss at this point to figure out why.
The other option I saw was to do Right click on project and then do a export of type par. Again I do not see this option but only see SAP WAR and SAP EAR - nothing which says par.
Reading thru the forums I saw suggestions which says where I should go to Window->Preferences to set up J2EE servers. Again I do not see that option. IS there something obvious that I am missing?
Help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Sujith

Hi Sujith,
Please Check these,
To deploy a par file into potal you have to select "Export" option when u right click on the project
Your project should be in Enterprise Portal Perspective
to do this ,
Click on the icon with + symbol near by Package explorer
Select other -> choose EP -> hit OK
Now you can see the EP icon under the icon with + symbol. click that
Now you are in EP perspective
Follow these steps to upload par into portal:
Rightclick ur project -> Export ->Next -> Select ur project ->
configure server settings -> add
Give these details:
Alias: AnyName (Eg: DEV)
Host: ur portral server name (eg: mydevserver u can pick this from portal url path)
Port: portal sever port (ex:50000)
Login:portal user name
Description: (optional)
click ok and enter the password
Hit Enter.
Now ur par file uploaded into portal
Check:
You can check this in ur portal system admin --> support -> portal deployemenyt -> serch for tur project name
Regards,
Ramganesan K
Keane Inc

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