Availing 50% Capital Goods

Hi,
Cenvat on Hold :
Unable to avail credit 50% balance of previous years credit on capital goods.
Error message appears-Cenvat reconcile
How to go with this?
Will be rewarded.
Regards

Hi Santhosh,
When Capital On-Hold is taken for a year(for vendors) and selected a Vendor and when Transfer Credit is clicked,the error message appears.
Please find the exact erro message.
Cannot Reconcile : Crossed Return Date, please Reverse
Message no. 8I582
Regards

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It can be done in the standard system but it will require mnaul control over the credit to be availed in the subsequent year.
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My client is asking for 50% availament on VAT also in case of cpaital goods purcahse in additonal to normal CENVAT.
As per standard now, they can avail CENVAT 50%, but client is expecting same thing to be happen in case of VAT also.
how can we achive this?
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Unable to avail credit 50% balance of previous years credit on capital good

Dear All,
Cenvat on Hold :
Unable to avail credit 50% balance of previous years credit on capital goods.
When Capital On-Hold is taken for a year(for vendors) and selected a Vendor and when Transfer Credit is clicked,the error message appears.(TCode - J2I8)
Cannot Reconcile : Crossed Return Date, please Reverse
Message no. 8I582
Pls guide.......
Regards
Sachin

Hi,
The above error message looks to be a strange one in J2I8.
As per the above message, check whether there is any pending subcon-challans due for reversal using J1IFR transaction.
Also check whether you are getting subcon challans in J2I8.
Finally, check whether any SAP notes are available.
Thanks & Regards,

Availing full CENVAT Credit for Capital goods

Hi,
In our client, they want avail full cenvat credit for Capital goods in the present fiscal year itself. How can we do this in SAP? Plz. explain me.

Hi Pawan,
You cannot avail total 100% Credit on the CENVAT paid on capital purchase as per the goverment rules.
The puirpose of maintaining the goods as capital goods are that you are only eligible for 50% credit in the current fiscal year and remaining 50% Credit in next Fiscal Year. its nothing that we configured, it is standard functionality in the country version. The Excise Transaction Type CAPE which come in to play at the time of capital procurement.
1. If your Client Requirement is to take 100% Credit for this material, then ask them to maintain Chater ID for this Material in J1ID as RAW materail. and During Excise Auditing period your client has to give relevent explaination to Excise Authority.
2. If your client has maintained in J1ID as capital , you can take the Remaining 50% Credit in current fiscal year also using J2I8, Before using this transaction verified from Excise Authority.
Or else As per my knowledge you cannt take 100% excise credit for Capital goods.
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50% credit on capital goods for previous year is not availed

Dear All,
The go-live date for my client was 01.10.2009. Now, in Apr, 2010 when the client is trying to get the 50% credit on Capital Goods (t. Code j2i8), system is not generating any data of the previous year. (From Oct, 09 to Mar'10). However, if we see the GL Balace for 'Cenvat On Hold A/c' as on 31.03.2010, it shows a balance of Rs. 2.50 lakhs approximately.
Can you please tell me why system is not showing any details through j2i8 for previous year?
Thanks & Regards,
Reshma

Hello,
The settings before 01.04.2010 were same. However, after thorough checking of the GL A/cs, I have following observations -
1) Plant 1 - Balance as on 31.03.2010 in Cenvat on Hold A/c -Rs. 195080. It is upload balance & t.code used is FBVB
    There are some more transctions in this A/c which are reversed due to wrong entries.
    Balance in Excise Duty RG 23 C as on 31.03.2010 - NIL
2) Plant 2 - Balance in Cenvat on Hold A/c as on 31.03.2010 is Rs. 166701. Again this is an upload balance with FBVB
    Balance in Excise Duty RG 23 C as on 31.03.2010 - Rs. 56931.62
3) Plant 3 - No upload balance. All the transactions are routed through J1IEX except 1 from FB01
    Balance as on 31.03.2010 - Cenvat On Hold A/c - Rs. 86876.06
                                                 ED RG 23C - NIL
Hence, would like to know -
1) Any separate procedure to take the credit of upload entries?
2) If the Balance in ED RG 23C A/c is NIL, will it affect on taking credit?
Thanks & Regards,
Reshma

Accounting Effect for Capital Goods Purchase

Hi,
Iam using SAP 8.8 PL 13. How does the accounting takes place in case of an Item marked as Fixed Asset in Item Master?
In GL account determination I have assigned Capital Cenvat Credit A/c. for Capital Goods on Hold A/c.
Suppose I purchase an Fixed Asset Item for Rs.10000/- from a Vendor who has also been assigned Asset A/c in BP Master. I have created separate tax code for capital goods. The tax code is BED 10 %.
In Incoming Excise Invoice I get the Following JE effect.
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Capital Cenvat Credit -                      Rs.10
Capital Cenvat on Education Cess    Rs.10
Capital Cenvat Credit                         Rs.5
Capital Cenvat Credit on HS Cess     Rs.5
Capital Cenvat Credit                         Rs.500
Capital Cenvat Credit                         Rs.500
Incoming Cenvat Clearing A/c                                    Rs.1030
Can somebody explain how this works?
Rgds
Kalli
Edited by: Kallicharan Nadar on Aug 30, 2010 11:22 AM

Hi Kalli,
In Administration-> Setup-> Financials-> G/L Account Determination-> Purchaseing Tab-> Tax Sub Tab-> "Capital Goods On Hold Percentage set" - 50 % and set GL in "Capital Goods On Hold Account" once you done these setting. When you are going to make Incoming Excise Invoice transaction that time system is booking 50% excise amount in current year and remaining 50 % will book in next year and same for Cess and ShCess.
Cenvat credit on capital goods is allowed only when it is received in the factory. However, only 50% of the credit may be availed in the financial year when the capital goods are received in the factory and the balance 50% may be availed in any subsequent financial year, provided the capital goods are in the possession of the manufacturer. The Cenvat Credit Rules, 2004, do not impose any condition upon the manufacturer to avail of the credit only when the capital goods are put to use on the commissioning of the plant.
Refer...
http://www.cbec.gov.in/excise/cx-rules-main.htm
Thanks
Sachin

Commercial rounding for capital goods

Commercial rounding off of all duties
All the Duties are rounded up in PO & MIGO with some routing development through ABAP.
Now client requirement is that in case of capital goods
1.     If suppose that in Capital Goods Cenvat is Rs. 45.00, in same year only 50% credit is available hence Rs. 22.50 i.e. after rounding off it is available to us 23.00 and in on hold account only Rs. 22.00 should be available, but present SAP system does not propose the same
2.     If Value of Secondary Education Cess is Rs.1/- for capital goods then credit available in current year should be Rs.1/- & on hold account it should be Zero
Business is saying that it is statutory requirement as per Govt. Notification
How much Govt is firm on this rule & how other companies are achieving this using SAP?
Another Question is that While reversing CENVAT credit taken for capital goods without rejecting material (Only Duty reversal because credit wrongly taken)
We have to pass Excise JV through J1iH & reverse 100 % duty. STD procedure is that   we have to transfer 50 % duty from Hold account to the RG23 C part 2 then reverse 100 % duty
But business is saying that it is wrong practice & against excise law .In this case how to handle CENVAT on Hold Account.
( I have Already used OB90 & routing Number 17 is working fine but not for above case )
Thanks
Edited by: sachin patil on Mar 10, 2009 7:00 AM

Dear sachin ,
As far as I see, there is no loss to the company,
1. you paid the vendor for the full excise amount
2. As a manufacturing unit you are liable to take 100% credit
3. IF you classify the material as capital goods as per your needs then take 50% now and 50% in next financial year
4. If Raw material take 100% credit
5. If the material has been mistakenly classified as C and first 50% credit availed, then to correct your operations you will have to take second 50% from J1IH then in that case you will have to clear all credit on hold from your original 50% credit entry & the J1IH entry, hence you will end up taking 100% credit.
In such conditions you can also opt for credit reversal through J1IH against the said part2 entry, & thenj create a fresh ID declaring material as raw material & take fresh 100% credit.Here also that second 50% from the on hold account would be required to be cleared.
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    "for capital items 50% of excise duty is available for credit immediately ,50% in next financial year ,some time credit can be taken in same year IF
1 P O RETURN FOR OF CAPITAL
2 STOCK TRANSFER TO ANOTHER PLANT"
CAN ANY BODY EXPLAIN ME ABOVE SENIRO WITH EXAMPLE
WITH REGARDS
HARDIK
Edited by: hardik_khandelwal on Sep 17, 2010 1:32 PM

Hi,
for capital items 50% of excise duty is available for credit immediately , 50% in next financial year ,some time credit can be taken in same year IF
1 P O RETURN FOR OF CAPITAL
2 STOCK TRANSFER TO ANOTHER PLANT"
During MIGO u2013 Part I Posting
S- Debit     KBS
H-Credit     WRX     PL-Vnd-Mtl
During Excise Posting- Part II
S- Debit     CENVAT OH
S- Debit     CENVAT on CG-SEC
S- Debit     CENVAT on CG-BED
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H-Credit     PL-Vnd-CENVAT
Transfer of credit for Capital Goods for next year u2013 J2I8
H-Credit     CENVAT OH
S- Debit S     CENVAT on CG-SEC
S- Debit S     CENVAT on CG-BED
S- Debit S     CENVAT on CG-ECS
Then you can send or sell the Asset in current finincial year but before that make sure that it has to retire in FI.

Cenvat on Capital Goods

Hi all,
Whenever credit on capital goods need to be availed, you can claim 50% of credit at the time of receipt by specifying ‘Yes’ in the ‘Claim CENVAT.
Now I want to know that where I have to setup / define the percentage of CENVAT credit the user wants to take immediately on PO receipt of the goods.
regards
Sanjay

Hi
I know the standard scenario for Excise and its related settings. Our system is also working absolutely fine for the 50% Cenvat credit utilization.
But the customer wants to have a process like that of as I had explained earlier.
Can you suggest whether it is possible.
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Chaps

Posting of cenvat credit of 50% on capital goods through T.Code:J1IH

Hi
Please advise me the procedure for posting of cenvat credit of 50% on capital goods through T.Code:J1IH.
As a matter of fact, when i tried to post the last year credit of 50% cenvat credit on capital goods the system accepting 50% only.
For example, last year we got Rs.200000 as cenvat credit and out of that 50% credit of Rs.100000 got availed last year. In this year when i tried to avail of remaining of Rs.100000 through transaction code J1IH system is accepting 50% of Rs.100000 i.e only Rs.50000 is accepting.
I look forward for your reply
Thanks and Best Regards
Shekhar
Edited by: Shekhar Yecham on Sep 16, 2008 8:54 PM

Hello,
The settings before 01.04.2010 were same. However, after thorough checking of the GL A/cs, I have following observations -
1) Plant 1 - Balance as on 31.03.2010 in Cenvat on Hold A/c -Rs. 195080. It is upload balance & t.code used is FBVB
    There are some more transctions in this A/c which are reversed due to wrong entries.
    Balance in Excise Duty RG 23 C as on 31.03.2010 - NIL
2) Plant 2 - Balance in Cenvat on Hold A/c as on 31.03.2010 is Rs. 166701. Again this is an upload balance with FBVB
    Balance in Excise Duty RG 23 C as on 31.03.2010 - Rs. 56931.62
3) Plant 3 - No upload balance. All the transactions are routed through J1IEX except 1 from FB01
    Balance as on 31.03.2010 - Cenvat On Hold A/c - Rs. 86876.06
                                                 ED RG 23C - NIL
Hence, would like to know -
1) Any separate procedure to take the credit of upload entries?
2) If the Balance in ED RG 23C A/c is NIL, will it affect on taking credit?
Thanks & Regards,
Reshma

100% cenvat on capital goods

Dear all,
How can 100% cenvat be availed in case of capital goods in case of transfer from one plant to another.
The T-code used is J1IH

Yes, this is std behaviour of the system,as per the law the AED will be allowed to take 100% credit in first finanacial year only.
For more information refer the below link.
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/808c60ca-013b-2c10-34a2-94d1eb442e6f?quicklink=index&overridelayout=true

Capital goods, during vendor return, Excise is getting post to RG23A instea

Hi SAP Guru,
I have very critical issue to be resolved immediately in the area of Excise for CAPITAL GOODS, please help! The things is....
1. At GR level using mvt 101, system is posting all BEDECSSECess to correct RG23C register, fine
Quality people have rejected goods, when Im trying to create vendor return delivery using......
1. GR (122) >J1IS>J1IV, using this process system is posting BED+ECS to RG23C but SECess to RG23A, I wanted to know why SECess is getting post in RG23A instead RG23C. plz suggest if any config. chages to be done.
Or
2. When I am trying GR (122) along with all Excise parameters using enjoy MIGO( Return Delivery), system is throwing error "RG23C-AT1 amount 1600.00 is greater than the available amount 0.00". When I checked the relevant register I found out enough balance.
Or
3. After GR (122), when Im using J1IH(JV) method, system is throwing error like " Balance in transaction currency 'Message no. F5702'.
Now plz suggest the correct answer!
Thanks & Regards
Manoj K Singh
+91 9777299580

Hi Gurus ,
I hope you must be doing greate, steps are as follow which i'm following for vendor return and subsequent delivery for capital goods.
1. PO -> MIGO (101) -> Excise capute & Posting using J1IEX -> MIRO.
For excise, part1 & 2 to relevent register posting has taken placed.
Now quality dept. has rejected the goods, for which vendor delivery should take place.
2. For Vendor return Delivery
MIGO 122 w.r.t GR of 101-> Excise capute & Posting using J1IS&V.
For excise, part1is getting created using J1IS, J1IV is creating part 2, in Acct. doc. RG23C BED/ECS/HEC is being Credit and "PLA On Hold" is being Debited for BED/ECS/HEC amount.
3. For Vendor subsequent delivery, I have done the excise config. for Movt. 123 .
MIGO 123 w.r.t. GR of 122.
While doing GR for 123, system is not generating Excise screen.
any way ,After GR of 123, I have Capture Excise Invoice after inputting all relevent data, but while Posting, System is generating message that Part 2 is does not exist for vendor excise invoice.
Now i thinks my requrement is visible for your understanding to suggest me some valuable idea to resolve this issue.
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Manoj K Singh

AED Posting for Capital Goods

Hi
For Capital Goods, excise availed will be 50% for this financial year and 50% for next financial year. Is it applicable for AED/CVD for imported goods also.
Rgds
Srini

Businesses are allowed to set off excise duty on purchases of capital goods against excise duty on outputs. However, unlike with raw materials, you can only set off half of the duty in the first year, and the rest in any year after that.
Prerequisites
In the material master, you have classified the capital goods as such.
Because duty on capital goods is handled using excise transaction type CAPE, you must also have specified that you want this transaction to credit the excise duty to the CENVAT on hold account. You make this setting in Customizing for Logistics u2013 General, by choosing Taxes on Goods Movements ® India ® Account Determination ® Specify Excise Accounts Per Excise Transaction.
You must then have specified which G/L account is the CENVAT on hold account, again in Customizing for Logistics u2013 General, by choosing Taxes on Goods Movements ® India ® Account Determination ® Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction.
Features
When you post an excise invoice that contains capital goods, the system posts half of the excise duty to your CENVAT account and posts the rest to a G/L account for CENVAT on hold.
In following years, you can use a report to identify the capital goods with excise duty on hold and transfer the duty to the CENVAT account (see Transfer of CENVAT Credit on Capital Goods).
Activities
When working with excise invoices that include capital goods, note the following:
Capturing vendor excise invoices
When you create an excise invoice with capital goods, you have to set the material type to A (assets), C (consumables), or T (tools).
Posting excise invoices
When you come to post the excise invoice, the system posts only half of the excise duty to the CENVAT account. The system does not round the amount off.
Transfer of CENVAT Credit on Capital Goods
You use this report to display a list of the vendor excise invoices where the vendor has levied excise duty but you have not posted it (in full) to your CENVAT account.
This is particularly useful in the case of capital goods, in order to find out how much credit remains from previous years.
Features
To access the report, from the SAP Easy Access screen, choose Indirect Taxes ® Procurement ® Excise Invoice ® Reports ® Balance Credit for Capital Goods.
Selection
On the selection screen, enter:
Organizational data
Data of the documents that you want
Output
The system displays a list of excise invoices with excise duty outstanding. It shows you:
The total amounts of the various types of excise duties levied on the excise invoice
How much duty has still to be posted to the CENVAT account
Select the excise invoices that you want and choose Transfer credit. If you want to transfer only a portion of the remaining amount, enter this amount as the amount to be credited.
The system creates an accounting document to post the duty to the CENVAT account and creates an entry in the Part II register.
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eswarmanu...

Excise is getting post to RG23A instead RG23C for capital goods return del

Hi SAP Guru,
I have very critical issue to be resolved emmediatly in the area of Excise for CAPITAL GOODS, please help! the things is....
1. At GR level using mvt 101, system is posting all BEDECSSECess to correct RG23C register, fine
Quality people has rejected goods,When i'm trying to create vendor return delivery using......
GR(122)>J1IS>J1IV,, useing this process system is posting BED+ECS to RG23C but SECess to RG23A, i wanted to know why SECess is getting post in RG23A instead RG23C. plz suggest if any config. chages to be done.
or
2. when i am trying GR(122) along with all Excise parameter, system is throwing error "RG23C-AT1 amount 1600.00 is greater than the available amount 0.00". when is checked the relevent register i found out enough balance.
or
3. After GR (122), when i'm using J1IH(JV) method, system is thowing error like " Balance in transaction currency 'Message no. F5702'.
Now plz suggest the correct answer!
Thanks & Regards
Manoj K Singh
+91 9940216442

Hi Datta, thanks for the reply
according to SAP Note 1062872 (2005B version) it reads as
"The excise register for excisable items of type raw materials/finished goods is currently set to RG32A Part I. When you create an out going excise invoice with these type of items, the accumulator for RG32A Part I will be increased."
I thought the same is applicable with SAP Business One 2007B version. However what you said might be correct. But the problem with one of my manufacturing client is whenever they raising an Outgoing Excise invoice they have registered numbers automatically be created on the pre printed invoice paper. where the invoice will be printed only with the qty, rate , price and register numbers rest of the information on the document is pre-printed. So they have a column called RG23C Part I / II where register numbers are automatically printed. But RG23C Part I & II are for "Capital Goods"
If I consider these manufactured items as "capital goods" then it will raise register numbers automatically. but this will not acceptable. correct me if i am wrong. so all of these items should be cosidered as Finished Goods in the item master data. if i do that again there is a conflict with their RG23C Part I / II on the pre-printed column and i wont be raising any register numbers.
Please update me on how should I deal with this issue
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