EXCISE ON CAPITAL GOODS

hi
"for capital items 50% of excise duty is available for credit immediately ,50% in next financial year ,some time credit can be taken in same year IF
1 P O RETURN FOR OF CAPITAL
2 STOCK TRANSFER TO ANOTHER PLANT"
CAN ANY BODY EXPLAIN ME ABOVE SENIRO WITH EXAMPLE
WITH REGARDS
HARDIK
Edited by: hardik_khandelwal on Sep 17, 2010 1:32 PM

Hi,
for capital items 50% of excise duty is available for credit immediately , 50% in next financial year ,some time credit can be taken in same year IF
1 P O RETURN FOR OF CAPITAL
2 STOCK TRANSFER TO ANOTHER PLANT"
During MIGO u2013 Part I Posting
S- Debit     KBS
H-Credit     WRX     PL-Vnd-Mtl
During Excise Posting- Part II
S- Debit     CENVAT OH
S- Debit     CENVAT on CG-SEC
S- Debit     CENVAT on CG-BED
S- Debit S     CENVAT on CG-ECS
H-Credit     PL-Vnd-CENVAT
Transfer of credit for Capital Goods for next year u2013 J2I8
H-Credit     CENVAT OH
S- Debit S     CENVAT on CG-SEC
S- Debit S     CENVAT on CG-BED
S- Debit S     CENVAT on CG-ECS
Then you can send or sell the Asset in current finincial year but before that make sure that it has to retire in FI.

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