B&W G3/450/built-in SCSI

I installed 10.3 on the original SCSI drives of two B&W towers. The install went smoothly, but on startup I now get the grey forbidden (circle w/slash) symbol. The firmware seems to be v1.1; I downloaded the v1.2 file and tried to install under 9.2.2, but the installer reported no device available to update. What do I need to do here to get this disk to run?
Also: I attached an 80GB ATA drive to one of these and installed 10.3.9; neither machine will recognize it as a startup disk, even with the PCI SCSI card removed. I'd like to swap out the 4 GB SCSI drive in one machine for this. Suggestions?

Sure, you can put that processor in a Beige. But it will run at the speed of your old processor until you change the speed jumpers on the board (and moving the jumper block from the Blue & White will not help, the pin assignments are different. check xlr8yourmac for jumper settings. I must warn you -- removing the sticker over them will VOID YOUR WARRANTY!
It has a larger Heatsink because it needs more heat dissipation. You will need to provide more heat dissipation by some method. There is not a lot of extra headroom in the desktop chassis, a bit more in the MiniTower, and Tons in the All-in-One.
Any memory issues from switching system bus?
Yes. the stock RAM memories from the beige are rated PC-66 (for a 66 MHz Bus). Speeding them up puts them out of spec. If they fail running faster, no one will be surprised. The RAM from the Blue & White is identical in every regard, except it is rated PC-100, so it can be run faster without penalty.
The Grackle memory controller is rated for 66 MHz, but your particular chip may run a little faster, or may not. It depends on your particular chip.
Most PCI cards get a little weird if you try to run them faster than the standard speed.

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