Background Rendering in FCP 10.2 is not working

Is anyone else having an issue with background rendering not working in the new FCP 10.2 version?
In fact even the render all function doesn't seem to be working properly since I upgraded. It only appears to be rendering small pieces at a time.
It won't render the whole project out like it's supposed too. Have to keep pressing the Control, Shift, R keys over and over to get it to completely render out the sequence.

Try turning off BG Rendering and turning it back on.
If you have multiple projects in a single library, try another existing project or create a test project; (add some clips with effects to get render bars). If they render, select the first project and choose Delete Computer Generated Project Files.
Russ

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