Basis - 2 System Landscape Possibility

We want to have only a 2 system landscape for our SAP deployment i.e. Within the development server, we shall have development client and quality client and then just have another production server.
Since we have confirmed that this is possible, please let me know the disadvantages in doing so and also if we need to anticipate for trouble shooting.
Thanks & regards,
Tommy.

Having QA "clients" is not possible because there are many things, that are cross client:
- ABAP (corrections)
- Data Dictionary
- Cross client customizing
Hence, you can't "test" those things, once you have an ABAP error in one client, you will the same in the other client too.
Markus

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we are trying to create a maintenace cycle with two systems.
We have a system defined as "Evaluation System" and the second is defined as "Production System".
Generally Question
Is it possible to create a maintenace cycle for a two-system-scenario?
Specific Question - Erorrs/Warnings
While checking the project we got several errors/problems:
1 Differences between BC Set SOLMAN40_CHARM_BASICFUNC_001 and database
2 Differences between BC Set SOLMAN40_SDESK_BASICFUNC_000 and database
3 No consolidation system found for EID-800 (project Z_CRM_T)
4 No track for project Z_CRM_T with log. system EID/800
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CTS
The transport system is configured correct - Check in STMS is OK
Question:
The comparison checks seem to be OK - is it necessary to reactivate the BC Sets?
Kind regards
Tom

Hi,
the system role for your client/systems in the logical component is very important:
- The development system needs to be defined as a Source System.
- If you don't have a QA, leave all target systems empty. If there are one or more consolidation/integration/regression systems, assign them to system role Target System.
- Your production system uses system role Production System.
The defined Development client needs a client dependent (TMS parameter CTC=1) consolidation track to the QA, or in a 2 Tier landscape to the production system. In a 3 Tier landscape you need a delivery track from QAS client to your production client. But as you wrote, TMS has been set up already. I just would like to mention all steps....
Check that all RFC connections have been set up correctly. Especially the Trusted RFC. Don't forget the Trusted RFC to client 000 ot the TMs domain controller.
In tab Systems ( transaction code SOLAR_PROJECT_ADMIN => System Landscape ):
Make sure you see all clients of your logical component. If not hit button System Role Assignment and add your System role.
Then still in the same tab: Hit button Shipment Routes and make sure, you see the complete transport track and only this track here!
After correct setup of TMS, RFCs, logical components and assignment of LC to your project:
First perform a Refresh and a Check in transaction code SOLAR_PROJECT_ADMIN => System Landscape => Change Requests. Then please recreate the maintenance cycle (and task list).
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CHaRM 2 system landscape possible??

Hi Solman experts,
I have a question. Is CHaRM possible in a 2 system landscape without creating extra clients? For example:
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>DWPRD100
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ricky

Hi Avinash,
But in TMS do you create one delivery transport route from dev100 to prod100 or do you create a consolidation route to prod100. Usually in a three system landscap you create 2 consolidation routes to the test system one with a transport layer that you created and one with the sap transport layer and then one delivery route to the production system.
Could you please explain what kind of transport route you create?
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Hello,
regarding our system landscape we have no clue how ChaRM will handle following situation
DEV-System: Development-System were the developments should be done.
QAS-System: Test-System were the tests should be done.
FNC-System: nothing to do here, just for functional tests
PRD-System: Production System
Transport routes are DEV -> transport group which deliveres QAS and FNC, and from QAS -> PRD.
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Hi
You have two options:
1) assign FNC to task list: you can start the import to this system in the task list manually
2) or task list without FNC: you can schedule a job 'import all' at FNC or import manually via STMS
Confiiguration:
1) One log. component with D-Q-FNC-P (Q and FNC are of role target systems)
2) One log. component with D-Q-P
regards
Andy

Is it possible to do portal content transports through System landscape?

Hello,
In order to transport content from portal A to portal B I am currently using transport packages: export the content from portal A, download it to the local PC and import it to portal B. The process is working OK but I still have a question:
SAP are transferring all the control on their systems to the System landscape, for example Java developments. My question is if it is also possible to make these transports through the system landscape so no local PCs are involved in the process?

Hi Roy,
You are right in the point that development projects can be transported, using the NWDI, centrally managed through the system landscape.
Nevertheless, the PCD transports (EPA) have to be touched manually anyhow. Theoretically, you can set up an SDA and put an EPA into it, see http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/a3/782240da03e569e10000000a155106/frameset.htm for details.
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can anyone tell me if it is possible to have 2 different system landscapes in one project. One landscape for developing and testing the Change Requests and another one for developing and testing the Bugfixes.
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As Rick, mentions, there's no default way.
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Doubts in System Landscape Directory

Hello All,
I got some basic doubts in SLD.
Why do we need to store the information about the installed products and to be installed products in software catalog?
And, what is this techncal system?
After reading few help sites, what I understand is the following:
For example SAP is a product and CRM etc are the software components. We create the technical system for this product like for client 100 we create a technical system and for client 200 we create another technical system. And we give some logical names, called business sytems, to these technical systems.
My second question is, why do we need to create all these information(the information in SLD)? Why cant we directly create messages types, message interfaces etc and configure them in Integration directory without using the information in SLD like business system?
In Integration Directory, we say that the sender is one Business System and receiver is another business system. These business system are created based on some technical systems. These technical systems are based on some software components and product. This product and the software component might be a installed or non installed product. Then how do we can get the connection between the sender and the business system? Can you please explain me the idea behind considering the sender and reciever as business systems.
Can anybody please clear the above doubts?
Priya

Hi Priya,
SLD:
The System Landscape Directory of SAP NetWeaver (SLD) serves as a central information repository for your system landscape. A system landscape consists of a number of hardware and software components that depend on each other with regard to installation, software updates, and demands on interfaces.
- so talking about the working of an SLD, here if any information is required for the integration server regarding the systems(logical or physical) and the software (installed products) it refers to the SLD.
- to tell you about the other features it has....it captures the dimensions of the system landscape like solution dimension, transport dimension and technical dimension.
- putting it in short XI IS A CLIENT OF SLD
Also go thru this link and understand more about SLD <a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/31/f0ff69551e4f259fdad799a229363e/frameset.htm">System Landscape Directory</a>

SOFTWARE CATALOG:
The SLD contains a Software Catalog of all installable SAP products and software components. The Software Catalog includes information about support packages and dependencies between the products and software components. This information is the basis for the description of the system landscape.
Also go thru this link and understand more about Software Catalog <a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/a2/2999ef97ea2b4790165f9ca5c05c41/content.htm">Software Catalog</a>
TECHNICAL SYSTEM, BUSINESS SYSTEMS, SOFTWARE PRODUCTS:
Technical system correlates the software to the physical host on which it is installed
Or in other words Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape.
- they are actually the basis for defining the business systems.
- we assign a technical system to a business system to help the SLD make the appropriate association.
- the software products used by the business system are got from the technical system definition.
- to note 1 technical system can have more than one business system assigned to it....and as told the SLD make the appropriate association between them.
Also go thru this link and understand more about each of it:
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/24/8fa93e08503614e10000000a114084/content.htm">Technical Systems</a>
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/42/c817d9d2296bb2e10000000a1553f6/content.htm">Business Systems</a>
<a href="/people/sap.india5/blog/2005/11/03/xi-software-logistics-1-sld-preparation Preparation</a>
Regards,
Abhy

Setting Up the System Landscape for ESS

Hello Experts,
I am implementing ESS in portal.
I am in step of defining systems in portal for ESS/MSS.
Below is link I am following from help.sap.com
[Link|http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/en/5b/76a6d7fd3a4e91bfb422405bf3e04d/frameset.htm]
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SAP_WebDynpro_XSS
SAP_ECC_HumanResources
SAP_ECC_Travel
SAP_ITS_XSS
SAP_BSP_EREC
Additionaly according to below Article in SDN :
[Link|http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/21eb036a-0a01-0010-25a3-b2224432640a?quicklink=index&overridelayout=true]
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Now the basis person in my project has handed over to me following systems :
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SAP_R3_Financials
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All the above names that you are referring to are not necessarily separate systems.
These are system aliases for a system object created in your portal via System Administration - System landscape.
So, if you have HR and Finance on the same backend server, then you need only one system with the related system aliases.
You will need SAP_BSP_EREC only if you are planning on using E-recruitment.
Similarly, you will need SAP_ITS_XSS only if you are planning on using any ITS applications.
It is pretty straight forward to change/correct the names of your system aliases instead of changing the usage of these aliases every where else.
SAP_ECC_HumanResources is absolutely necessary.
SAP_ECC_Travel is required if you are planning on using travel and expense related applications.
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Could not get system landscape directory client - NWDS 7.31 SP 09

Hi Experts,
We are unable to import development configurations from NWDI 7.4 to NWDS 7.31 for one of the developer's id. Other developers are able to import the
configuration successfully in NWDS and are able to create projects without any issues. In fact, I am able to import the development configurations from his Id on my machine.
The error message that is appearing is as follows: Could not get system landscape directory client.
PFB the NWDS logs:
null
Error
Tue Jan 06 12:48:58 IST 2015
List Development Configurations failed [Error: com.sap.ide.dii05.ui.internal.sld.SldContext Thread[ModalContext,6,main]]
com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.LcrException: com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.CIMClientException: HTTP response code: 407 (Proxy Authentication Required ( Forefront TMG requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy filter is denied. ))
at com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.HttpRequestSender.newClientException(HttpRequestSender.java:719)
at com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.HttpRequestSender.processResponse(HttpRequestSender.java:608)
at com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.HttpRequestSender.send(HttpRequestSender.java:352)
at com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.CIMOMClient.sendImpl(CIMOMClient.java:205)
at com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.CIMOMClient.send(CIMOMClient.java:153)
at com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.CIMOMClient.enumerateInstancesImpl(CIMOMClient.java:450)
at com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.CIMOMClient.enumerateInstances(CIMOMClient.java:754)
at com.sap.lcr.api.cimclient.CIMClient.enumerateInstances(CIMClient.java:989)
at com.sap.lcr.api.sapmodel.JavaCIMObjectAccessor.enumerateInstances(JavaCIMObjectAccessor.java:213)
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Error Screenshot -
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BR,
Anurag

Hi,
we had some issues recently with this, and the trace also mentions proxy issues. Could you please try direct connection in that preferences (in other words do not use proxy settings in NWDS) ?
Is it possible that there is some kind of web-filter application installed that is blocking the request?
I'd suggest to google for this error:
407 (Proxy Authentication Required ( Forefront TMG requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy filter is denied. ))
Perhaps the problem is not even sap related.
Is Microsoft Forefront TMG (Threat Management Gateway after some googleing) perhaps configured in the way that it is not allowing this request ? Perhaps the IT guys of your company could look into this.
Microsoft Forefront Threat Management Gateway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
12209 Forefront TMG requires authorization to fulfill the request. Access to the Web Proxy filter is denied.
Cheers,
Ervin

Warning: Problems occurred during synchronization of the system landscape

Hello
I have created systems in system landscape, TMS is working fine, all the configuration steps are completed successfully.
am working in Solution Manager 4, in project change -SOLAR_PROJECT_ADMIN - Project Administration - in 'System Landscape' tab  Change request and when I activate change request management I am getting following messages:
1. Warning: Problems occurred during synchronization of the system landscape
2. The project is not released. Hence cycle can not be created.
Its bit urgent as I m in middle of this activity, please assist me on the same
Thanks
Sharmishtha

Hello Jason & Prakhar
Thanks for your quick response. I am basis person, and configuring this change request management for one of the project.
Jason:
Will you please check with your basis person about these settings and let me know the same. I have set the settings as follows
C= Development (source system)
T = Quality
P = Production
Prakhar:
I have checked with all RFC connections are working fine, authorizations are also properly given.
I didnt get your point No correctly defined maintenance project exists, I have already created project in project administration transaction, assigned the system landscape, I have activated project IMG in IMG Project and then going in change request tab to activate the change request management, where its giving me above error.
More over, as you have mentioned I am getting following message in SLG1:
Project CHARM_GBW not found in the project administration table
This is asking me to do following things:
Synchronize the project in Change Manager with the Solution Manager. Call the Solution Manager with the transaction SOLAR_PROJECT_ADMIN, and go to the 'System Landscape' tab, and then the 'Project Cycle' tab. Select the 'Change Request Management' field, and choose 'Refresh'. Project CHARM_GBW should then be available.
Where do I have to make entry for this? I can see the entry in /TMWFLOW/PROJMAP table too. I dont know what more I need to do for this.
Problem is I cant see Project Cycle tab in System Landscape. Prakhar, frankly I am not able to find any step wise document on this part. So will you please help me with some documents on this? I am from technical side thus there is bit difficulty to understand this scenario from functional view.
I will be grateful for your help,
Thanks
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Client Roles in a Three System Landscape

I initially post this Question in other forum:
Hi all,
We have a three system landscape. In the Development client, we have the Customizing Client, the Sandbox Cliet and a Training client. I have some questions about this configuration:
Acording to System and Client Settings - System Administration Assistant (BC-RRR) - SAP Library, Training client must be in Quality Assurance System, and it must be created by client copy from client QTST (it gets the transports from Custimizing). In this Training System we must create users for all our key-users to training. We must not create any user for key-users in sandbox client (this client is for the DEV team). is that ok?
What are the downsides of having out TRAINING client in the Development System?
Now, a consultant is asking me to open some modifications in the TRAINING client: He needs to load Exchange rates (OB08) in that client, but he is getting "Client is not modifiable". They are asking me to create users for key-users in the sandbox client and the training client.
I need to know if they are using the system in the right way. I dont want the system to become a mess.
I been reading this notes: SAP Note 356483. I don´t know what this means: "Now the corresponding Customizing object is no longer subject to the transport connection and is excluded from the changeability check. The change is active in all clients of the system. You can also change the Customizing object in a locked client (independent of the client role). However, now it is also no longer possible to manually transport entries of the view or table."
Aditional notes:
SAP Note 78329, sap kb 356483
Thanks for your help!
One person answere me this:
Hi
You should create your question in the appropriate area :
Software Logistics
The drawback of having training client in dev system is that it could be negatively impacted by ongoing changes performed in that system (custom program that are changed, not working...)
Some specific customizing changes can be set as current setting and thus can be modified without needing to open customizing but only if the client is set as productive.
There is also a way do deactivate modification recording of objects (aka deactivating the transport connection) but, if you apply this change for this activity/object, you won't be able any more to record change into transport orders
Regards
356483 - Customizing: Current settings in the test system
77430 - Customizing: Current settings

Hi Andres
I do not really now the exact impact, it might prevent some business data from being mass processed or overwritten...
I did had to deactivate the transport connection on specific objects/activities for some customers.
It depends on the frequency of that activity. I don't like to open the client to modification as you can sometime forget to close it back, and sometime also it gave the opportunity to other consultants to make changes that would create inconsistency among envt in the whole landscape.
At least activating the recording of changes could help in tracking the source of modifications
RZ10 => rec/client=ALL
STMS => RECCLIENT=ALL
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