Batch determination & ATP

Folks,
I have the following scenario:
Some customers accept batch with SLED > 365 days, some customers only accept batches that have SLED > 730 days and some have a variable (60% SLED). We can have this setup in batch determination with the use of selection class and criteria. However, ATP does not take this into account.
I.e.:
Stock - 10 PCE's batch A (SLED 01.01.2011) and 10 PCE's batch B (SLED 01.01.2012).
Customer A only accepts batch with SLED > 730 days. Customer orders 20 PCE's and ATP confirms 20 PCE's as there are 20 PCE's on stock.
Delivery creation for 20 PCE's but batch determination only determines batch B and thus only 10 PCE's have a batch (batch B). Batch A does not get determined.
Is there a possibility to have ATP already take the values from the selection class into account during ATP check in the sales order? Does anyone might have an alternative solution?
MZ

Hi,
ATP Check based on sertain criteria's which you speciefied in checking rule,there is no any option to check stock as per SLED.
When you create sales order system will display all stock that is 20, not as per the SLED.
Kapil

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one of our customers just upgraded to ECC605 and now batch determination changed its behavior:
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I have am stuck with a very strange scenario and need your help to sort this out please
In the process orders I have set auto-batch determination on release and in the checking rule I have excluded the quality inspection lot.
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Presumably, this availability check is run when order is status CRTD. Please check if the same checking rule has been applied to "Creation" & "Release" in OPJK. If not, check the differences between these checking rules in OVZ9.
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Unfortunately, I cannot access OSS note. If you can, try to use search term Batch Determination Infinite Quantity.
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Hello gurus, I have looked around to find a solution to why the system picks the wrong batch. We have a material that is batch managed and condition managed, so a B batch ends up in unrestricted use, and a R batch ends up in Restricted Use. The ATP check is set up so it only will see the unrestricted batches. And when I look in the delivery and checks the availability there it says I have 9 psc og B batch availible. This is correct, but when I create the following TO, it picks a R batch, probably because this is the oldest quant. How can i make this work? Is there any way to trigger ATP check at the creation of TO in transaction LT03?
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Batch determination in sales orders

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I have 2 questions related to batch handling in sales:
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2. If I do batch determination in sales order, how do I make sure that the specific batch is there for delivery? In the ATP there is no such filed to include or exclude batches for a material, so I wonder - how is the batch reserved when entering it in the sales order? Please describe the reservation mechanisms if any.
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Lars Tornblom,
1. Can anyone list the pros and cons of having batch determination done in the sales order instead of at the time of delivery creation?
We Can proceed with Batch Determination at sales order there is nothing wrong in it. The Batch that you determine at the order level remains the same in delivery. The batch gets copied in the delivery level.
1. You cannot change the Batches at Delivery level.
2. Batch Split is not possible at Order level. (Since BAtch split CHSP is available only at Delivery level)
2. If I do batch determination in sales order, how do I make sure that the specific batch is there for delivery?
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We activate the Batch Management Indicator in The Material master - Sales: General data View. and proceed with Batch configuration in Logistics General. The Batch concept is managed by three modules MM,SD and PP. So its an integration point.
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If no Batches are aintained and you are trying to enter batch in sales order it will throw an error stating "No Batches Maintained".
If Batches are there for the material then it will be assigned. If batches are not existing then it will throw an error as explained above.
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Edited by: véronique pinelli on Feb 14, 2011 10:59 AM

Dear all,
The batch determination is automatic at the sales order level.
If a sales order is not confirmed, is it possible to run the backorder program to check the availbalitiy, confirm the quantity, and determine the batch number ?
I tried to do it but only the ATP is done and the quantity is confirmed. The batch is not determined.
Thanks
Kind regards
Véronique
Edited by: véronique pinelli on Feb 14, 2011 10:59 AM

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II. If I enter C1 and stock some 15kg then also it automatically determining storage location as W02. Actually it belongs to storage location W03 it should be the same W03.
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Hi,
I am encountering a strange issue during component batch determination of process order.
1. During creation of process order, when I execute batch determination, systems does determination based on strategies we have set and when I click on Copy it gives an error
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Batch determination -sort rule -reg

hi,
requirement is :
Through COR2 , for the process order's component when batch determination is done , Batch determination should first select for the unrestricted stock in the storage location and once all the unrestricted stock is consumed then only batch determination should happen from the stock of the batches of the consignment stock in the storage location.
With in the stock of the storage location ... first it should check for unrestricted stock -with in unrestricted it should sort based on GR date of the batch and consume the oldest batch.Once all unrestricted is consumed then only it should look for consignment stock consumption , again based on the Gr date and consume the oldest batch with in the consignment .
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Hi Freinds,
Scenario is as follows:
Batch determination is already active with FIFO logic. There are 2 types of stock ( Own unrestricted and consignment)with batches in same storage location.
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Is there any way I could pull in the special stock indicator keeping the FIFO logic same in batch determination.
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