Batch Exist - Split Valuation

Hi,
I would like to change 1 material to split valuation but this particular material already had some movement with batches.
When this material is changed via MM02, there is an error message that batch already exist.
However, the stock and batches are removed now but the error still exists.
If i reversed all material documents and intialised this material stock again.
Will it be able to change the valuation category?
Thanks in advance for all your help.

Sally Teo,
You have to archive batch master records to be able to carry out the change.
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/eb/650362e5a511d285ed0000e82013e8/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/8d/3e59fd462a11d189000000e8323d3a/frameset.htm
remark:
This topic has been discussed in this forum already, please search before asking.
Regards,
Csaba

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